US median income lowest since 1995 – why we need Elizabeth Warren

You know what's going to cure that? More tax cuts for the rich! [/ScottBrown] - promoted by charley-on-the-mta

From The Financial Times:

“Real median household income reached its peak at $54,932 in 1999, 8.9 per cent above its current level, under President Bill Clinton and has not been below $50,000 since 1995. Under President George W. Bush, it fell to $52,778 by 2004 before recovering to reach $54,489 in 2007 and then sliding again in 2008.”

The Republican and Third-Way war against the middle class continues to be successful. The rich are doing better than ever, fueled by government policies that help them every turn, rushing to their aid with all manner of bailouts and financial gimmickry if a banker so much as sneezes.

For the middle class? Social Security and Medicare cuts to be agreed upon after the elections. Peas, cat food, and more of us declining into poverty.

When Elizabeth Warren says that we in the middle have been “chipped, squeezed and hammered”, she’s being polite. We’ve endured a chainsaw to the kneecaps, and they’re coming back for the elbows.

We need Warren in the Senate both to prevent Brown from (photogenically!) continuing to vivisect the 99%, but also as the start of a movement to put real Democrats, FDR Democrats, back in power.  Our current Democratic president, for example, actually brags that he’s more conservative than Herbert Hoover.

Well, Hoover policies yield Hoover outcomes.  And here we are.

Paul Krugman calls it a depression, and who can seriously disagree? And there will be no letup until we have people in Washington who fight for the 99%.

I wish Ms. Warren the best in winning a Senate seat.  Let’s all do what we can to make sure that Massachusetts voters understand that she’s who we need in our corner of the ring.  And let’s equally make sure that voters know that while Mr. Brown might look cuddly, he has toiled mightily as a good Republican to screw us over.

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  1. Isn't this a reason to dump Obama.....

    If the poverty rate is worse during Obama’s term then shouldn’t we dump Obama….do we agree?

    • Bill Clinton summarized your position well...

      “We left a mess. He has not cleaned it up fast enough, so put us back in.”

      I’ll have to say “no” to your proposal. Obama’s no bargain, but today’s mainstream Republicans are utterly unhinged from reality.

    • Are you kidding me???

      Absolutely not! This kind of thinking is a big part of how Democrats lose elections.

      You’re welcome to think whatever you’d like. But if you want Elizabeth Warren to get elected, she’s going to need some help from Obama’s coattails, and comments like this are counterproductive.

  2. or fire congress

    don’t you agree?

  3. We need to replace them with someone, no?

    The hope is to replace them with folks who fight for the 99%.

  4. Yes we do!

    Just didn’t like the X’man’s snarky question.

  5. How come Obama hasn't fixed this yet?

    I thought for sure I saw it on his “to-do” list.

    • And it is a quick fix.

      Just cut taxes for rich people. You’d think he’d know what to do by now.

      • Why Hoover fixed the Great Depression in 2 years!

        Didn’t he?

        • I think those guys over at the Hoover Institute

          are still trying to fix it – their way.

          • They're trying to fix the 99%

            Good and hard.

            • Whenever no one has an answer they start making jokes here.

              It seems like it’s nervous reaction or something.

              If you want to joke, maybe if Obama wasn’t spending so much time doing this

              http://jacksonville.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c003e53ef01761686bd57970c-pi
              or this
              http://reason.com/blog/2011/06/14/obamacares-rules-exempt-from-p

              Pretty funny huh?

              • Without the joking

                “How come Obama hasn’t fixed this yet?” is an extremely vapid question. If you’re going to hold us to some kind of higher standard, you could start by asking more intelligent questions.

                Maybe you’d prefer my joking, now?

                • Obama is the one running a vapid campaign

                  In 2008 he said he’d do a bunch of stuff (note I don’t remember universal health care being on it) and he’s done’ very little of it.

                  I don’t remember him saying he’d double the number of troops in Afghanisatn either.

                  So I’m suggesting that seeing as how he’s not made progress in the last four years, four more is not going to be a good idea. He’s probably going to win (and considering the electoral college, it might be big), but probably 48% of the population will agree with me.

                  • Who cares what you "remember"?

                    Your memory is selective.

                    He did in fact promise to insure more Americans, make insurance more accessible and end insurance company abuses. I think he delivered on that.

                    Obama did in fact promise to add two combat brigades to Afghanistan during his campaign, so increasing our involvement in Afghanistan was directly in line with his campaign position.

