So Charley Baker has named East Boston state rep Carlo Basile as his patronage secretary. He calls it something different but it’s the patronage secretary. This is the person who keeps track of the thousand plus appointments the governor makes to boards and commissions and authorities.
Now if the rep from Wellesley was made patronage secretary he’d be getting calls from people interested in the Banking Commission or the board over at UMass Medical.
When you’re the rep from East Boston like Carlo your voice mail is full of locals wanting to be on the barber commission or the state plumbing board.
But anyway, the buck stops at Carlo Basile’s door for all the administrative law judges Baker will appoint.
This should be fun to watch.
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Attention Market Basket shoppers: Have you noticed the climbing prices? I have. Has Artie T. closed the deal yet? I haven’t read anything saying he has. But one thing is sure. His game of using his partners’ share of the profits (not his) to ingratiate himself with the workers, customers and friendly reletives are over.
Game over. The new creditors are watching everything. The prices are already showing it and they will continue to rise. And as for all those benefits and huge profit sharing? Gone. Artie has to play by rules now.
And of course he lost. Remember? His cousins were trying to get him to buy them out for years but he refused. Why should he have? It was easier to continue to steal from them. Then they forced the issue and Artie leveraged everything to come up with the two billion price tag.
That’s a big win for Artie S. and another step towards Artie T. being exposed further as a thief and a fraud.
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Bob and Jonathan Kraft are all giddy about the possibility of owning the main venue for the 2024 Olympics. Their new soccer stadium temporary outfitted for the 70,000 seat site would make the Krafts the landlord which in their hands will be parlayed into the face of the Boston Olympics.
I bet the city can cut a good deal in selling the Krafts the Frontage Road land for the soccer stadium. They probably will work out the contingent Olympic deal in original agreement.
Mark L. Bail says
have one of these patronage secretaries? Based on the small sample I’m aware of, he left GOP appointees in place for the last 8 years.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
It used to be called Patronage Secretary. They all had one. The job title may change but it’s a necessary function.
I just can’t believe he made Basilke the gate-keeper.
petr says
.. Mitt Rmoney abolished the position in 2002, hired an “Human Resources’ director and did it the corporate way for the five actual minutes of governance he did.
Governor Patrick, it appears, kept that system in place, more or less.
Governor-elect Baker is resurrecting the position apparently because he has no template for government past 2001. Oh, and William Weld is registering as a lobbyist in the CommonWealth.
Looks like Charlie’s getting the band back together…
kirth says
I have not seen any significant price increases at MB. Until I do, or until Mr. Incredible links to someone credible reporting it, this goes into the circular file of unsubstantiated Mr. Incredible fantasies.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
good man
johnk says
Dude, why the hate? link
Christopher says
…but they still have noticibly lower prices than their competitors.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
yup, it’s true
kirth says
They somehow have mistakenly published results that show the opposite, with MB in a completely different tier of “Price satisfaction” from Wegmans. I’m sure they’ll adopt whatever advanced methodology is used at Mr. Incredible Laboratories as soon as they’re made aware of it. In fact, please share that methodology with us here, because neither my wife nor I were able to detect these lower prices when we’ve visited Wegmans.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
i don’t believe so.
kirth says
Price Check: Which Boston supermarket chain is cheapest?
Market Basket, Hannaford neck-and-neck
UPDATED 7:18 PM EST Nov 24, 2014
Wegmans was third, behind MB and Hannaford. Sorry, Mr. Incredible, your truthiness has failed you again.
Christopher says
Those are the two nearest to me and I go back and forth a bit and the price differences are noticible.
regularjoe says
I don’t get your obsession over this. I get that you hate EB3, that you find him or her to be rude, abrasive and lacking in spelling and grammar skills. All that being said, his are the most interesting and most participated in postings on this site. Do I sense the green-eyed monster of envy here?
In regard to the MB saga, court case after court case has confirmed EB3’s basic premise which is that Arthur T and his father attempted to steal the company’s wealth away from Arthur S’s side of the family. Arthur T has lost EVERY major court case involving the whole dispute. You and Ryan seem to ignore this salient point, his treachery has been established beyond every doubt. As a result his side has been saddled with huge debt, this is the price Arthur T is paying for his misdeeds. Had he run the company fairly in accordance with his fiduciary duties this would not have been the necessary outcome. I shop at MB and I love the store but the prices are inching up. The lines don’t seem as long but the stores are still busy. Time will tell, but once you factor in the servicing of 1.5 billion in debt it seems clear that their whole pricing and employee compensation system will need to change. Arthur T has bankers as partners now and they have all of the leverage.
kirth says
I have not made much out of fakernie’s characterizations of ATD. Others here have pointed out the many flaws in his attacks, so I don’t have to. I’ve concentrated on the utter wrongness of his predictions about what would happen to MB. Those predictions might have seemed credible, if you didn’t try to match them up with reality. I understand that you’re one of those who find that sort of thing “interesting.” I do not.
