Sexual Hypocrisy: A Republican Retrospective, 2nd Edition

Welcome back!  This is the 2nd edition of Sexual Hypocrisy: A Republican Retrospective.  The first volume can be found here.

What this diary is about:

This diary is intended to shed light on the sexual hypocrisy indulged in by the GOP and it’s elected officeholders.  The GOP claims to be the “Party of Family Values”, but so many of it’s members are themselves devoid of family values.  The GOP panders to fundamentalist Christian morality, but so many of it’s members are incapable of living that morality.  Look below the fold to see just a few of the GOP’s finest who have been caught having sex with or imposing sex on people other than their spouses.  These people have made careers out of enforcing heterosexuality and the image of the nuclear family.  But by their “Do as I say, not as I do” behavior, we know them to be the hypocrites and deceivers they really are.

What’s new in the 2nd Edition:

Nine more Republican Sexual Hypocrites have been added to the list.  They are: Burton, Chenoweth, Florey, Hyde, Klaudt, Krull, Murphy, Sweeney and Thurmond.  I have also highlighted key terms in red so that readers can know the Republican Sexual Hypocrite’s legal status.

This edition’s featured guest is…below the fold!

This edition’s featured guest is…John Sweeney!  John Sweeney (R-NY) is a former Congressman. He pleaded guilty this week to aggravated DWI. After side-swiping a police car, police pulled him over and were surprised to find a 24-year old woman sitting on his lap in the driver’s seat.  His blood alcohol level was 0.18 (legal limit 0.08).  He is the former STOP-DWI coordinator for Rensselaer Co.  He lost his Congressional seat last November to a Democrat amid allegations of spousal abuse. He’s also on the hot seat for taking a trip with Jack Abramoff to the Mariana Islands and forgetting to report it.  This is a House ethics violation.  Thanks John for participating in the GOP Family Values charade!

  • Aiken, Steve (R), AZ Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed minister.  CONVICTED of having sex with two underage girls.

  • Allen, Bob (R-Merritt Island), FL State Rep. CONVICTED for soliciting payed sex in a public bathroom.  Pleaded for clemency and was sentenced to 6 months probation; paying a $250 fine, court costs and $245 restitution to Titusville Police Department; ordered to undergo testing for HIV and other STDs, complete a class in HIV awareness and to stay away from the park where he was arrested.  He will resign his FL state house seat.
  • Barter, Merrill (R-Boothbay Harbor). County Commissioner.  PLEADED GUILTY to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
  • Bena, Parker (R), Republican activist PLEADED GUILTY to possession of child porn.  CONVICTED.  Sentenced to 30 months in federal prison & fined $18,000.
  • Burton, Dan (R-IN) Rep. Fathered a child out of wedlock yet had the gumption to call Bill Clinton “scumbag”.
  • Butler, John  (R), Republican activist working for gubernatorial hopeful Jim Ryan (R-IL).  Charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl (a relative of his). Received pardons from Gov. George Ryan (R) in previous year for burglary convictions.
  • Chenoweth, Helen (R-ID) ID rep who had sexcapades out of wedlock with many, lied about it, then chastised Bill Clinton for getting a blow job.
  • Craig, Larry (R-ID), US Senator PLEADED GUILTY to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge associated with soliciting sex in a public bathroom.  At least 8 men have come forward saying he had sex with or propositioned them. [LR note: I believe him when he says he's not gay, because he doesn't live in the gay culture.  But have you noticed that he never denies being bi- or homosexual?]
  • Curtis, Richard (R-LaCenter), WA State Rep.  Anti-gay legislator and habitual procurer of male prostitutes.  Taxpayers subsidized the trip during which his sexual hypocrisy was exposed.
  • Dasen, Richard, Sr. (R), Benefactor of conservative Christian groups.  CONVICTEDCONVICTED of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen (62, married, has several grandchildren), allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
  • DiFatta, Joey (R-St Bernard Parish), Parish Councilmember and senatorial candidate solicits sex in public bathrooms.
  • Elizondo, Nicholas (R), Director of the “Young Republican Federation”.  Molested his 6-year old daughter.  CONVICTED and sentenced to six years in prison.
  • Florey, Michael (R) Fmr head of the MI Federation of Young Republicans. PLEADED GUILTY and CONVICTED for sexual battery on a 22 yr old drunk female colleague.  He “violently forced several sex acts upon her”, then he & friends from MiFYR ran a smear campaign against her in retaliation for her speaking up. Gets 5 years in prison and must pay her medical expenses.
  • Foley, Mark (R-FL), US Rep. who dabbled in the drawers of young congressional aides.  Also was chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.
  • Gardner, Jack W. (R) Lancaster County, PA Councilman and former US Marine.  CONVICTED of molesting a 13-year old girl.
  • Gardner, Richard (R) NV Assembly candidate PLEADED GUILTY to sexually molesting his two daughters.  He didn’t think this should disqualify him from running for office on the GOP ticket.
  • Gingrich, Newt (R), Fmr Speaker of the House.  Serial adulterer.
  • Giuliani, Rudolph (R), Fmr Mayor of NYC.  Serial adulterer.
  • Gonzales, Ralph, FL GOP political consultant dead in murder/suicide love triangle tragedy.
  • Grunseth, Jon (R), Businessman who withdrew his candidacy for MN governor after allegations that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
  • Haggard, Ted (R), Fmr President of National Association of Evangelicals and anti-gay, anti-drug megachurch minister.  Used crystal meth while having sexcapades with a prostitute.
  • Harris, Mark (R), West Bend, WI Alderman.&
    nbsp; Described as a “good military man” and “church goer”.  CONVICTED for repeatedly raping an 11-year-old girl over a 2-3 yr period. Sentenced to 12 years in prison and 18 yrs probation.

