Comments on: The language standard is dropping around here http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/ Reality-based commentary on politics and policy in Massachusetts and around the nation Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: sabutai http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46256 sabutai Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46256 <p>...that you only say that because you supported Deval in the primary.  If you were for Gabrieli or Reilly -- or are anything less than enamored with Deval right now -- you learned long ago what can be said round these parts.</p> …that you only say that because you supported Deval in the primary.  If you were for Gabrieli or Reilly — or are anything less than enamored with Deval right now — you learned long ago what can be said round these parts.

]]> By: stomv http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46257 stomv Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46257 <p>over time around here, no question about that.  I just happened to notice multiple potty words in a short span yesterday, and when I looked further, found some more.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> This is not to say I don't curse -- I do all the time, far too often.  But, when you write you have a bit more control, and so exercising that control is something I hope we try to do around here.</p> over time around here, no question about that.  I just happened to notice multiple potty words in a short span yesterday, and when I looked further, found some more.

<

p>
This is not to say I don’t curse — I do all the time, far too often.  But, when you write you have a bit more control, and so exercising that control is something I hope we try to do around here.

]]> By: sabutai http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46258 sabutai Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46258 <p>I give most everyone a pass yesterday -- that's why I didnt write anything.  If my right to marry were being beaten back with a combination of bigotry and sneaky parliamentary tactics, I'd be slingin' around the profanity, too.  To start with.  So no harm there.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> I just hope passions have cooled, and that nobody was driven into the arms of the other side by said attitude.</p> I give most everyone a pass yesterday — that’s why I didnt write anything.  If my right to marry were being beaten back with a combination of bigotry and sneaky parliamentary tactics, I’d be slingin’ around the profanity, too.  To start with.  So no harm there.

<

p>
I just hope passions have cooled, and that nobody was driven into the arms of the other side by said attitude.

]]> By: peter-porcupine http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46259 peter-porcupine Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46259 <p>I had one fellow comment poster dancing on the tables a little early, and warned her - Abuse of process will happen to YOU someday.  The second vote began right in the middle of her nyah-nyah.  After that, she used a few explatives, but I really didn't blame her.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> By and large, BMG is the most civil and intelligent forum around.  Even when Dan Kennedy gets mad!  ;~)</p> I had one fellow comment poster dancing on the tables a little early, and warned her – Abuse of process will happen to YOU someday.  The second vote began right in the middle of her nyah-nyah.  After that, she used a few explatives, but I really didn’t blame her.

<

p>
By and large, BMG is the most civil and intelligent forum around.  Even when Dan Kennedy gets mad!  ;~)

]]> By: karen http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46260 karen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46260 <p>I apologize if I went too, well, "blue," as it were. I had, if not a good night's sleep, at least some sleep, and feel a lot more able to try to use my good words, rather than my bad ones.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> Um, stomv, does "Suck an egg" count as a dropped standard?  ;-)</p> <p><</p> <p>p></p> I apologize if I went too, well, “blue,” as it were. I had, if not a good night’s sleep, at least some sleep, and feel a lot more able to try to use my good words, rather than my bad ones.

<

p>
Um, stomv, does “Suck an egg” count as a dropped standard?  ;-)

<

p>

]]> By: johnk http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46261 johnk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46261 <p>on that one.  There are some mother-in-law qualities about him that got under my skin.  Still no excuse.  I think people should get a pass over the past few days though.</p> on that one.  There are some mother-in-law qualities about him that got under my skin.  Still no excuse.  I think people should get a pass over the past few days though.

]]> By: bob-neer http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46262 bob-neer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46262 <p>No personal attacks; we encourage everyone to use their real names. See our <a href="http://www.bluemassgroup.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2304" rel="nofollow">Rules of the Road</a> for a more detailed statement.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> Onward and upward.</p> No personal attacks; we encourage everyone to use their real names. See our Rules of the Road for a more detailed statement.

<

p>
Onward and upward.

]]> By: eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46263 eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46263 <p>Now grow up</p> Now grow up

]]> By: stomv http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46264 stomv Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46264 <p>And the answer is no.  At least, that's my answer.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> It is, however, the response that prompted me to make this posting.  I, however, did delete what I initially wrote, which was chock full of ugly words.</p> And the answer is no.  At least, that’s my answer.

<

p>
It is, however, the response that prompted me to make this posting.  I, however, did delete what I initially wrote, which was chock full of ugly words.

]]> By: kbusch http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46265 kbusch Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46265 <p>I dislike bad grammar much more than I dislike reading f-bombs, but worse still, I think, are dismissive comments. Dismissive comments consistently lower the level of discourse.</p> I dislike bad grammar much more than I dislike reading f-bombs, but worse still, I think, are dismissive comments. Dismissive comments consistently lower the level of discourse.

]]> By: goldsteingonewild http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46266 goldsteingonewild Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46266 <blockquote> Commander-in-Chief George Washington issued numerous military orders during the American Revolution that first prohibited swearing and then ordered an attendance on Divine worship, thus relating the prohibition against profanity to a religious duty.  </blockquote>

Commander-in-Chief George Washington issued numerous military orders during the American Revolution that first prohibited swearing and then ordered an attendance on Divine worship, thus relating the prohibition against profanity to a religious duty. 

]]> By: stomv http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46267 stomv Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46267 <p>one man's f-bomb is another man's f-bomb.  One man's dismissive comment is another man's insightful claim.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> It's easy to use a thesaurus.</p> one man’s f-bomb is another man’s f-bomb.  One man’s dismissive comment is another man’s insightful claim.

<

p>
It’s easy to use a thesaurus.

