I Would Never Never Never Never…

never never never never never never never never never never never never never never never never

vote for Ed Markey,

Except if ran against Vickie Kennedy!

And there are many more like me out there.

p.s. I like how Fast Eddie jumped in first. Other congressmen getting in the race dilutes it to Vikki’s benefit.


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  1. Why?


    • My Point is...

      many Dems independent/dems out there who have negative view of Markey. Like all politicians. These people, like me, could never picture a scenario where Markey would get their vote in a Dem primary.

      However, if it were Markey and Vickie were the only choices an amazing number of people that have a negative view of him will vote for him over her. With vigor.

      BTW what’s up with mike-cote?

      eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii   @   Thu 27 Dec 6:45 PM
  2. My prediction for 2013

    EB3 will vote for the pathetic loser Scott Brown.

  3. Besides, we don't have open primaries in MASS.

    You would need to be a registered Democrat to vote in the primary.


  4. On the "Recent Comments" list

    right now, every single comment is by Mike_Cote or EB3.

  5. Actually Mike...

    …unenrolled voters can choose either primary to vote in. If we have a contest and the R’s don’t they will almost all pull a D ballot.

  6. Ernie or eb3

    What is your point? Why the vitriol against Markey? I could understand Lynch or Neal (DINOettes)…….but what votes/policies has Ed Markey cast that have your panties in a twist? Just curious?

    • Never, ever, ever....

      I think EB3 just wanted an excuse to start singing Taylor Swift’s recent song.

    • Sorry Hearland, Unclear Post

      It’s really a Vickie Kennedy slam. I’m saying there are people out there that never in a million years thought they would vote for Ed Markey for Senate would vote for him enthusiastically over Vickie Kennedy.

      eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii   @   Fri 28 Dec 1:13 PM
    • Why is Neal

      a DINO?

      • Neal's too conservative for his district

        A few years ago, Nate Silver did a ranking of the most and least valuable Democrats based on how liberal they are vs. how liberal an average Congressman from their district would be. Lynch and Neal were both among the 25 least valuable, due to their anti-choice votes. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/03/stats-say-kucinich-may-be-least.html

        • I'm not persuaded by Nate Silver's

          rankings or methodology on this. I’m not a fan of Dennis Kucinich, but he’s the least valuable Democrat? Isn’t he our most progressive Congressman? Gabrielle Giffords, who was a Blue Dog, was the most valuable?

          I’m a big Nate Silver fan, but not every regression analysis is illuminating.

      • Policy above personalities

        In the recent re-districting, that was carved to protect the Springfield seat, he actually got out into the district and spoke with voters beyond the good ole boys club of 1970s Springfield pols. That was more activity than the past 12-18 years combined. The only issue he has championed has been social security. The fact that he has not championed or even submitted legislation for a myriad of issues from health care to education and infrastructure for a failing district…..with all the seniority and connections he has is abysmal. His latest promotion is to raise money for democratic candidates to the House. Self-serving and tweaking the tax code to benefit special interests (that are not even in the district) is not the mark of a forward thinking Democrat with a work ethic (Lynch can at least claim work ethic.)
        Have you researched the voting record?
        Hyde amendment – Yea
        Stupak – Yea

        Any environmental or education protection or advocacy? Nay

        What is his position on “clean coal, fracking or emissions/air quality” with 9,000 vehicle emissions traveling to a casino located (and locked into the already poor air quality) in the Pioneer Valley. Fracking is a real concern in the Berkshires (now part of the district) and may be for other parts of western Mass in the near future. Pols who play it safe – gauging their positions by the political pulse and purse are rudderless. They do not deserve to walk the halls of democracy as “representatives,” and are certainly not leaders.


        H.R.4762 : To suspend temporarily the duty on aircraft grade polyvinyl butyral.
        Sponsor: Rep Neal, Richard E. [MA-2] (introduced 4/25/2012) Cosponsors (None)
        Committees: House Ways and Means
        Latest Major Action: 4/25/2012 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.