To the best of my recollection, I have not been a critic of his spelling and grammar; you may be confusing me with someone else. If it’s important to you, you can spend some time reading my old comments. I am offended by his derisive, insulting, and demeaning responses to members who attempt to refute his wild assertions with facts.
You may have seen some incremental increase in prices at MB. I haven’t. If there are any such, they are mirrored by similar increases at other groceries, and MB remains the cheapest of its kind, as I demonstrated above. With your speculations about what the effects of the investor debt will be, you’re playing Mr. Incredible’s truthiness-based prediction game. as The Best Defense points out, MB’s debt load is better than most in the industry. I’m prepared to wait and see how things turn out, since I can’t affect that outcome. Mr. Incredible apparently can’t refrain from predicting what’s going to happen, but his record demonstrates that he’s not capable of doing so successfully. It’s the unshakeable confidence with which he presents his bogus predictions that I object to. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but anyone who questions his views is rewarded with scorn and derision. How very irreverent.
I have already answered the question in your comment’s title in an answer to fakernie’s similar question. Short version: no.
ryepower12 says
Well, perhaps you want to alert readers on some examples, with some of your deep, penetrating insight on fluctuations of grocery prices.
Since you’re an expert.
PS.
As I linked to in your first post about this… the Krafts want a *seperate* stadium for the Revs, their plan was to put it adjacent to where the prospective Olympic stadium would be.
Repeating something false doesn’t make it true.
Kraft will not wait until years after 2024 to have a soccer-specific stadium. The dude’s spending money on his team now — and trying to win now. Waiting that long will kill the momentum the Revs are seeing with fans.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
First off, that recent post of yours lamenting the closure of the meat packing plants of Frontage Road to buils the Olympic Stadium.
I didn’t comment but…. Jeeesh dude. You know that these businesses would be relocated. Just like the city’s necessary police and DPW yards that are their now.
As for the soccer stadium and olympic stadium one of the plans is to builds the soccer stadium and then add the temp seating for the Olympics. Nobody said anything about waiting until 2024 to build a soccer stadium.
As for DeMoulas baaahhaaaaa. They are going up and the 4% automatic discount will soon be a thing of the past. Then comes the generous profit sharing and other benefits.
Artie T. made his store by stealing for him cousins. He’s a thief. He’s a perjurer. He’s an obstructionist of justice. The record is clear on that. CLEAR> Not a good person.
methuenprogressive says
Or are you just pissed they make you collect shopping carts from the lot in the rain?
ryepower12 says
play soccer games for a few years in it, then a few years before the Olympics they’re going to shut it down to turn it into a 60-70k track stadium, then shut it down for another few years to demolish huge swaths of the track stadium and turn it into another soccer stadium?
That’s what you’re suggesting.
Not going to happen.
If there’s an Olympics in Boston, whatever happens to the track stadium will be a separate matter from the Revs stadium. Fish isn’t Don Corleone and Kraft isn’t Jack Woltz. No one’s going to give Kraft an offer he can’t refuse to get him to build a stadium he doesn’t want.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
That’s exactly what thye can do.
The track stadium is the socccer stadium. Kraft will have to play ball if he wants one.
You really need to get off the couch more Ryan.
kirth says
Now with more unsupported slander and gratuitous insults!
OMG!1!! You mean the 4% customer-appreciation discount that was promised to run till just after Christmas is going to be ended soon, and it’s only December?!?! What treachery! Thank God we have Mr. Incredible to shine his Spotlite of Innuendo on these outrages! Arthur T DeMoulas is clearly a perfidious villain; it’s no wonder his employees hate him.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
you da man.
Now can you confirm that Artie is a thief and perjury endusing little man?
jconway says
What was the quid pro quo here?