  • Harding, Russell (R), President of NYC Housing Development Corp and ex-Giuliani official. PLEADED GUILTY to possessing child pornography on his computer.
  • Hyde, Henry (R-IL), Rep., adulterer, family-wrecker.
  • Klaudt, Ted (R-Walker), Fmr SD state rep.  CONVICTED for raping his two foster daughters.  Rapes happened while he was state rep.  Told the girls he was determining whether they were healthy enough to sell their eggs to infertile couples.  Used coercion to touch their breasts and put his fingers and a vibrator into their vaginas.  He faces additional charges of rape, other sex offenses, witness tampering and stalking in Corson County, where he lives. Faces 100 yr sentence.
  • Krull, Jeff (R-Mascotte), Mayor of Moscotte, FL.  Arrested on six counts of lewd and lascivious molestation and one count of showing lewd and lascivious material to a minor.
  • McCain, John (R-AZ), US Senator and Serial adulterer.
  • McHenry, Patrick  (R-NC10), NC State Rep. purchased house with man in one district, claiming district homestead tax deduction.  but voted in another district.
  • Murphy, Glenn, Jr. (R), Chairman of the Clark Co., IN Republican Party.  Charged with Class B Felony for performing oral sex on a sleeping man.  Faces 20 years in prison. Court documents show that Murphy asked the victim not to file a complaint with police and offered to help with school expenses in exchange for his silence.
  • Privette, Coy (R), NC Cabarras County Commissioner & retired Baptist minister.  PLEADED GUILTY to six misdemeanor counts of aiding and abetting prostitution.
  • Roberts, Richard & Lindsay (R), Oral Roberts University president & wife, numerous charges including trysts with underage male(s). Richard Roberts received vote of no confidence by ORU faculty.
  • Schwarz, Larry Jack (R-Wetmore) Fmr CO State Rep. and parole board officer.  Fired for possessing child pornography. Now works for hardcore porn company, Platinum X Pictures. PXP also employs his wife & fmr porn star Debbie, and his daughter, porn actress, Jewel De Nyle (Stephany Schwarz), star of “Pink Hotel on Butt Row,” “Face Down, Ass Up 2,” “Sodomania Slop Shots 10,” and most recently “The Black Bastard 12.”
  • Smeltzer, Fred, Jr. (R-Wrightsville), Fmr  Wrightsville councilman pleadd no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl.  CONVICTED.  Served 6-months in prison.
  • Sweeney, John (R-NY), Fmr Congressman. PLEADED GUILTY to aggravated DWI. After side-swiping a police car, police pulled him over and were surprised to find a 24-year old woman sitting on his lap in the driver’s seat.  His Blood alcohol level was 0.18 (legal limit 0.08).  He is fmr STOP-DWI coordinator for Rensselaer Co., and lost his seat Nov., 2006 to a Dem. amid allegations of spousal abuse. Took trip to Marianas with Jack Abramoff and forgot to report it, which is a House ethics violation.
  • Thurmond, Strom (R-SC) The famously racist segregationist Senator impregnated a 16-year old African American maid.  He never publicly acknowledged his resultant daughter, Essie Mae Washington-Williams.
  • Vanderwall, Robin (R) Republican strategist, Citadel Military College graduate and Regent University law student.  CONVICTED on 5 counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
  • Vitter, Dave (R-LA), US Senator and habitual procurer of prostitutes.  Likes to wear diapers.
  • West, Jim (R), Fmr Mayor of Spokane, WA, used work computer and promise of jobs to lure in young men.

