Suffolk University/WHDH News7 Poll is out:
Head-to-head in our exclusive 7News/Suffolk University Poll it’s Scott Brown 48%, Elizabeth Warren 47%…with just 5% undecided.
In February, Brown was up 49 to 40; so he’s flat, and she’s growing.
Suffolk does not have the poll posted yet.
UPDATE [by David]: Suffolk now has details of the poll posted at this link.
Also, check out some great stuff in The Hill’s writeup:
“This has been like a fender-bender on the side of the road,” said Joe Malone, the former state treasurer and a major GOP player in Massachusetts. “They’re slowing down to look, but it’s not changing where they’re heading.” …
“You’re always surprised by something, but that overall ballot test number — it really did change,” said David Paleologos, the head of polling at Suffolk University. “What we can conclude is people do not believe it is a significant story.” …
“Unless he’s got something else that reinforces the seed he’s planted, that indicates a pattern, he’s going to have to move on,” said Malone. “Pretty soon the media will bail. If this is a yawner to the voters, let’s move on to something else.”
You go, Joe.
FURTHER UPDATE: Check out this very interesting discussion of the poll results on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. Joe Scarborough, a Republican, calls Warren “maybe the best I’ve ever seen.” Remarkable.
Discuss
54 Comments . Leave a comment below.It’s the second post-Cherokeegate poll that shows – at this point, I’d say unequivocally – that voters *do not care* about that story, despite the media’s apparently insatiable obsession with it. Andy Hiller is probably right about this:
I can’t wait for that.
The debates will have a completely different dynamic, I’ll be watching like its the Superbowl, ready to crack up when she starts talking like an Indian. “How, My name is Elizabeth Warren…”
your cute is showing.
Happy days.
Perhaps some enterprising soul should search redmassgroup to see if you did a cut and paste…
Please tell me there’s a banning policy for people who post rather racist pretend jokes, David? Can we finally be free of this content-free useless commenter?
When is enough enough?
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No David, don’t let the bullies stiffle free speech. I know it hits too close to the Warren campaign and the Globe even wrote an article yesterday saying she is zero Cherokee, let alone, qualify as a diversity hire. This is from the Boston Globe, not Newsmax.
Guys, you really need to relax, learn to laugh, have a good time, and let things role. Writing “How” is not hate speech, sorry. I believe David works at Columbia, where free exchange of ideas is embraced, not squashed like some here want to do.
No, that’s Bob.
Sorry David, my bad. Ah, I see you attended Univ. of Michigan, very nice! You look like someone with a good sense of humor and loves to the exchange of ideas, so my post defending “don’t get cute” is submitted to you for consideration.
Nice to talk with you.
A free exchange of ideas rests on the assumption that I have a responsibility to point out where your ideas are completely and utter quackery.
You seem to be under the impression that banning DGC from this forum would stifle his/her free speech rights – that is not the case at all. DGC is free to go spout racist nonsense on any street corner or any other venue, but BMG is under no obligation to provide him/her a forum in which to do so.
Free speech is specifically about Congress making laws restricting freedom of speech – perhaps you should take some time to actually read and understand the constitution.
You really think saying “how” is racist? Or has he defeated you many times in political thought, and you are tired of losing, and just want him gone, and replaced with a clone of yourself? Don’t you luv diversity of thought, or do you belong to a cult?
from a dbag. Go try blubbering your bullshit in your place of work and see how the 1st amendment serves you. You’ll be reachin’ for the 2nd amendment right quick-like.
Hey David, who would you rather have a beer with, me or Demintfan, with his anger management issues. Chill bro.
Typical tactic of a dishonest debater – when shown to be wrong, change the subject and attack the messenger. Nice work from “centrist” Dan!
Diversity of thought is one thing – racist claptrap is quite another, and yes, that comment was racist. If you can’t see that, then you’re certainly no centrist. You’ve said before that you’ve been called a “commie liberal” on other forums – I’d like to see some links proving that assertion. If you can’t provide links, then you’re nothing but a right-wing liar, worth about a dime a dozen in today’s political world. Put up or shut up, Dan…
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2011/10/31/mitt-romneys-health-care-defenses-still-dont-cut-it/2/
Best I can do, I thin American Spectator did a blog on ronmeycare where I got bombarded, but I don’t save my masterpieces. I am sure you agree the rabid rightwing would not be kind to me defending romneycare.