Also way to be a Beacon Hill outsider Charlie LOL
kirth says
It’s just more fakernie-generated vapor, telling us all how things are supposedly going to be, because of his special insight. How long are the mods going to let themselves be taken in by this fake? He doesn’t know any more than any of the less creative trolls who show up here, but the mods keep promoting his insults and BS anal-ysis and wrong predictions.
However much he amuses you, his emissions do not enhance this site. They degrade it.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
Wait. I am The Blue Mass Group God.
I am brilliant
I am insightful
I am enormously funny
I am humble
I am strong
I am handsome
I am beautiful
I am the best thing about Blue Mass Group.
I Am Ernie Boch, III and pity all you lessor mortals.
Kirth, thanks again for taking your valuable time to read my highly intelligent postings. It’s the people like you that get me out of bed each morning. I have a purpose.
kirth says
Thank you, mods, for this.
whoaitsjoe says
and that’s why I’m inviting you!
Mark L. Bail says
You spelled “lesser” wrong. Unless you mean everyone else is landlord.
whoaitsjoe says
Transubstantiation of the alphabet.
Bob Neer says
You’re welcome to provide your own too: write a post on the stadium issue, or patronage, or the price of yams at MB: whatever you please.
Christopher says
Very interesting
whoaitsjoe says
And we can all mark 12/11/2014 as the day that my sense of gender stereotypes was hit by the EB3 Bunker-Buster cruise missile.
I think I might go home and try on heels, now.
methuenprogressive says
There can be no other explanation.
methuenprogressive says
Three of “Earnie’s” last four posts have been front paged by Bob_Neer.
Reviewing the content of those three posts, they all should’ve been removed for violating BMG rules.
Odd behavior.
Christopher says
Bob said quite a while ago, possibly before your time here, that he likes Ernie’s stuff. He does most of the EB3 promotions in general.
Mark L. Bail says
were removed, there’d be no point in commenting.
methuenprogressive says
For promoting EB3’s serial rule violations to the front page.
shillelaghlaw says
EB3’s irreverent commentary serves as a needed counterbalance to the rest of the commentary here on BMG, which can at times be severe, humorless, dour, and self-important.
It would be cliche of me to call EB3 the Resident Id of BMG, but he (she? My theory is “they” – more than one person uses the EB3 account.) still represents the opinions of a substantial portion of Massachusetts Democrats or voters inclined to vote Democratic.
judy-meredith says
You would have gotten the standard 26, but you forgot excruciatingly boring and repetitive. One thing you can say about Ernie, they are never boring.
kirth says
That’s even more fake than I thought. “Reality-based,” huh? Less all the time, it seems.
Irreverent — I do not think that word means what you think it means. Perhaps you were looking for rude, or insulting. Self-centered would work.
jconway says
His insights on Basile were a solid contribution here-as was was the whitey coverage and some of the inside info on the earlier round of the DeMoulas civil war. I choose to stay optimistic about MB-the thing is it was a once solvent company that is now in significant debt to a boatload of creditor, so we may see some changes but they are the result of market forces rather than some long game Artie T wanted to play out.
Folks should definitely keep shopping there.
methuenprogressive says
“No need to get personal”?
From the alleged rules:
Peter Porcupine says
..about ONE ANOTHER.
We can trash public figures all we like. For example, I can say Elizabeth Warren is a racist hater who doesn’t care if seniors get their Social Security checks, who is trying to undermine is all with her demands to shut down the government over her extreme ideology.
David says
since Elizabeth Warren does have an account here, the rules do extend to her. Just FYI.
Christopher says
Criticism of politicians should also be fair, impersonal, and cited when possible.
johnk says
with EB3? PP I don’t think you want to go there.
EB makes stuff up, is often wrong, but people comment.
Peter Porcupine says
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TheBestDefense says
Your notion that it is okay to get ugly, to lie against people who are not members of this small list, is a mother lie. The rules do not say “we can trash public figures all we like.” And the courts do not allow it either, even if it is an impossibly high standard for an honest women in public to defend.
Why do you think it is okay to add words to rules that you did not write? Oh, I get it, you are another person who thinks it is okay to lie when you do not have to put your name on it in public. Peter, you once were a better person than this.
Shame on David for not enforcing his own rules. His pathetic comment that E Warren has “protection” because she “has an account here” won’t pass the Times v. Sullivan test.
Do the wussy gods of BMG want to be better than the worst of our SC, the Herald and Murdoch or do you just want to settle? I ask you to please go ahead and promote this post if you want a real debate about what real free speech is about. It ain’t happening here.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
And the dividends one is not an example. I corrected it.
