After the killings at the Sikh temple in Wisconsin, I tried in vain to convince somervilletom and mike-cote that it was more than old-school racism and hatred fueled by right-wing speech against Muslims who “hate our freedom,” it was also fueled by left-wing speech against Muslims and other religions who believe in traditional marriage and “hate gays and women.”
Here was my attempt, with mike-cote’s stubborn response:
Not just the GOP
It’s true that it’s been GOP people like Michelle Bachmann who have raised a paranoid alarm about Muslim infiltration into government, etc, but their worries are backed up and eagerly agreed to by Democrats who call social conservatives the “American Taliban” and say that opposition to gay marriage is a form of sharia law. It’s Libertarians in both parties who fan the flames of anti-Muslim hatred.
dont-get-cute @ Mon 6 Aug 2:13 PM
Show a single news report of someone being killed for being hetero or being opposed to marriage equality. There are none, but without even trying there a dozens of stories of gay men and women and people just perceived as gay that are attached all the time in America, and your pathetic need to play “The Victim” at anything even close to that is laughable. No body likes me, everybody hates me, think I’ll eat some worms…
mike_cote @ Mon 6 Aug 2:30 PM
Well, it took a couple weeks, but now I can show you a single news report of someone trying to kill people for being opposed to marriage equality, or as the deranged individual said, their “politics” in general. I’m sure you’ve seen the story, in spite of it not being discussed on this blog so far, so I won’t participate in your charade by blockquoting any of the details. I know you all know all about it. The only reference to “Family Research Council” I saw recently was tudor586 writing about the “kiss-in” at the Chick-Fil-A in Burlington, which as he proudly notes, got lots of coverage:
The American Family Association (“AFA”) and the Family Research Council, both Southern Poverty Law Center designated hate groups, also receive Chick-Fil-A dollars and have close ties to those calling for the execution of gay people in Africa. The AFA advocates imprisonment of gay people who engage in “sodomy” in the United States.
Coverage of the kiss-in in Burlington has been extensive.
You guys seem to be in deep denial about this incident and your culpability and irresponsibility. I think it should be an occasion for serious reflection, and not shameful doubling down. I hope BMG commenters won’t degrade themselves with stupid comments such as one I found at the story above: “Those who perpetuate hate through bigotry, homophobia and racism are responsible when retaliation comes there way.” That is a really scary sentiment that needs to be repudiated by responsible people on the left, who really need to ratchet down the rhetoric and stop putting marriage equality and post-genderism ahead of every other priority.