                    He promised to reverse Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans but has been stymied by Republicans in Congress.

                    How about this: why don’t you name one major campaign promise that Obama made and that you actually wanted to happen? Because if it turns out that you actually wanted him to fail on all of his goals, then it isn’t very convincing when you criticize him for failing to overcome Republican intransigence to achieve them.

                  • Let Me Google That For You

                    I don’t remember him saying he’d double the number of troops in Afghanisatn either.

                    In 2008, Obama was explicit about sending two additional combat brigades into Afghanistan. I didn’t agree with that policy then, and I don’t agree with it now, but it wasn’t a bait-and-switch.

                    Maybe, just maybe, your memory isn’t as good as you think it is. Luckily the Internet never forgets…which you’d know if you’d taken five seconds and double-checked your facts before spouting off.

                  • Your question was still vapid

                    and the fact that you can use “vapid” in a sentence does not count as evidence against that.

              • What is it that I don't have an answer to?

                Perhaps I can clarify something for you.

                • Most of your posts are pointless or don't add anything

                  he (Obama) does not view us a prey to be devoured in order to purchase yet another car elevator for yet another home.

                  What does that mean? It’s not a true statement. Romney has spent ten of millions (maybe over a hundred?) of dollars running for office. Do you think he’s trying to re-coop that? If it was all about money, wouldn’t he stay in the private sector. If you’re trying to be funny, it’s not. It’s dumb.

                  I could just as easily say “Obama saw that Clinton made $100 million since he was in office, so he ran for President so he could be super-rich as well” That statement could at least be plausible.

                  • YOU ARE LOOPY

                    Pass the crack pipe, mack

                  • Most of your posts are pointless

                    No one else thinks that.

                  • Merrimackguy, don't waiver from your views.

                    You make a lot of sense but you are swimming against the tide here on BMG. Did you notice the post from the BMG editors saying because Scott Brown is whining about EW’s ads, they must be working. Well transplant that whining to BMGers complaining about your posts… because it’s working.

                    Stick to your guns! Obama is going to lose because he has not fixed our economy.

                    He said it himself, when he said if things aren’t better than he’ll be a one term President.

                    Next thing the GOP should talk to Americans about…

                    • The troll motivation inadvertently revealed

                      I don’t think I’d urge anyone whom I enjoy reading here to “never waiver from your views.” I might might as well urge someone to be stupid, for the ability to “waiver” in one’s views is a sign of an active intelligence.

                      Nor would I ever regard it as a sign that anyone here caused whining indicated that that person were doing something right. If you think being irritating is some kind of virtue, civic or otherwise, then I’m glad you aren’t a neighbor.

                    • That's ok... for you.

                      If you want to have wishy-washy views on issues then go for it. Myself, I like people who stand by their views and do not surrender. I call it backbone, stamina and maybe even confidence. Now of course you can take the extreme stance and misrepresent my words “don’t waiver from your views” and convert it to “never waiver from your views.” but quite frankly that is below you and something you would “never” stand for from a BMG poster. Do you really think don’t means never?

                      As for the whining, posters have a definite “attitude” in responding to Merrimackguy’s posts lately. Yes, I call that whining! I’ll define that anyway I feel like defining it. I don’t think I’m irritating either, unless bringing subjects up which many of you would rather ignore is irritating, at which point I would admit to it.

                    • I want to have intelligent views on issues

                      If you want to call being a moron “having a backbone”, go for it.

                      And before diagnosing merit, it’d be nice if you looked at content.

                      Oh I forgot.

                      You don’t look at content. It’s against your principles. You have decided we “dislike” Merimackguy’s posts. And that’s all you need.

                    • Overediting

                      Should read:

                      And before diagnosing attitude.

                    • This sentiment of having unwaivering positions....

                      … is a vice, not a virtue. It’s most commonly associated with religious views, since being unwavering in the face of contrary evidence is faith.

                      All positions, even the theory of gravity, are provisional until better evidence is found. Not holding this to be true is the very definition of faith and intellectual dishonesty.

                    • Corollary

                      Johnd isn’t here for a discussion so much as for a battle. One entering a discussion looks forward to new perspectives; one entering a battle wants to show unwavering fortitude in the face of the adversary.

                • Nice grahic Johnd-o

                  well done :)

  6. YES!!!

    This is exactly why people are so angry, and the ridiculous rise in the cost of living along side this. Whoever addresses this problem is the one who will be the saint in the eyes of Main St America.

