What does it take to get the Globe to write a retraction? God knows. And so does former Liberian dictator Charles Taylor.
Check this out. The Globe apologizes for taking a small piece of information and drawing unsubstantiated conclusions. On threat of law suit, which still may come, they broke down their malfeasance and shined a light on how they operate. Take a fact and draw unsubstantiated conclusions that eventually become embedded in the collective psyche as fact.
It took a third world thug to call them on it. Well, we should all call them on it. Below the retraction they state:
The Globe welcomes information about errors that call for corrections. Information may be sent tocomments@globe.com or left in a message at 617-929-8230. A listing of other Globe contacts can be found on Page B2.
How embarrassing for not just The Globe but also for our city which must take the good with the bad when it comes to provincial pride. So yeah our team is in the Super Bowl but our newspaper is currently the laughing stock of the international press corps. and their bosses.
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I’m beginning to see a Romney presidency. Who would you rather answer the phone at 2:00 a.m.? Mitt or Newt? Right, Mitt, a no-brainer.
Who would they average American want answering the phone at 2:00 a.m.? Obama or Mitt? Well I’m seeing the pendulum swing towards Mitt. Those two a.m. call are not just defense related. Right now we are in an economic crisis where the president is expected to make serious choices resulting in success. Mitt beats the President on that one in the minds of too many Americans.
But then again, don’t forget the anti-Mormon vote. Will the evangelicals blank it?
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Is Steve Grossman fanning the Tim Murray fire at the Globe? He so wants to be governor so taking out Murray is big. The Lt. Gov. can do more favors than the treasurer so he can build a good organization. Grossman is making a name for himself by allowing debit card purchases of lottery tickets.
His knocking of the legislature for not consulting him before a bill was filed was very off-off-off Broadway. Not only did it show a lack of understand the system it highlighted his lack of political skills.
Question, since when does the state treasurer’s job description include being the state’s gambling cheerleader? That’s all we seem to hear come out that office since the lottery began in the early 70s.
Suzanne Bump, a real lightweight, wants to be governor also. But really, do you think she has the brains to manipulate the Globe. Actually it more like using the Globe and letting the Globe use her.
Because whoever is pushing and feeding this has to tow the line or payback will be a bitch.
Martha? Sure she’s a sneaky ultra-ambitious coldhearted politician, but the Globe won’t be helping her out.
Soi, if you believe like me it’s from the Democratic side than Grossman is the prime suspect.
hlpeary says
Eb3: hit the nail on the head…How the Globe sells papers: “Take a fact and draw unsubstantiated conclusions that eventually become embedded in the collective psyche as fact. It took a third world thug to call them on it. Well, we should all call them on it.”
Couldn’t agree with this more. Following the Globe coverage of Lt. Gov. Murray’s car accident and the Globe’s full-court press to make it something it wasn’t and then try to link it to a Housing Authority slug is a perfect example of what they are doing…with phony facts and innuendo from unattributed sources…sloppy journalism at best; dangerous, character assassination at worst.
As for Grossman and the other lusting guv-wannabees, their staffs and paid consultants, rest assured they are working overtime to push Murray off the stage..truth will not be a barrier to their efforts. I never had a great opinion of Bump but I have lost my good opinion of Grossman…would never support either one of them again for anything. Shame on both of them.
HeartlandDem says
hlpeary, thank you for saving me the time to put my thoughts into words….succinctly nonetheless.
Mark L. Bail says
A little premature there, Ern.
Obama is up in the polls, Romney is down. The only people that want Romney are the business class. They got the dough, but they ain’t got the re-mi.
It’s way too early to count out Obama.
Christopher says
…I have no idea where you get whatever you have to back up your speculations. For example, how do you know that Grossman is fanning the flames over Tim Murray? I realize you’re hardly the only one to use a pseudonym here, but I’d be better able to judge your credibility if I knew who you were.
HeartlandDem says
The beauty of Eb3’s, aka Ernie’s posts is the poetry. Prose is only a means to an outcome, which is this case…………..is Art.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
Thy am the wind that blows from the sea carrying seeds of truth.
Thy am the seagull poop that fertilizes thou seeds.
Thy am the the dingle berries that grow from the seeds of truth that were fertilized by thou seagull poop.
Thy am the wombat that feeds on the dingle berries that grow from the seeds of truth that were fertilized by thou seagull poop.
Thy am the highway worker that scraped from the road the wombat that feeds on the dingle berries that grew from the seeds of truth that were fertilized by thou seagull poop.
Now you know christopher, now you know.
HeartlandDem says
there we have it.
Poetry by eb3….brilliant, grandiose and absolutely imbued with humor and wit.
Eb3 returns down-thread to spank out some prose for those without an inclination toward the non-mundane.
bob-gardner says
” taking a small piece of information and drawing unsubstantiated conclusions”. The should do it the EB3 way and take nothing at all and draw unsubstantiated conclusions from that, like with EB3’s speculation about Steve Grossman and Tim Murray. And they should do it anonymously.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
Okay, let me again explain to you the difference between me and the Boston Globe.
In this case I summarized the current list of potential democrats seeking the governor’s office in 2014. I used the Globe’s over-the-top exploitation of Tim Murray’s misfortunes and who, if anyone, was pushing the story as the vehicle to critique the list of names.
It is made clear in the post that this is pure speculation.
The Globe however is a self-professes first class paper and reported something as fact although they had inadequate to evidence. They did not report it as speculation.
bob-gardner says
explain it to your buddy hlpeary, who seems to have swallowed your “pure speculation” whole and not only fell for it, but is ready to condemn both Grossman and Bump (” Shame on both of them”) based on no facts at all from an anonymous source.
