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And you can read the lengthy explanation of why Obama=Hitler in this PDF.
Nonetheless, we haven't exactly heard a lot of the teabaggers decrying the LaRouchian tactics. And we have anecdotal evidence that there's some buy-in from GOoPers. So don't go all innocent on us, until you and your friends start actively denouncing what the LaRouchies are up to.
As David points out, we're still waiting for you to repudiate Rush and your free republic compatriots' comparison of Democrats to Nazis and Nancy Pelosi to Hitler.
~Ryan.
"Failure to plan is planning to fail." Proverb
Anywho, ya, at that event, it was the LaRouchians that brought the Nazi comparison lit. I have to support you there.
Sad thing is, the GOPers didn't shun them. That lit was in a lot of hands. Some tactics should not be encourage. The LaRouchians were emboldened by GOPer indifference, at best, and complicity, at worst.
PS. The Tsongas event had 300 people in the town hall and maybe, 600 stuck outside. I stayed outside to mix and mingle. The crowd outside was well mixed, though the anti-reformers were louder. Not so much to be unruly. I saw a couple of real hard chargers, but nothing worse than a carnival barker. The crowd was ruly.
I don't think anyone changed their mind today, but we heard each other loud and clear.
PPS. There is another town hall being put together in Hudson. I was told they are changing the venue to be able to accomodate more people.
Note to organizer: Rent a couple of porta-johns. A consensus formed from the echo of parrots, is no consensus. I'm Jack Mitchell and I'm confused by this message.
Better planning! Please. And as for the followers of Lyndon LaRouche - the first amendment leaves room for this kind of crack pottery - unfortunately I have had to deal with it since about 1967 and saw its ugly cult roots and destroyed lives so have no personal patience for this pseudo movement. Deborah Sirotkin ButlerAmberPaw dot @aol.com
That Chelmsford Market Basket is a very nice store, indeed, and I do not usually make the time to go there. Deborah Sirotkin ButlerAmberPaw dot @aol.com
My point is, any "reasonable" conservative would have avoided taking any material comparing Obama to Hitler so that they can hear "all sides of the argument"? It just shows how fringe many conservatives are that they actually take material from LaRouchians comparing Obama to Hitler--as a resource to learn about the health care issue.
At the event I attended, I spoke with people in line and before the event started and many brought up the concern that government would decide when old people would die and that they'd visit our houses every five years to see how our health is and whether we were to expensive to live--just like the Nazi's, they said. I heard a variation of those comments from many "mainstream" conservatives at the event. So there CLEARLY is a stream of consciousness from the conservatives that has created a fantasy scenario that frames Obama's attempts to fix the problems we have in our health care system with Hiltler. Wouldn't you agree Eabo?
An open mind is exactly what is needed these days and Healthcare is a great example. Rather then demonize protestors and criticism of the reform, why not listen to people's concerns? The authors of the reform bill have taken the stance that "this bill" is just great exactly as it is which may not be true.
If someone handed me a "birther" handout, a Bush-9/11 piece or a Obama/Hitler piece... I would take them and probaly read them all and then trash them (or show them to others as examples of kooks). Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"
In reality (or at least here on BMG), he was obsesssed with it and used its verification to justify all sorts of smears.
So nice try Huh but I would not lie since I have a long history here of being critical of the Edwards story being "ignored" for political reasons. Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"
PS No, I do not believe Obama is Hitler nor do I believe the issue about Obama's birth cert. I do however believe Obama is ideologically aligned with many far-left socialists be they famous or not and his goals are very different from people so it wouldn't be crazy for them to amplify their feelings ("George Bush hates black people") to make a point. Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"
Rather then demonize protestors and criticism of the reform, why not listen to people's concerns?
The problem is that these folks at the health care town meetings are not shouting concerns. They're shouting "boooo1!!!11!!1one!11!!1!juan!" and "Liar!!!1!11!" and "Read teh billz!!221!!1!". Their boorish behavior isn't about expressing concerns or asking questions -- it's about shouting down their elected representative for the sake of being nasty with misplaced anger, confusion, and uncertainty.
Although the Republican mainstream consistently overflows its right bank, and although the LaRouchies may flow from the same source somewhere upstream, they are decidedly different tributaries. A rose by any other name is still a rose by another name.
A rose by any other name is still a rose by another name.
I always avoid them, but I am tempted to say, "Do you know your leader is a convicted felon?"