    • Waiting for someone to use a chart ...

      in a Senate ad. I would do it. :)

      • As long as they are careful

        This doesn’t look good for President Obama either. But Scott Brown can definitely be blamed for it. He never acknowledges that it’s happening, considers it to be a problem, or has done anything to fix it. E. Warren could definitely take it and run with it. I think she should.

    • Which is what Ms. Warren should be doing

      Instead of toning down her routine so that the talking heads can say she’s getting more polished, she should be giving ‘em hell and citing relevant numbers. It worked for Clinton at the DNC because PEOPLE ARE YEARNING FOR IT.

  7. I read no credible argument for Warren in these post

    It’s only “Brown is bad” and “raise taxes on the rich.” Unsubstantiated comments like liveandletlive’s “But Scott Brown can definitely be blamed for it” fail to work as a political argument against Brown. It’s as definitive as blaming a single player for the Red Sox’s collapse this year.

    Obama and the Dems had absolute full control of the US government for 24 months, and could have passed ANY tax policy or economic reform they wanted to pass. What was he waiting for? Instead, nothing was done, and now we’re becalmed, going nowhere, and facing a possible double dip.

    For Warren, not having a specific and compelling plan to share with MA voters favors the incumbent. Vacuous bromides are insufficient.

    Brown by 7 points.

    • Dems had 60 Senate seats?

      Can you provide a link?

      Thanks in advance.

    • Buh?

      Obama and the Dems had absolute full control of the US government for 24 months

      Here in America, we have an institution called the Senate, and it’s designed to protect minority rights. You seem blissfully unaware of its existence or the voting record of some of its members like, say, Ben Nelson.

      could have passed ANY tax policy or economic reform they wanted to pass

      Sure, and if you don’t count a successful stimulus package, an overhaul of health care, or the rescue of the American auto industry, then yeah, they didn’t pass anything at all.

      Obvious Republican is obvious.

      • Obama could have let the Bush tax cuts expire without any help from Congress

        But he didn’t. Nobody here can dispute that fact.

        • true...

          …but…

          [new] Obama could have let the Bush tax cuts expire without any help from Congress

          But he didn’t. Nobody here can dispute that fact.

          … he used that as bargaining power in a larger context: extending unemployment benefits and moving forward on ridding us of ‘don’t-ask-don’t-tell’ as two of the more welcome examples.

          • Of course I know that. But so what?

            He didn’t do something he said he was going to do. That’s the point. I don’t care what he traded it for.

            I don’t know why he’s wanking about it now when he could have had it.

            • And to be clear... Obama will sign it again in January!

              As I have predicted many times on this site, Obama will only get one bill to sign in January. The GOP will NOT approve a bill which only raises taxes on the rich, regardless of the GOP losing the POTUS and the Senate. They will not! Obama will not raise taxes on the poor and middle class (where the majority of the actual Bush tax cuts come from) so he’ll hold bios nose (again) and sign a 2(?) continuation and hope for a DEM House in 2014. Write this one down boys (men… or guys).

            • I'm beginning to think you're not arguing in good faith...

              He didn’t do something he said he was going to do.

              Show me where Obama said he’d repeal the Bush tax cuts for middle- and low-income earners. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

              You titled the relevant post, “Obama could have let the Bush tax cuts expire without any help from Congress,” so I’m sure that you’re aware that had Obama done what you say he could have done—allowing the Bush tax cuts to lapse “without any help from Congress—then the Bush era tax cuts would have expired for all earners. You should probably take a look at what candidate Obama said about that OH WAIT HERE IT IS: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2008-11-08/news/17910293_1_tax-cuts-middle-class-tax-obama-senior-adviser

              You need to start asking the Google machines a thing or two before hitting Submit.

              • So then you agree with his statement.

                Obama could have let the Bush tax cuts expire without Congress. They would EXPIRE if nothing was done. But Obama didn’t do this, he extended them for everyone. That is!irrefutable

                • Did you read my post?

                  Obama could have let the Bush tax cuts expire without Congress.

                  Of course I agree with that statement. That statement on its own is a fact.

                  But that statement in conjunction with merrimackguy’s original post points to someone who’s looking to damn Obama if he does and damn Obama if he doesn’t.

                  That is!irrefutable

                  It’s also irrelevant. Seriously, did you read my post?

                  • Yes, I made my way through it.

                    And I addressed what I wanted to address.