Show me the my wrongs that are libelous. Even for the lessor standard of non-public figures.
Let me hear it big guy.
TheBestDefense says
Dat be one seriously over-inflated ego.
TheBestDefense says
Basile gave a shade under $1500 to GOP candidates for public office in the middle of the last decade, a fact that was well reported in the media and here on BMG. He actively campaigned with Kerry Healey in 2006 in Eastie. His political leanings have long been known to anybody who paid even cursory attention to his career machinations.
It seems that as a member of the legislature he learned to better cover his tracks. And it paid off with this thank you kiss from the great outsider, Charlie Baker.
chris-rich says
My friend came up with it. “Imagine someone convinced Rick Santorum that unions are fine and that he can best serve his constituents by being half in the bag by lunch time.”
That’s what squats on the top of the legislature with with trickle down nepotism carefully dispersed.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
Sorry TBD. I suggest you consult a neurologist because your comprehension skills are nil.
The significance of the Basile appointment is THE job he got. Not that he got A job. Carlo is now the gatekeeper for all the administrative law judges, board members, and commissioners who will make tens of thousands of decisions every year regarding permits, licenses, and who gets what. Jobs where opportunities for graft are huge. Is Carlos equipt to protect the governor from the screwballs out there? Just wondering.
Do you see the significance of my pos TBDt? Probably not. But thanks for pointing out Carlos support of Baker. Now what’s this I hear about O.J. killing some people?
TheBestDefense says
My comprehension skills are clearly better than yours, as is my memory. I know about Basile better than you and pointed out the details of why he got the plum. You simply missed the boat on the facts (again) and now rely on insults against someone who pointed out your failure. And throwing in OJ is your latest smoke screen/insult??? You used to be interesting although shallow on the details.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
I am real happy for you that you “know about Basile than” me. Good for you. But what the hell was your point? I explained my point )patronage secretary is not like other jobs). But dude, what the hell is your point? That Basile supported Baker? Duh, no shit Sherlock. So again, what was it you brought to the table?
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
?
TheBestDefense says
It seems that Artie T and his sisters closed on the sale of the store chain this afternoon. Everything from this point forward is his own for credit or criticism.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
Now Artie works for the creditors. Solvent again? When were they not solvent? Wow dude, what are you talking about.
You said it wrong.
“Everything from this point forward is his own for credit”….
You meant to say “everything he and his family own is now on credit from this point forward.”
I’m telling you TBD, you need to speak with a doctor. Your comprehension skills are worrisome.
johnmurphylaw says
and guilty pleasure. I check BMG to see the latest EB3 post.
And then I scroll down to see how long it takes Kirth to comment (whine) about EB3. Usually less than 12 hours. I’m sure, at some point, the juvenile nature of this phenomenon will grow tiresome. But for now, it’s fun!
EB3, you are spot on about Arthur T. Most of the media and general public drank the koolaid on this guy, along with the employees. A close read of the Demoulas family saga reveals that he is a classic narcissist. At some point, when he is unable to deliver on the false reality he created, he’ll have to find some bogeyman to blame the whole debacle on. Wait! I got it! It will be EB3’s fault!
The legend grows.
kirth says
is leeching off of my pastime. Which is leeching off of fakernie’s pastime. It’s leeches, all the way down! If you think I’m predictable in responding to his screeds, consider that I am trying to counterbalance the mods’ (or as it seems, one of the mods’) infatuation with him and his antics. I am tired of his being able to repeatedly insult and bully other site members, with nearly no consequence. If he stopped doing that, and stopped making claims to inside knowledge that he doesn’t have, I’d leave it alone. Of course, he’s not going to do that, because he’d have nothing to say.
WRT kool-ade, it appears that you’re the one who’s been drinking fakernie’s product. All the information he’s (and you’ve) based the vilification of ATD and doomsaying for MB on has been available to everyone, including “most of the media and general public,” but you guys have it right, and the rest of us have it wrong. Enjoy your voice-in-the-wilderness schtick. So far, fakernie has had Bill Kristol levels of accuracy on this MB story.
jconway says
Per the Salemnews
http://m.salemnews.com/news/local_news/it-s-official-market-basket-sale-finalized/article_ceb82935-8084-5956-b3d2-fca01bea6f09.html?mode=jqm
kirth says
Well, maybe not …
Schadenfreude. Now, a smart person would have walked away from a smoking wreck like Mr. Incredible’s previous Circus of Wrongness on the MB story and hoped that people would forget about it. Not our guy, though. He doubles down, insisting that his predictions of increased prices and ended benefits are not only going to happen, but are happening right now. Actual reporting of current events makes the soundtrack for his post an endless loop of Sad Trombone.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
I so sorry but i can’t change the facts that Artie T. stole his cousins shares of the business and the court made him pay it back.