  • National GOP, which knew about Craig’s penchant for toe tapping and Foley’s pursuit of congressinal interns.  What other sexual hypocrisies by other members that they are aware of one can only imagine.

    Many others listed at Republican Family Values (Thx KBusch!), Republican Sex Scandals and Armchair Subversive  I’ll incorporate them as time permits.

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    1. Impressive quantity of links and research

    2. Your task, should you wish to accept it, is... find the web page on, I believe it was DKos, that  went on for more than a few printed pages of Republican defalcations.  Including those at the state and local level.  Your list doesn't even scratch the surface.

    3. Routine Top Ten List

      1. Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation.

      9. Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990.

      8. Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank's residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.

      7. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.

      6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election-before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

      5. Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.

      4. Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.

      3. Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.

      2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

      1. Sen. Ted Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.  Among other colorful incidents over the years.

      We won't even mention the serial Adulterer in Chief.

      Laurel - what is your point?

      • Aside from the fact that Ms. Porc can't get some of her facts straight....

        ...apparently she is also unable to recognize that the point is that while some Dems do "it" to, unlike the Republicans the Dems don't claim to be the party of famb'ly values.

        Regarding getting her facts straight, Barney Frank's censure was not for hiring a male prostitute (and it is undisputed that Frank was unaware that Gobe was running a prostitution ring out of Frank's home).  No, Frank's censure was for attempting to fix parking tickets using his congressional stationary.  That is hardly a sexual issue.

        • Ms Porcupine is also is threadbare on convictions

          but heavy on allegations.  whereas you will note that the list of Republican Sexual Hypocrites above is loaded with actual, documented guilty pleas and convictions.

          Porcupine, can you dig up a reputable citation saying that Frank was involved in prostitution?  No, I thought not.  Saying so doesn't make it so, even though you give it the ole' GOoPer try.

        • Of Course, having your boyfriend running a prostitution/call boy ring out of your domecile is not sexual. It is business!

          Just as Exxon Corp is not in the oil industry. They are in the energy exchange business.

          Wasn't what gerry Studds doing RAPE? Sodomizing a fifteen year old is what? A advance course in sex ed?

          Gary Condit. Believe he was a democrat. He was remotely involved with a young woman who was becoming troublesome for him. Then, mysteriously, she disappeared. Unfortunately for Mr. Condit her remains were found.

          Then we have Mass. Rep Kujowski. Urinating, literally of a female state police officers boots.

          Mass state se. Vinnie Piro. Did a little time in the can for, amongst many things:theft.

          Come to think of it. the last several or many of the last house speakers in MA are convicted felons.

