The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, who care about health care, report:
Six critical pieces of health care reform go into effect tomorrow. For clients in new plans there will no longer be lifetime caps on the cost of services, there will be new ways to appeal insurance decisions, and insurance companies and issuers must offer preventive care. In addition, all group and individual insurance plans can no longer have annual caps on services, young people can stay on the insurance plans of their parents or guardians through age 25, and children can no longer be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions.
Scott Brown and other Republicans, however, would presumably prefer that lifetime caps remain, no new appeals are possible, insurance companies need not offer preventive care, young people not be allowed to remain on their parents’ plans, and denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions for children be permitted. Someone remind me how that is an appealing position, again?
Discuss
19 Comments . Leave a comment below.I thought those were also no longer a bar to coverage.
January 1, 2014 is the date for pre-existing conditions in adults. Kids with pre-existing conditions is tomorrow.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/P...
Republicans want an outright repeal of health care reform, which would repeal all of the things Bob mentioned. Nothing presumed about it; it's a fact.
I do wish the Democrats (including you) would stop lying misstating about what the Republicans will do if they take back control. They will not be outlawing abortion, restoring slavery... privatizing Social Security, or "outright" repealing the Obamacare bill. They do want to change aspects of the bill which they don't like but I have never heard anyone say they want to cancel the entire reform. Many Republicans supported aspects of the healthcare reform but were against it in totality (as were the majority of Americans... so much for representing the will of the people).
How does this hyperbole become a fact?
See here.
here
Whether it is "reform and replace" or defund parts of it... the point is there are parts of the bill which everyone supports an Republicans are willing to leave alone (or fund).
The possibility of the entire bill being killed is small. The whole defunding approach has problems as well but I think they can definitely make an impact on portions,possibly the mandate.
Time will show that changing the bill vs killing the bill is what we/they/"the people" want.
Actually, the real phrase they are using are "repeal and replace."
What does that mean? It's not complicated. It means repealing the health care law (exactly like I said above) and replacing it with a Republican alternative.
So how was I "lying" again?
.
But I still think it is disingenuous to say they are repealing healthcare reform which makes it sound like they are repealing the bill and then doing nothing. Maybe a better and more accurate word is "replacing".
is "repeal", which is why I said it. There's nothing disingenuous about it. Sure, they want to "replace" it with their own "plan" (which I don't think is much of a plan at all, but that's besides the point).
If "repeal" sounds too much like implying that Republicans want to do nothing, then maybe the party bigwigs should have thought of that before they called for "repealing" the law.
That pledge is decidedly un-nuanced. In reality, they won't have the votes to achieve this promise, but it certainly is a promise.
It seems a little absurd to call it unfair to challenge a campaign promise because, well, we know that campaign promises are BS.
If Obama has shown anything it is that no candidate's campaign promises can be trusted. I personally would like to hold "all" candidates to "all" their campaign promises regardless of party affiliation. Why should they be allowed to say whatever they want and then skate away. Would you want a relationship with someone who treated you that way?
So buyer beware. All of them. Obama is, I think, better than most. I viewed the major issues as:
1. Health Care Reform. Mostly kept, in that he got what he could, which is more than our former senior Senator could say, even after championing the issue for decades on end.
2. Out of Iraq. Kept, in my view. Yes, I know about the advisors. I think that the people pissed about the advisors always heard what they wanted to hear, not what he said.
3. More Emphasis on Afghanistan. Kept, again to the dismay of those who heard what they wanted, instead of what was said.
4. End of torture. Kept. It might be nice to expose and maybe prosecute some of the abuses from 2003-2008, but I can understand how it is hard to fight fire with gasoline.
5. End of Fake "Supplemental Budgets" to conceal budget problems. Kept. And gets pounded for it, because honest budgets show how bad the budget is.
6. Immigration Reform. Broken. Foolish to promise such a total non-starter.
7. Climate Change. Broken, though I blame an inept Congress for that. They even had Lindsay Graham providing cover, and dropped it in favor of immigration reform, which never had a chance, which suggests that Dems in Congess had, and have, zero intention of moving on this, ever.
(ugly, ain't it)
P.S. Whether or not they will, they sure are campaigning on a whole host of things you wrote that they won't do.
You want hyperbole? How about insinuating that I said that Republicans will "restore slavery" if they take back control? What a very strange thing to say.
In any case, I'd love for you to explain to me why my stating that Republicans want to repeal the health care is "lying" or a "misstatement." Have you read the Republican's latest "Pledge to America"? They explicitly say they want to repeal the health care bill.
It seems that you're misinformed about what your own party wants to do if they regain power. Perhaps if you listen to them about their actual plans, you'll reconsider your vote.
Do you see healthcare mentioned here?
right on page 27, what does it say? It's even in ALL CAPS!
"OUR PLAN TO REPEAL THE JOB KILLING HEALTH CARE LAW AND PUT IN PLACE REAL REFORM". Then the very next heading is: "Repeal the Costly Health Care Takeover of 2010."
Sounds like I wasn't lying about the Republicans wanting to repeal the health care law, huh?
I stand corrected. I'm wrong and won't try to explain. I'm wrong.
« Blue Mass Group Front Page
Wed 22 May 3:54 PM