Nor can we change the facts that Artie T unsucessfully orchestrated an illegal blackmail of a young law clerk in his failed attmept to keep his ill-gotten stock.
And it would take Superman backspinning the earth to change the facts that Artie offered to pay a person two million dollars to commit perjury in another slimy scheme gone bad.
And it’s a fact that his cousins sold their shares to him for TWO BILLION DOLLARS, most of it debt. DEBT.
Sorry Kirth but whatever Artie T did for you or me or his employees or customers he did it with his partners money. Other people’s money.
He can’t do that anymore AND HE HAS @ BILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT.
As of today it is a new ballgame and Artie will have to do what he is told.
No more real estate developemnt deals with his family either/
Anyway Kirth, what is your relationship to the thief and perjurer called Artie T.?
I mean he’s a scumbag but only the people he’s bought off (employees) refuse to see it. Cusotmers don’t care.
TheBestDefense says
The sale of MB is finalized as of this afternoon and his debt level will be better than most in the industry. I don’t know what that means for the long-term future of the company and if anybody posts here with a single answer that does not include his bona fides as an expert in the field, most of us should look at this back and forth as barely/badly informed speculation, but it seems the BMG mods like this sniping to be a central part of the site. Too bad since there is so much more that Dems could write about the new Baker administration, like whether DeLeo will let registered lobbyists and two felonious former Speakers of the House on the floor of the House chamber during the State of the State speech or the swearing in ceremony, and the growing chasms among Dems in Congress between the Warren populists and the Clinton/Schumer Wall Street ring.
And I still have not seen anything here about the fast track proposal for the Trans Pacific Pact on trade.
Christopher says
If you want to see a diary about TPP, the Baker administration, or House rules feel free to write one.
TheBestDefense says
I will be posting something I wrote on the TPP but am waiting until after the many analyses of the budget deal die down.
As to the House rules, I did make note of the impending events in January and thought that starting the discussion now is better than the teeth gnashing that will follow it. Maybe some of the BMG reading legislators will see it here and head it off, or maybe they will roll over and play dead, or worse yet, give a standing ovation as they did before to the two criminally convicted former Speakers who are both now paid lobbyists.
And yes, I did post real facts about the Baker admin’s newest hack appointment, and will continue to do so.
Thanks for the invitation to write, but I do not need it from you.
TheBestDefense says
You threw down the sword and I accept. You are a member of the Democratic State Committee, one of the stewards of our party. At the next DSC meeting, offer a motion to put the party on record to ban all paid lobbyists and all persons convicted of felonies of political corruption against the Commonwealth from entering the chambers of either legislative branch. Go ahead, be a man.
When the corrupt and criminal enter, we will know what you have done.
jconway says
Bashing EB3 for his personal insults and bad facts and now pretending Christopher can single handedly root corruption out of the state party simply by “being a man”, implying he isn’t much of one now. Your introduction to BMG has gotten off to a real stellar start.
TheBestDefense says
under a different name, thanks.
I responded in kind to Christopher’s needless challenge to me. Nobody who reads BMG needs an invitation to post, certainly not from him.
There is a great difference between simply writing and acting. Christopher asked the Democrats of his Senate district for the privilege of representing them. He has an opportunity to do so on the issue he challenged me to write about. I have written twice here on the subject of letting lobbyists and political criminals in the House chamber, and I have written about it in other places. We will see if he acts on the issue where he threw the challenge at me. As a former member of the DSC, I am well acquainted with the process and know it is difficult to raise thorny issues about fellow Democrats and especially the boys network in one of the ultimate insider game spots.
Nobody “single-handedly” accomplishes much of anything in a democracy. It requires stepping up when there is an opportunity and trying to gather the appropriate forces, much as you are admirably doing on the Olympics. We will see if Christopher does anything about it, again, after having challenged me on the subject.