          Then we have the "pillar of the community", William Bulger and his "conflicted" brother.

          Patches Kennedy who engaged is some kind of a sexual assault on his female passenger aboard his boat and then told her to swim home.

          Mr. Smith goes to Washington: The unconvicted Kennedy Florida rapist. 

          And then their is Ted. We all know what Ted is.

          Then we have Ted's nephew. The Cohasset rapist.

          And Ted's other nephew Joe, the congressman who allegedly used his wife as a punching bag and then ran to the cardinal to annul his marriage.

          Don't forget Alcee Hastings.

          But, some or a few Democrats and progressives don't claim to be saints, so why try. They revel and extol the inevitability of immoral and unethical behavior. It's all relative. One mans sodomy is just another mans "good time" No point in trying to set the good example. No hypocrisy in the democratic camp. Just ask Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. Just another example of pillars of the community. 

          • Long rant, no information, and thank you for showing us yet again what the terminally stupid believe...

  , explain it to me YET AGAIN that everyone knows everything that goes on in one's household.  For all one knows, your live-in sex partner may have other sex partners in while you are gone to Iraq, or to wherever you claim to have been employed.  Aside that explain it to me YET AGAIN why, if there was evidence that Frank knew that Gobe was running a call-boy (telephone, you know) network out of his abode that the House would not have censured him for that.

            Irrelevant.  Your fevered brow can believe what it wants to believe, for all I care.  The only thing that Frank was repremanded for was for trying to fix some parking tickets using his congressional stationary.  Hiring a male prostitute?  No.  His live in prostitute running a ring?  No.  None of that.  Just for the parking tickets.

            BTW, Barney is so well liked in his district that he will be re-elected until the day he chooses to retire, whether or not you approve.

      • Hipocrisy

        One of the red-faced folk takes this line every time this issue comes up.

        I can only conclude that hypocrisy does not register with you folks. Morality is just another talking point, I guess, to be deployed (or not) as useful.

        Kind of explains why Romney is doing so well.

        • if hypocrasy is the issue

          Take rudy off that list.  I have NEVER heard him claim to have moral authority over anyone or anything.  Usually, it's the opposite.

          • Fair enough

          • If Rudy had stayed a Democrat...

            ...which he was in the 1970s, you might have a point.  But he switched his party affiliation to the "famb'ly values" Republican party shortly after St. Ronald, he of Reagan, was elected president.

            Rudy's presence on the list is well earned.

          • Umm...

            Take rudy off that list.  I have NEVER heard him claim to have moral authority over anyone or anything.  Usually, it's the opposite.

            That's not true at all.  Certainly with respect to art and his views on pornography (which he's now trying to use to appeal to Southern Christians.

        • Abosolutely RIGHT

          It's time for Republican perverts to step up and be proud of their misbehavior - just like their Democrat-pervert counterparts.

          • They're listening to you

            Larry Craig seems dang proud of himself, and refuses to leave the Senate just for soliciting gay sex in a public setting.  You really should let him know of your feelings and encourage him to run for re-election.

            sabutai   @   Tue 4 Dec 7:00 PM
            • Why would I do that?

              In my entire adult life, I have only TWICE voted a pervert into office. When it became obvious that he was a degenerate, unworthy of the public trust, I never voted for him again.

      • BTW, regarding Gerry Studds...

        ...I'm sure that you know that you are playing fast and loose with the facts.

        Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.

        I'll presume that you are not a lawyer and therefore are unlikely to be able to state the facts clearly and completely.  Studds was censured in 1983 for an incident that occurred in 1973.  The reason that he was censured in 1983 is because it is highly unlikely that the evenly-divided House Ethics Committee would have investigated Representative Dan Crane (R-IL) for having had a sexual relationship with a female page for at least one incident that happened a short time before, without concurrently investigating a Democrat.  And Studds was chosen to be the sacrificial lamb.