Make it clear to hlpeary (and heartlanddem) that you are making things up. I already know the difference between you and the Globe.
hlpeary says
Don’t need eb3 to tell me that something has been amiss on this barrage of stories in the Globe coverage of a car accident on icy pavement and then the super stretch attempts to link that to a slug from a housing authority who went rogue on more candidates than murray over 30 years of playing the system. When I read stories in any paper that are stuffed with one innuendo after another delivered by anonymous sources, I am always very suspect.
Treasurer Grossman’s pontificating about higher standards on Greater Boston was self serving at best, nasty at worst. The Governor was so much more the stand up guy when he appeared and answered the same question on Rooney’s show this week. Grossman slyly fed the flames, Patrick directly promoted common sense: big difference between these two.
As for Auditor Bump, she reported out an audit that asserted McLaughlin was doing an excellent job at the Housing Authority. So I don’t think she is eager to be personally quoted in all of this but she has a paid political consultant who has been in the thick of the stories both as a named and unnamed source.
We Dems have been amused to watch the GOP circular firing squad as their presidential candidates have damaged each other both on and off screen. We should not be so smug as to think Dems don’t participate in the same behavior.
long2024 says
I will agree with you that the crash and the McLaughlin story really seem to be two separate things.
But the rest of this post is ridiculous. The Globe has investigative reporters so they don’t have to rely on politicians diming each other out. In what way did Grossman fan the flames? If the Globe’s coverage of Murray is as unethical as you claim, maybe he meant the Globe needed higher standards. The Probation indictments were supposed to come out this week. Maybe he meant those. You’re just as bad as the Globe.
As for the housing authority audit, that was done by DeNucci”s people, signed by Bump 12 days into her term. We’ve covered that before, in response to one of Ernie’s sexist rants. What was the new Auditor supposed to do, come in and start every audit from scratch?
hlpeary says
long: you said, “The Globe has investigative reporters so they don’t have to rely on politicians diming each other out.”…I am saving this quote as the funniest thing I have read in maybe a decade…Murphy and Estes, etal. would have nothing to write if they couldn’t count on politicians and their staffs dime-ing out other people!
BTW: All of greater Boston programs can be viewed on Emily Rooney’s website…judge for yourself on Grossman. As for Bump, here’s some advice: never sign anything you haven’t read and understand…when you put your signature on an official document, you are claiming it is from you…sloppy work can get you in trouble.
long2024 says
I don’t see the Grossman episode on the website. Why don’t you give me a link and a quote? If you’re going to accuse Grossman of being behind the story, it’s up to you to show some evidence of that. Otherwise, the accusations against Murray are a lot better substantiated than yours.
And you didn’t answer my question on Bump. It wasn’t rhetorical. Do you expect a new Auditor to start every audit over again and waste millions of taxpayer dollars? Your response is the same as that of Republicans who claim Obama was responsible for the economic collapse because the economy hasn’t fully recovered under him. Unless you had some evidence that the CHA was being run poorly, you can’t blame Bump for assuming Joe DeNucci had done his job. And if you did have that kind of evidence at the time, why were you covering up for McLaughlin?
merrimackguy says
Nor do I believe a politician, particularly the decent and honorable Tim Murray, would either.
AmberPaw says
Adoption of Iris http://masscases.com/cases/app/43/43massappct95.html See pages 105-106.
I oughta know. I wrote the brief and did the oral argument.
bob-gardner says
I don’t know which is worse, his predatory targeting of debit cards–so that someone with a gambling problem can empty his or her bank account on any visit to the corner store–or the slippery way he defended that policy in the same segment of Greater Boston.
I can’t agree that his remarks on Tim Murray are any big deal. Certainly they are no indication of a grand conspiracy involving the Globe.
Has anyone actually followed the articles that the Globe published on McLaughlin? There are serious charges in these articles and real victims–tenants who lost their homes and employees who were shaken down.
But to read some of the comments on this and other recent threads you would think that none of this matters–that the only thing that counts is that Tim Murray is protected from his own bad judgement. When he connected himself to a thug like McLaughlin he was, knowingly or not, stacking the deck against McLaughlin’s (alleged) victims.
merrimackguy says
Do you disagree with that?
hlpeary says
Merriguy: I think Murray said on tv that he knew McLaughlin on 2 levels…McLaughlin was a Housing Authority Director and Murray was assigned by the Gov. to deal with Housing and Homelessness issue, so he clearly had multiple contacts with Housing Directors all over the state, including McLaughlin since the Patrick-Murray Adm. took office. Murray also said he knew McLaughlin because Boston Councilor Murphy introduced McLaughlin to him when Murray was campaigning for delegates in 2006, after which McLaughlin periodically volunteered on the campaign. Murray has never denied knowing him.
Last month I wrote out a check for Elizabeth Warren. I will probably put a big lawn sign on my property and ask others to do the same. Maybe people will assume from the sign and the personal check that I am connected to Elizabeth Warren in a big way, but I will have them fooled… I am not a friend of hers, have never met her, heard her speak or attended any event for her…but, if I was as crafty as McLaughlin has been to so many pols, bet I could make you believe we were “connected”.
McLaughlin has been supporting pols for 30 years…
goldsteingonewild says
HLP, cmon.
Have you had 193 cell phone conversations with Elizabeth Warren, like Murray/McLaughlin?
If you had done that, yes, we’d say you and Prof Warren are “connected.”
Christopher says
Are you suggesting his poetic reply to me above actually contains clues to his identity? If so I’m completely stumped.