]]> By: laurel http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46268 laurel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46268 <p>how was that for dismissive? ;)  i tend to agree with you.  dismissive comments undermine the whole agreement to discourse.  potty mouth just adds flavor, sometimes putrid, but still the conversation continues.</p> how was that for dismissive? ;)   i tend to agree with you.  dismissive comments undermine the whole agreement to discourse.  potty mouth just adds flavor, sometimes putrid, but still the conversation continues.

]]> By: kbusch http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46269 kbusch Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46269 <p>but those coital words just do not have the same congressional flavor an actual f-bomb does. Using the thesaurus to replace words from American English's colorful and rhythmic vernacular reminds me of those people who don't cook so well, who believe the secret to cooking well lies in adding the right spices.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> Of course the <a href="http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Rude Pundit</a> has a remarkable style I wouldn't want to imitate -- or read daily, but the style of Duncan Black (aka Atrios) at <a href="http://atrios.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Eschaton</a> has an appealing and insightful directness to it. I've learned a lot from him. We could use more writers with his insight and quick wit. Key to that style is a comfort with four letter words you'd find abhorrent.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> Me? I most often write in a reflective style, but I wouldn't want to read that all day. Yawn!</p> but those coital words just do not have the same congressional flavor an actual f-bomb does. Using the thesaurus to replace words from American English’s colorful and rhythmic vernacular reminds me of those people who don’t cook so well, who believe the secret to cooking well lies in adding the right spices.

<

p>
Of course the Rude Pundit has a remarkable style I wouldn’t want to imitate — or read daily, but the style of Duncan Black (aka Atrios) at Eschaton has an appealing and insightful directness to it. I’ve learned a lot from him. We could use more writers with his insight and quick wit. Key to that style is a comfort with four letter words you’d find abhorrent.

<

p>
Me? I most often write in a reflective style, but I wouldn’t want to read that all day. Yawn!

]]> By: susan-m http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46270 susan-m Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46270 <p>with a well made point, than language that would be up to "standard" (whatever the hell that means) that makes no point whatsoever.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> BTW -  have you met many of the LeftyBloggers in-person?  I've not met any that used "disguised curses", indeed they just come right out with it.  Not a huge deal.  We all have our way of expressing ourselves.  That makes people interesting.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> I would not like to see people censor themselves here to come up to someone's arbitrary "standard." Those who are offended so easily are free to disregard the comment, or the commentor. </p> with a well made point, than language that would be up to “standard” (whatever the hell that means) that makes no point whatsoever.

<

p>
BTW -  have you met many of the LeftyBloggers in-person?  I’ve not met any that used “disguised curses”, indeed they just come right out with it.  Not a huge deal.  We all have our way of expressing ourselves.  That makes people interesting.

<

p>
I would not like to see people censor themselves here to come up to someone’s arbitrary “standard.” Those who are offended so easily are free to disregard the comment, or the commentor. 

]]> By: stomv http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46271 stomv Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46271 <p>particularly with writing, "salty" language can be avoided with precisely the same point made nearly all of the time.</p> <p><</p> <p>p> In fact, BMG is a good example of that.  Before the ConCon explosion, the quality of dialog was high and the so-called saltiness low.  In the past week, the language got much worse -- but did the content get <i>better</i>?  I think not, but you are free to judge for yourself.</p> particularly with writing, “salty” language can be avoided with precisely the same point made nearly all of the time.

<

p>
In fact, BMG is a good example of that.  Before the ConCon explosion, the quality of dialog was high and the so-called saltiness low.  In the past week, the language got much worse — but did the content get better?  I think not, but you are free to judge for yourself.

]]> By: laurel http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46272 laurel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46272 <p>and that is why you hadn't noticed this sort of language before.  or, perhaps you weren't part of previous angry discussions.  i think as we move on together (and i see no divisive issues on the near horizon) to tackle the next set of problems and deadlines, this issue will take care of itself.  as you say, the level of discourse here is high.  i take that to be the 'norm' to which people will return.</p> and that is why you hadn’t noticed this sort of language before.  or, perhaps you weren’t part of previous angry discussions.  i think as we move on together (and i see no divisive issues on the near horizon) to tackle the next set of problems and deadlines, this issue will take care of itself.  as you say, the level of discourse here is high.  i take that to be the ‘norm’ to which people will return.

]]> By: jarstar http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46273 jarstar Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46273 <p>but as Lewis Black said "There are no bad words. There are words used by adults to express anger, outrage and frustration so they don't pick up a tire iron and beat somebody to death." And after this week's ConCon there have definitely been moments when cursing has beaten (no pun intended) Black's stated alternative.</p> but as Lewis Black said “There are no bad words. There are words used by adults to express anger, outrage and frustration so they don’t pick up a tire iron and beat somebody to death.” And after this week’s ConCon there have definitely been moments when cursing has beaten (no pun intended) Black’s stated alternative.

]]> By: rollbiz http://bluemassgroup.com/2007/01/the-language-standard-is-dropping-around-here/#comment-46274 rollbiz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.bluemassgroup.com/diary/5795/#comment-46274 <p>I don't personally have nearly as much of a problem with bad language as I do with bad grammar or spelling or bad writing in general. I'd imagine that has an awful lot to do with my style of blogging and other non-professional writing I do...</p> <p><</p> <p>p> So if I offended anyone in the heated debates of the last few days, (I know I dropped some MF'in F-bombs) I apologize. </p> I don’t personally have nearly as much of a problem with bad language as I do with bad grammar or spelling or bad writing in general. I’d imagine that has an awful lot to do with my style of blogging and other non-professional writing I do…

<

p>
So if I offended anyone in the heated debates of the last few days, (I know I dropped some MF’in F-bombs) I apologize. 

]]>