        BTW, the Studds incident was inappropriate, but the page was not underage.  The age of consent in DC was and remains 16 and the page was older than that--he was 17 at the time.  Studds stood himself for re-election in 1983 (actually 1984), and won.  Crane put himself up for re-election and lost.  It really is as simple as that.  Robert Bauman lost.  Foley resigned, although he seems to be resurrecting himself.

        • If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck---then it's a duck.

          Gerry Studds is what he is. All the talk and nonsense in this end of the galaxy will not change that. The voters in MA who re elected Studds are what they are as well. Speaks volumes about humanity doesn't it. People sell themselves pretty cheap. Reminds me of the people watching the young woman being murdered years ago in NYC and no one called the cops. Many witnesses, then no witnesses.

          • Poor dear...

            ...apparently you are unable to understand that the voters in Studds's district did not agree with you.

            Apparently the putative believers in democracy, believe in democracy as long as they get the outcome they might hope for.  Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

      • give it up, willya,?

        You're losing this argument. If you can't see that, maybe you shouldn't be arguing at all...

        The difference between your list and Laurels list is a crucial distinction between imperfect people who claim to be perfect and imperfect people who never made such claims.

        Your list may well be made of an inglorious array of sexually deviant Dems but that's not the point.  None of them are hypocrites, or worse.

        I say 'worse' because, while the charge of 'hypocrisy' is often true, it's much much deeper than that: Specifically, it's a pathology. As such, it's much much more damaging, and much much more dangerous.  I watched the Matt Lauer interview with Senator Craig.  The GOP has freaked my out many a time, but I've never been so freaked out as when I saw that interview: either he's the best liar in the world or he truly believes his own words.  At least as far as Sen. Craig is concerned, the charge of hypocrisy doesn't stick.  He actually truly believes that he's not gay.  It may be the first recorded case of psychotic homosexuality. As such, the man is a danger to the values he trumpets: he's at war with himself and there's no telling which side is gonna win...

          The stunning thing, out of many stunning things, is that it is most clearly a danger to you and to the values you profess more than to anyone else.  Why should I care? I didn't vote for him. I don't defend him.

        Yet, you defend him...  ? 

        I mean, if you're a conservative, I'm assuming it's because you support the values he claims to support and agree with this voting record. OK. But that's not how he lives his life, izzit? Can you trust him to be stable, when he's so obviously awash in a more-or-less constant state of cognitive dissonance?  Of course, you can always dismiss me as a crank and say that Sen Craigs mental health is good, if not better, than mine.  Fine.  In that case, how can you trust him to push your values with any energy when he's so obviously committed to a lifestyle completely not in keeping with the conservative agenda... Either he's a loon, and not stable, or he's crazy like a fox and why should you trust him? 

        I have actually voted for Ted Kennedy and Gerry Studds. I did so in full knowledge of what they've done and - now here's the important part - I never expected it to change the way they conduct business in the Congress.  Because I agree with their votes. But if I thought they were beginning to get holier-than-thou, I'd not vote for them. It's that simple.  If I thought they they'd turn some holier-than-thou attitude into legislation, then I'd be really upset. If they tried to tell me who I can and can't sleep with, I'd actively campaign against them.

        And if the entire Democratic party started supporting the 'holier-than-thou' agenda,  I WOULD STOP BEING A DEMOCRAT.  Why are you still a Republican? 

        • You appear to misunderstand...

          I mean, if you're a conservative...

          Ms. Porc is not a conservative.  She's a Republican party apparatchick.  As should be obvious, Republicans are not conservatives.  She is probably paid based on party performance (i.e., elections), and ideology be damned.  All of her posturing here is in furtherance of her party, not conservatism.

          • Mm... apparatchick... yummy word...

            Ms. Porc is not a conservative.  She's a Republican party apparatchick.  As should be obvious, Republicans are not conservatives.  She is probably paid based on party performance (i.e., elections), and ideology be damned.  All of her posturing here is in furtherance of her party, not conservatism.

            Apparently, "apparatchik" is Soviet-era Russian word that -loosely translated-  describes the moral and intellectual space between 'cognitive dissonance' and 'prison bitch'.  Gotta hand it to them Rooskies, they knew their way around their language.