                    Obama is a man of his word…

                    He would not support it. He would not sign that bill,” Carney said, when asked if Obama could support a bill that extended all of the Bush tax cuts. Pressed further on whether the president would simply not sign such a bill or if he would actually veto it, Carney finally said, “He would veto.”

                    That of course does not address the question as to whether Obama would let all the tax cuts expire, but who said this statement besides you…

                    Show me where Obama said he’d repeal the Bush tax cuts for middle- and low-income earners. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

        • Stop moving the goal posts

          In your original post, you took Obama to task because he “could have passed ANY tax policy or economic reform they wanted to pass.”

          In this post, you’re taking him to task for failing to revert to a pre-Bush tax code.

          What makes you think that simply allowing all the Bush tax cuts to expire constitutes “ANY tax policy or economic reform [Obama] wanted to pass?” This is some seriously lazy argumentation, and I think you know it.

      • Please remember this fact when BMGers talk about

        George Bush and the GOP having total control over the US Government back from 2000-2006.

  8. Thanks Manny, I just sent the chart over to the Romney campaign.

    Do you have any more? This clearly shows Obama has done nothing to help middle class America. Not only has he done nothing but the trend is spiraling down. Great post, keep it up!

    Please remember that any upcoming polls which show Obama winning are rock solid but any polls showing Scott Brown winning are bogus, pass the word.

    • This election is a choice between two candidates

      While it’s true that working Americans seem not to be a high priority Obama, he does not view us a prey to be devoured in order to purchase yet another car elevator for yet another home.

      Most Americans seem to understand this. Let’s hope they can keep that thought for a few more weeks. And let’s hope that Ms. Warren is the start of a wave of Democratic candidates for whom working Americans *are* a priority.

      • I want the candidate who will fix our country to be POTUS.

        If it’s a guy who made tons of money off Wall St I don’t care. If it’s a guy who made tones of money off selling books or whatever. We would be in far better shape if we had more investors like Bain to help get our economy going, it’s FLAT and as EW says, “The middle class is getting hammered…” said with her whiny voice, eyes blinking and shaking her head.

        Obama

        Obama has $3.4 million in US Treasuries, nearly three quarters of a million in cash, $625,000 in mutual funds and ETFs, including about $300,000 in college funds for their girls, as well as a $90,000 in a State of Illinois pension fund.

        Romney’s wealth is orders of magnitude higher than Obama but both are millionaires. Funny how US Senators become millionaires, no wonder they do it for a somewhat small salary.

        • That's what I want, too

          Unfortunately I don’t see that as an option that’s in front of me. I can choose someone who will neither aggressively help nor aggressively attack working Americans, or someone who *will* (as far as I can tell) wage war against working Americans. As a working American, I choose the former.

          Obama made money from selling books. Romney made money by leveraging his vast privilege to prey upon the defenseless, to grab government bailouts, and so forth. I don’t think those are comparable

        • Come off it

          her whiny voice, eyes blinking and shaking her head

          By all means, ignore the actual content of Elizabeth Warren’s message. The whininess of her voice is, obviously, more important.

          You say you just want someone who will fix the problem, then you start talking about Warren’s blinks and head shakes? Pardon me if I have trouble taking you seriously.

          • You're pardoned.

            Sorry if I have trouble getting past things like that sometimes. When I see members of Congress wearing stupid hats or outfits, Ron Paul’s voice, Dennis Kucinich’s UFO beliefs… I just don’t like some of those mannerisms.

  9. From Julian Castro

    The keynote speaker at the DNC made it quite simple. You can tell a man(woman) by who he(she) walks with. So Sen Brown walks with financiers who sunk the economy, employers who want to limit regular health insurance, gets an anti-abortion groups endorsement, and has an 80% rating with national pro-life groups on his voting record, welcomed Tea Party support, agrees with a Paul Ryan budget, and considers Mitt Romney and Karl Rove chief backers. Just turn it around 180 degrees for Elizabeth Warren and you have your two choices. Scott Brown walks with people who put the economy in the toilet and votes against issues important to women, more than half the population of the electorate.

    • That's interesting

      I saw a clip this AM of well known Wall Streeter John Mack arriving at a Romney fundraiser and he said “I was behind Obama in 08 but now I’m backing Romney.” What does that say about Obama in 08? He has lost most of his WS support, but in 2008 Obama was walking with them.

      You remind me of the all the people that were worked up about Ayers and Rev Wright.

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