You claim to be that rarest of all breeds, the passionate centrist, or flaming moderate. You haunt this board, day and night, attempting with twisted logic to make liberals and liberal policies look bad. When called out as the clear right-wing reactionary you are, you claim that your “centrism” has caused right-wingers in other forums to call you a “commie liberal”. And finally, when asked to prove that you’ve actually been called a “commie liberal” on right wing forums, you direct me to a post at Forbes.com, where you defended Mitt Romney’s health care plan? And no one even replied to your comments, let alone called you a “commie liberal”?? Do you now expect me to take you seriously?
You’re a joke, a sad, pathetic joke, and I believe more firmly than ever that you’re nothing more than a right-wing liar. I agree with other posters – we need an ignore button, this board would be vastly improved if I never saw another bit of drivel from your keyboard.
I don’t save the blogs or links that I will make posts just one time. Could it be a possibility that the article le is no longer available? I can’t find it, what do want me to do. I can tell you I use realclearpolitcs a lot, and was directed the the link.
Right wing liar who loves Romneycare and the fact we have 98% coverage? Going on a conservative site would embrace someone from MA supporting RC?
If by ‘diversity of thought’ you include any raving, looney, half-baked with a side of entitlement, neuronal misfiring that is spewed carelessly without regard to facts or proof, then I think I’ll choose the ‘cult’ of reality. There is plenty of ‘diversity of thought’ in an insane asylum… doesn’t mean it’s going to get you anywhere.
Here’s the thing: if your last stand is the bald accusation that your opponents ‘ don’t believe in diversity of thought’ then your thoughts can’t stand on their own. Belief in a ‘diversity of thought’ rejects, utterly and totally, anything outside of the ideas themselves, including the idea that such an accusation has any merit whatsoever.
Somebody who believes truly and deeply in diversity of thought will recognize worthy and potent ideas all on their own: they don’t need to be coaxed into believing something, or propped into accepting someones ravings just for the sake of ‘diversity of thought’. And somebody who believes in a diversity of thought will accept that others might disagree with them, engage them and be willing to change their minds.
And those who believe in a ‘diversity of thought’ will understand that some ideas will be impotent and fey and they will dismiss them.
Isaac Asimov said:
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”
Can we at least get an Ignore function? The value of the site has taken a nosedive recently, and it’s due to the efforts of a very few individuals.
Five people want me to leave, fine. Say yes below and adios….oops, is that racist too?
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I have no confidence that you’ll actually go away; I assume you’ll reappear with a new nic and the same tired routine.
I’ll add my voice – go haunt some other forum with your blather
Of course he won’t leave.
Don’t feed him.
Kalamazoo beckons
Dude, you lost me after the first paragraph, wow.
My comment was too meta and I can see that it could easily be offensive, but I was not joking about Native Americans and didn’t mean to sound like I was joking at their expense or perpetuating racist stereotypes. I know they don’t say “How” like they were portrayed in cowboys and indians movies and are offended when people say that. I apologize to Native Americans for using offensive language. I am certainly here to defend Native Americans against exploitation, such as Elizabeth Warren does when she calls herself Cherokee and tries to “civilize” them with Pierre Franey recipes served to the Duke and Duchess of Wales.
My comment was noting that the controversy probably hasn’t affected who anyone is going to vote for, but it has changed the dynamic of the race, and the debates are going to be interesting to see how she responds. I think she’s so offensive with her saying she’s proud of her Native American heritage while apparently only being proud of the Native Americans who became “civilized” and assimilated into whiteness, and ashamed of those that don’t even know how to cook a proper English meal that I fully expect her to dress in a Pocohontus outfit or something while bobbing her head around accusing everyone of attacking her.
Who did you steal this from, plagiarist?
I am very careful never to plagiarize anything. I always make sure at least 1/32 of what I write is my own words. But seriously, copying Rob’s diary was a joke to see who might notice. If you didn’t think it was funny, so be it, but let’s move on, OK?
No reason to move on from it, plagiarist. You can say it was a joke now that it’s been uncovered, but that doesn’t make your statement true. You’re an unapologetic plagiarist, and now you’ve revealed yourself as a racist. It’s gotta suck being you…
You for gave Joe Biden for plagiarism back in 1988, when he ripped of a labor candidate in Britian, no?
Or are you just a sockpuppet?