            • I actually do know how to spell it properly, but...

              ...Ms. Porc has been identified as a Ms.  Hence my intentional misspelling.

              • Where so identified other than by you? I had assumed it was part of your gender confusion.

                • Oh, so now you are finally telling me that...

                  ...commenters at Ryan's web site were lying, when they told me in a comment that you were a female?  And you did not pipe up to suggest otherwise?

                  Just how many people are hiding behind your Porc screen name?

                • by yourself, in fact

                  you wrote up a diary about yourself on rmg, all excited about a lyceum debate that you were involved in.  did you think that you could publish your involvement in a public event on the www and people not be able to easily see who you are and what sex you appear to be?  gimme a break!

                • $quot;your gender confusion$quot;

                  i find this a fascinating attempted swipe.  peter generally hides her trans- and homophobias pretty well.  but by stating that raj, who we all know is a gay man, is gender confused betrays her willingness to conflate sexual orientation and gender identity in the classic, most nasty gop faux christian style.  she really does betray her biases* with this one.  sadly ironic, coming from a woman who chooses a male public identity.

                  two demerits and a time out for ms. peter.

                  *although, we don't know if these biases are personal or professional.

                  • Laurel, it seriously isn't that complicated...

                    ...and you are reading too much into Ms. Porc's response.

                    There is a principle in rules of evidence that, if a person would be expected to deny an assertion, that that person has essentially admitted the assertion.  There were several times over at Ryan's web site (which Ms. Porc frequents) in which Ms. Porc was identified as being a female Republican apparatchick.  As far as I can tell, the poster never denied it.  I've been referring to this commenter here as Ms. Porc, in the female sense, and s/he hasn't attempted to correct me. 

                    As far as I'm concerned, that is sufficient evidence that the commenter is a Ms.

                    Just to let you know, I would have no problem referring to Porc as Mr. Porc.  Or as just "Porc."  The implication is the same: she, he or it is in favor of government spending, as long as it subsidizes the Republican constituencies.

                    • That doesn't seem fair to me...

                      Not denying something doesn't make it true.  On a blog, where there are multiple threads happening at the same time and things fall off the same page, it'd be impossible to manage all the implications.

                      Find evidence where PP called PP a female, on this site or otherwise.  Short of that, you're either making claims not based on fact or unnecessarily violating her clear request at privacy by using a om de plume.

                      • Never correct

                        I make a point of never correcting people who misguess my gender. That way I continue to sound like the Medium Lobster of Fafblog, far and above this imminent world of gender.

                      • After you have gone to law school and taken a course in evidence...

                        ...I'll sit up and listen.  Failure to deny under a circumstance under which one would be expected to deny is tantamount to an admission of the truth of the assertion.  She tends to troll around Ryan's web site, which is where I was informed that Ms. Porc was a female.  If she was not, it strikes me that she would have corrected the commenter; I saw no such correction.

                        If if makes you happy, I'll just refer to her as "Porc."

                      • BTW, I hope you know that $quot;Peter Porcupine$quot; was the pseudonym for a British flake (n/t)

                  • Arsenic and Old Lace...

                    ... is oddlly apropos some 60+ years on.. But that was a more innocent time, when insanity was fun!

                    Reverend Harper: Have you ever tried to persuade him that he wasn't Teddy Roosevelt?

                    Abby Brewster: Oh, no.

                    Martha Brewster: Oh, he's so happy being Teddy Roosevelt.

                    Abby Brewster: Oh... Do you remember, Martha, once, a long time ago, we thought if he'd be George Washington, it would be a change for him, and we suggested it.

                    Martha Brewster: And do you know what happened? He just stayed under his bed for days and wouldn't be anybody.

        • You gotta be shit'n me. Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are not hypocrites? The very pillars and foundation of the democratic party.

          The guy who was observed carrying the Bible as often as possible. Serial assaulter of women. It is people who defend these two of the most disreputable people in America who are the hypocrites.