        6. H.R.4763 : To extend the temporary reduction of duty on N-phenyl-p-phenylenediamine.
        Sponsor: Rep Neal, Richard E. [MA-2] (introduced 4/25/2012) Cosponsors (None)
        Committees: House Ways and Means
        Latest Major Action: 4/25/2012 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.

        7. H.R.4764 : To suspend temporarily the duty on Potassium decafluoro(pentafluorethyl) cyclohexanesulfonate.
        Sponsor: Rep Neal, Richard E. [MA-2] (introduced 4/25/2012) Cosponsors (None)
        Committees: House Ways and Means
        Latest Major Action: 4/25/2012 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.

        8. H.R.4765 : To suspend temporarily the duty on Pigment Yellow 194.
        Sponsor: Rep Neal, Richard E. [MA-2] (introduced 4/25/2012) Cosponsors (None)

        What are these chemicals and why/how does it benefit the people and the district to suspend the duty? This is about policy and job performance – as it should be for each elected official who is entrusted with a generous salary, benefits and the trust of citizens and taxpayers.

        • John Olver has been my Congressman

          for the last 20 years. I’ve known him most of my life. He used to drop into my parents’ house unannounced all the time. He’s one of the liberal members of Congress.Yet he’s not sponsored many bills. He’s done well by our district and for the Massachusetts delegation.

          I don’t know Richie Neal at all. Until now, he’s never represented me. I thank you for giving me some specifics. But I’m still puzzled by my progressive friends who sort of hold their nose when he’s mentioned. My suspicion is that it has less to do with their knowledge of his voting record than the fact that he is from Springfield, has represented those interests, and is a pol.

          • I/we the district

            miss Congressman Olver already. He may not have been a prolific sponsor of bills, and I was not suggesting that “bigger is better,” rather that individuals like him are what we deserve in Congress. He has been a principled elected official who has been on the right side of issues (or left/liberal as it were) and has delivered for the district, particularly with transportation and progressive infrastructure improvements.
            Olver = Quality and Integrity. I wish him and his family all the best.

      • Thanks for the info.

        I live in Neal’s (re)district. I’ll have to dig in.

    • Has anyone ever seen Mike_Cote and eb3 together?

      …very interesting…

  7. Give Neal a little more credit.

    There seems to be some cherry picking going on here. According to these ratings NARAL is pleased and he has been endorsed by the Sierra Club. All the way down the line Neal appears to score much better with groups one might describe as liberal rather than conservative.

    • Hardly.

      When a pol knows a district is changing and it will include a wide swath of new Democrats/Berkshire progressives and alters their life-time anti-choice position to appease the voters, it does not spell p-r-i-n-c-i-p-l-e…..ask Mitt.

      Check out the campaign website of the Congressman who represents minority-majority cities. What racial (or gender) mix is in the pictures that he chose to portray his representation of the people? SEIU group photo and President Barack Obama are exceptions.

      When I look at Mitt and Scottie’s crowds and staff, I see the same. When I see Warren, Patrick, McGovern or Menino, the staff and audiences are a reflection of the whole community.

      DINOs grab for AFL-CIO and teacher union endorsements like bagels for breakfast. Low hanging fruit….so low, you have to bend over to pick it up.

      Show me the list of 20 years of accomplishments (1989-present.) Let’s see 20+ years X ~155K/year = 3.1 millie, plus pension for……life. Plus additional outside contracts.

      Let’s talk ROI for all paid elected officials. Teachers, cops, highway workers are all under the microscope. Why do we not scrutinize Congressional job performance?

      I propose we raise our expectations. Lots of people would love to be making 170K with benefits, keep their own clock, have a staff and campaign expense accounts, not to mention being able to drink at DC cocktails parties ad infinitum. If the system were not so corrupt we would see more talent running for office. Take Downing for example, the obstacle of distance from Boston power brokers and funding make the intelligence, integrity and positive accomplishments pale in comparison to insider backing.

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