Just asking, my friend. Did you forgive Scranton Joe Biden?
and no excuses to justify indifference. From an early age, I was taught that success is measured not in material accumulations, but in service to others. I was encouraged to join causes larger than myself, to pursue positive change through a sense of mission, and to stand up for what I believe.
Stop attacking my family. I, um, middle class families are getting hammered. I have made the facts clear, and what I am trying to do is talk about the issues that are most important to the people of Massachusetts: getting hammered.
What a bummer, I thought you were going to tell us what you plan on drinking tonight. Did you see my question to Dave who he would rather have a beer with, me to AngryDemintfan. He never answered, so I guess we all know the answer. I hope AngryDemintfan doesn’t take it personally.
I quit drinking on New Years, 2012. Thanks anyway.
Now you and George W. Bush have something in common.
putting a dance pole in my pickup truck.
She twice repeats the false talking point that Brown voted to double the interest rate on student loans, when in fact he is pushing a bill to keep the rate at the low rate. Come on, enough with the dishonesty, she thinks she’s just entitled to a free pass to lie, because she’s a woman.
Audio doesn’t work. What a shame.
Oh, the Brown bill: shake the loose change out of the club chairs in the senate lounge – without having a drink of course.
n/t
I’ve seen the picture. He’s definitely dead.
heh-heh
Elizabeth Warren, emerging from what many consider the roughest patch yet in her Senate campaign, has pulled into a virtual tie with US Senator Scott Brown, according to a new Suffolk University/7News poll.
did the Herald put out a front page story on this. You might figure that it might have at least influenced a voter or two to be undecided. But in essence the voters in the state don’t think it’s an issue, just like that idiotic “professor” Warren line he thought would help him.
Barnett and the folks at the Brown campaign must be scratching their heads, but I can give them some advice. It’s how you vote. There are a good amount of people in the state that do not agree with how Brown votes and they want someone who represents them. It’s that simple.
(That’s about thirty-six hours old, notice.)
Now about “exactly right”: it was really a pretty nifty ‘take’ by Comrade Bernstein, though admittedly all this would look different if Social Scientism had found Sen. Fratboy ten points ahead all of a sudden.
Paddy did not predict anything at all, but in retrospect I guess maybe I should have. The tone of the endless sermonizin’ by the Herald an’ the Three Weird Sisters [1] would have alerted a competent analyst that only whight-wing choirboys gave a hoot. The usual Kiddiemasters all obviously thought their lad Scottie was makin’ a killin’, but if that had really been the case, unenrolled voters would have coming around to the People’s Seat™warmer, which is quite a different thing from dyed-in-the-feather wingnuts havin’ a field day.
If such a shift does actually happen, it may be that professional agitproppers for reaction will hardly notice before they see it reflected in the polls, so far out of touch are they with ‘independents’
“[Foxcuckooland] is a foreign country; they [see] things differently there.”
Happy days.
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[1] WRKO 680, WXKS 1200, WTKK-FM 96.9; as it were Regan, Goneril & KKKordelia.
The inimitable, hopefully, Herald is still goin’ strong even as I keystroke:
That, however, has been fetched to us from afar. From General Lord George Will, as it happens, whose instinctive rapport with the Spirit of Massachusetts is not, in my judgment, heavily to be relied on.
Though maybe his freelordship was visitin’ the Athens of Suffolk County yesterday or the day before:
The numbers, at least, are interesting, especially if they come straight from the Fingers of Fehrnstrom. As I suppose they may well.
The poll only consisted of 600 likely voters although the proportion of Dems, Reps, and Independents reflect state numbers. However only 9% of those polled were from Suffolk County where the Independents lean heavily towards Democratic candidates. This is in contradistinction to the SE and Cape that tends to be more Scott Brown territory. Also 2% of those questioned had no knowledge of Scott Brown and 6% for Elizabeth Warren. This is an important 3:1 opportunity if it holds up across the state, especially in Democratic leaning independent strongholds. So we need to keep our powder dry and keep working to build grass roots support and the candidate will have to start making herself better known. This poll is not truly reflective of the entire elective. The debates will certainly be important but should not deter the actual work of campaigning. So full speed ahead if you want Elizabeth Warren to be the first female and next Senator from Massachusetts. Her credentials rightfully earned should be foremost and Scott Brown’s attempts to smear her should be highlighted as not representative of the prestige of being a Senator. Then let the chips fall where they may.
was dead even in the polls too just before Little Big Horn.
Warren doesn’t claim to be Sioux Indian.
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