          • Proverbs 25:11 - 12

            The guy who was observed carrying the Bible as often as possible.

            Is that the same Bible fulla stories about serial adulterers, murderers, incest and lies amongst stories about other sins and sinners?

            Just checking...

            Ya know, I wouldn't be party to this argument if I didn't believe in the Bible and what it has to say about sin and redemption, amongst other insight about human nature. I'd just chuckle to myself about the hypocrisy and pathology of the Republicans and not  think about it again...  But I do believe that Republicans can be redeemed... Indeed, I think it's our only hope.

      • BTW, Ms. Porc, I find your rant regarding

        Former Rep. Wayne Hays...

        ...quite amusing.  Apparently you are unaware of the fact the Elizabeth Ray, the supposedly unqualified secretary who said that she couldn't type or file (heck, any numbskull could do those things) didn't say those things until after Hays decided to marry another woman.

        Apparently you are unaware of the aphorism that goes something to the effect that hate hath no fury like a maiden scorned.

        • On the contrary - and I enjoyed her book, 'The Washington Fringe Benefit'.

          • So, let me understand this...

   actually wish to believe what has been published in a "tell all" book supposedly written by someone who has been paid to "tell all."  And, after she had been a "maiden scorned."

            Um, OK.  You have even less credibility than I have heretofore given you credit for.

            NB: lest anyone wonder, "maiden scorned" is, to me, sexless.  William Mark Felt, Deep Throst, of Watergate fame, was also a "maiden scorned": passed over for an FBI position that he believed should have been his.  Felt got his revenge. 

            And so, apparently, did Elizabeth Ray in regards Hays.  It really doesn't matter whether anything that she wrote had anything to do with reality; the only thing that mattered was that is was published, and some people believe that, just because something is on the printed page, that it has something to do with reality.

      • And, just to note...

        The first time the word "accuse" or "accusation" appears in this entire diary is with Ms Porc and her list of dirty Dems, relying heavily, as it does, on the fact that some Dems were 'accused', but apparently never convicted.  This is in stark contrast to the list compiled by Laurel, which contains "CONVICTED" and "PLEADED GUILTY".

        If we opened the floor to accusations as well as the proven facts then we'd have to pay Laurel a full time salary to compile the list of Republicans accused of similar deeds.

      • RE: PP's list

        Interesting list Peter.

        Now can we see a top ten list of Dem sex escapades since I graduated high school - in 1996! (I'll spot you Bill Clinton. ) I mean I am sooo enraged about Wayne Hays'  before-I-was-conceived hiring a hooker/secretary and Savage's 1989 fondling.

        Funny thing is, you can't put together a Dem top 10 list with anything more current than +10 years ago, but we can put together a Repub top 10 of the last 1 year!

        I mean if we're going to drag up ancient history, on what side of the aisle did the slave-raper Thomas Jefferson sit? Let's through him on the list because he's as relevant to the conversation as Studds, Hays, and Richmond.

        • Not a fair Challenge

          Democrat perverts aren't considered newsworthy, so PP would have to waste an inordinately greater amount of time to google an equally vacuous list.

          • Your planet doesn't have cable?

          • That's what the Rushs and the Howies are for

            And Fox Propaganda News.

            Not to mention, if Chuck Schumer tried to blow a guy in a men's room or if kucinich got caught with a hooker, we'd here about it.  Perhaps PP could enlist the help of a goggle monkey if the challenge is beyond the scope of his capabilities?

            Or perhaps the Republicans run up the sex scandal tally like Tom Brady throws TD passes.

            • If Schumer was doing it in at least one county in FL

              Not to mention, if Chuck Schumer tried to blow a guy in a men's room...we'd hear about it.

              we actually just might hear about it.  Via Pam's House Blend today http://www.pamshouse... 

    4. Have we mentioned...

      ...Jeb Bush's wife, who, a few years ago, tried to smuggle in many thousands of dollars in clothing that she acquired during a European shopping trip, without paying import duty?  Fortunately, she was caught by customs agents at the airport.