BTW, I have not bashed EB3 for his personal insults. I did hit him for repeating what had already been reported by virtually every media outlet in MA, that Baker appointed a Democrat to be his chief hack overseer. That was not news. I pointed out that there was a reason Basile was chosen. If I really wanted to hit him hard, I would have noted that it is not just his dismissive point about plumbers, that there are over 700 boards and commissions that the Governor makes appointments to, including some that I expect are very important to your interests, like local development boards and housing authorities, in addition to the big ones like the Parole Board, the MBTA, all of the state professional regulatory boards and the retirement board.
Christopher says
…and to be honest I’m not sure I care whether former Speakers, even if felons, or lobbyists are on the House floor for the inauguration or the State of the Commonwealth, though the MDP platform does already have quite a bit to say about ethics and transparency. I didn’t challenge you to write because I think it needed to be written, but because YOU were the one who complained not enough was being written. Since anyone can post I don’t have much patience for the nobody has written about… complaints. (I also just now saw your comment, hence the delayed reply.)
TheBestDefense says
was found guilty of perjury in defending his guilt in violating the civil rights of racial and ethnic minorities in his redistricting scheme. I think that either one of the two charges should be grounds for barring him from entering one of the oldest halls of democracy on the planet (let alone a lifetime prohibition on being a lobbyist), where he can mingle and use his enormous skills (and let me assure you they are enormous, since you have not likely met him) to influence democracy.
You say “I’m not sure I care… even if felons… are on the floor of the House.” Now we know your standard.
And this makes my third post on the subject. It is not the case that nobody has written on the subject of corrupt pols, it is just that some people choose to not act. That would be you, attacking the messenger. Are you going to send an invitation to Diane Wilkerson to walk on the House floor when she is released from jail?
TheBestDefense says
“We want a transparent and ethical government.” I am underwhelmed.
I don’t think this is personal. I have been writing here since 2004 under a different name. You seemed to think that you can call people out, so I called you out. Ouch.
It is odd, as you have put positive marks on some of my other posts and I have done the same on a few of yours. We probably don’t disagree on the big issues, just on whether you act or sit at home.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
Here you are complaining that the blog shoud be about the Baker administration etc rather than this crap.
Once again you make it easy. The lead item in this post us Baker’s appointment of patronage secretary.
As for the longterm health of the how can u expect a company that never paid dividends but generous to employess and customers to go from zero debt to mortgaging the entire company and good chunks of the shareholders’ personal wealth and continue to operate the same.
Nobody is denying that things will have to change.
My God TBD, you talk the talk but fail terribly in walking the walk.
kirth says
MB never paid any dividends? Forbes says you’re wrong.
You just make this stuff up as you go along, don’t you?
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
shit for dividends relatively speaking. AND why do you iognore the court proven facts that Artie is a thief and an obstructionist of justice.
The who fight was over Artie T holding back money.
I satnd by my exagerated point of fact about dividends and my non-exagerated point of fact of Artie being a thief.
Like shooting scmucks in a barrell
TheBestDefense says
Bloomberg News, citing court documents, reports that $1.1 billion in total dividends has been paid since 2001, and since the Arthur S side of the family was a 50.5% owner, your figure sounds appropriate and possibly a little low.
It is certainly better than Arthur S. proposal to borrow over $1billion to pay additional dividends again the future profitability of the company, a classic example of vulture capitalism.
TheBestDefense says
Your comment about Basile was minor speculation with no details. That might earn you a spot in the comments section of the Herald web site but ain’t worth much compared to my quick response which, OMG, used facts.
And then you compounded your failures by lying about the payment of dividends by Market Basket. That is not just minor speculation, it is a lie. Mind you, I don’t much care about the MB issue but I do care when commentators here fabricate stories to mislead the BMG audience.
BTW, you do know who I am, you just don’t recognize me under this name. I assure you I did more in my life before the age of fifty than you will in your entire life. I have walked the walk since I was fifteen, not by insulting and lying, but by producing results.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
wgat details about Basile are u talking about. Telll me what u added and what i missed about Basile.
As for MB excuse me, he paid paltry dividends to shareholder and used the rest to help himself, friends, family, and employees. He’s a narcicist my friend.
But who cares. I want to hear more about you TBD. You sound to me like a loser and if I did Id you it would make sense.
Christopher says
…then you definitely haven’t gotten a lot of praise!:)
kirth says
I have no connection to the DeMoulas family. So far as I know, I’ve never even seen any of them. The closest I come to the business is that my son worked at a Market Basket when he was in high school. That was ten years ago. Also, I shop at MB. I had a nodding acquaintance with a checker at the Nashua store, but I don’t go to that one any more.
Now it’s your turn — why do you care so much about ATD and his grocery business that you keep trying to stir up shit about them? It’s like an obsession with you. Why?
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
he is a thief that habitually tried to corrupt the justice system by paying for perjury.
The courts determined these things, not me.
Bey he paid big money to lots of people to make sure the local media played up his false narritive while mentioning as little as possible his evil side.
The local media was a laughingstock nationally for portraying Artie as a cult of personality.
Money gets things done even for thieves.
kirth says
I’d really like to see some part of the nation laughing at local media over their MB reporting. If it was nationwide, it should be really easy to come up with a link or two, no? In the absence of some corroboration, this is just another patented fakernie assertion to bolster the BS claim that ATD somehow bought that local media..
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
the national ones reporting the dark side of Artie and wondering why the local media did not.
Kirth, really dude, is Artie sucking your you know what every night? Why the love for this evil man if you have no relationship.
kirth says
But you can kiss my ass. Still no links, no corroboration, no credibility, Mr. Incredible.
chris-rich says
And it’s for that last refuge of scoundrels, the crown jewel in the Rupert Murdoch empire.
As I mentioned below, at this point we’re stuck trying to figure out who’s ox is still gored. Of the three main cohorts, the affluent yuppie ditz faction has no dog in the fight and would rather flout purchases at whole foods in the spirit of ostentation.
And the disgruntled cohort of remnant working class and immigrant types who fetch dunkies for the affluent ditzes and try to survive the gouging imposed by the rent seeking classes are pitifully grateful that the family soap opera is over and they can resume saving bits of their pittances.
So that leaves us with the grifter cohort of old school grasping unions, real estate speculators who were on the wrong side of a trade and various ward heeler minions.
The shrill chicken little repetitions about the villainy of Arthur T in some kind of Elmer Fudd format don’t wash when the principal conflicting parties have settled and moved on.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
http://www.wsj.com/articles/holman-jenkins-the-market-basket-fairy-tale-1411770663?KEYWORDS=demoulas
http://www.forbes.com/sites/hollieslade/2014/09/10/inside-the-billionaire-family-feud-that-nearly-killed-market-basket/
Fron the Forbes Magazine article
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
n/t
Christopher says
…to discover that the WALL STREET Journal isn’t siding with a CEO who doesn’t play the corporate game!
kirth says
When fakernie finally gave us a link, it’s to an opinion column at the WSJ website. How very appropriate for Mr. Incredible to cite one of the least credible sources of information in the MSM — the WSJ opinion columns.
Christopher says
…which I’m sure isn’t exactly the mouthpiece of the 99% either. Maybe EB3 really is Mr. In-credible!
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
he hired Larry Rasky for just that reason
bob-gardner says
Until you come out from under that rock I will assume the worst.
chris-rich says
If you pause to think for a second, who could possibly give a shit about the Market Basket outcome? Who lost?
The “S’ side of the bickering family gets to waltz off into the sunset with enough money to make a down payment on Greece.
The T faction gets to go back to doing what it clearly loves with normal reasonably enthused investors who are likely to be thrilled to have a piece of a phenomenon in the dull world of supermarket retail instead of angry cousins out for blood money.
The employees get to count their bonuses and the customers get to count their savings. It’s a rare win/win all around except for one scuzzy slime faction… the teamsters.
They were the huge losers in the most striking labor action of my life time, one that left the teamsters in the cold as bald apologists and shills for the crap management team the S faction hastily shoved in there.
If you look at it from that angle, you can readily conclude that the ‘ernie dispatches’ amount to teamster gossip and venal fluff. And the mystery of the promotion of this colorful crap can be explained.
It is a misguided attempt to make sure the most treacherous and toxic union in the area has what amounts to ‘its say’.
I like unions, as a rule, especially the unions that protect workers at the low end of the employment totem pole, but not the teamsters, especially not here, where they cheat their way to the top and lost relevance decades ago.
As a unified field theory explanation for this supposedly colorful gibberish, it works well enough. Alternate theories are always welcome.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
That’s what I am because only a teamster would write what I write. Only someone with a grudge and the Teamsters have the biggest. They didn’t get two billion clams like Artie S. They didn’t even get to unionize the MB workers. Nope, they are pissed and this all about fanning union flames. Because that’s what I do.
Thanks chris. And remember to look for the union label.
putz!