      • Columba Bush

        Apparently Columba Bush tried to smuggle in  $19,000 worth of clothing and jewelry she bought on a shopping spree in Paris.  She had to pay a fine that amounted to 3 times the duty she would have had to have paid if she had just been honest.

        Thx for the memories, raj!

        • Glad to be of service...

 struck me as odd that Republicans love to have other people pay their taxes, but not they themselves.


    5. Impressive, BUT shoot the messenger not the message. Will you be doing the same for democrats?

      You can start with Bill Clinton. You know, the guy who was always walking around carrying a bible---between trying to forcibly rape or coerce women into sexual acts.

      Does being penetrated by a cigar constitute rape?

      • please read

        the discussion above before asking questions already answered many times over.  thanks.

      • If you're not going to do your homework...

        ... then you risk being made to look a fool, as well as being proven wrong.

      • I run the risk of being banned, but...

        ...this lil' faggot doesn't see much difference between a cigar and a "marital aid."

        Although I did find Kenny Starr's soft-core porn book somewhat amusing after it came out in 1998.  Too bad he couldn't have copyrighted it: if he could have, he would be a multi-millionaire.

        Is your comment supposed to mean something?  Other than that you might have been indulging in to much--um--adult beverages this morning?

    6. So Laurel - your thesis persists in being...

      ...that Republicans deserve extra scorn because they endorse morality and values, while Democrats deserve no censure because they do not give a goddamn about these thingss?

      I'm sorry - I respect the Democratic Party more than that.  Althoguht that may be a bona fide part of the Progressive agenda.

      • Ms. Porc, please stop embarrassing yourself...

        ...apparently you are unable to find a dictionary definition or other usage for "hypocrisy."  Your willingness to change the subject is amusing.

      • I'm sorry...

        but someone, somewhere in your party has to come up with a better reaction to this than "huh?  I don't get what all those words mean"

        What is the GOP paying all those people to do, exactly?

        sabutai   @   Tue 4 Dec 7:00 PM
      • Yeah, just exactly that way...

        ...except that it's not.


        So Laurel - your thesis persists in being...  (0.00 / 0)
        ...that Republicans deserve extra scorn because they endorse morality and values, while Democrats deserve no censure because they do not give a goddamn about these thingss?

        Barry Bonds deserves extra scorn because he wants to be judged by the rules and standards of the game while reaching outside the game to get some help*.  Other players don't do that. Is it fair to say they 'do not give a goddamn about these things'  Hmmnn ... ?

        I betcha there's a lot of torn up Barry Bonds posters n playing cards littering the landfills of America today that weren't there yesterday... 

        C'mon Porc, make that move: tear up your vintage "Bedtime for Bonzo" poster! It'll be cathartic!  Rid yourself of that Grover Norquist Decoder Ring, before it galls you no end! Think how cleansed you'll be! Think how free! Tear off the yoke of servitude and be master of your own domain yet again!

        Go on. Do it.  I know you're sitting in your  study (the one with the fake, but suitably dark) mahogany panelling staring at that autographed picture of Dan Quayle... thinking to yourself... 'If only..."  Do it.  Smash that picture. Say to Dan "I REBUKE THEE!"

        C'mon Porc, we're rooting for you!! 

        ... Um... just outta curiosity... you don't own firearms do ya??

        *assuming, for the sake of this argument, that he is guilty...

      • Morality and OTHER PEOPLE'S morality

        Progressives most definitely espouse a morality: we are all in it together; we have a moral duty to one another as a society; we require a compassionate government that keeps us safe and protects our freedom.

        Social conservatives seem to have a morality with large doses of blaming others. Those others, those gays, should stop. Those others, those sexually active, unmarried women, should stop. They don't recognize systemic racism but they're happy to blame everything on others' culture. Others, others, others, and not holy us.

        Craig's case  reminds us that they're happy to blame others even when they're secret members of the Others Club.

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