Professional lobbyists, and especially those working on what the BMG community would characterize as progressive causes, know that Speakers come and go. And for that matter so do Senate Presidents and Governors. And many of us have reasons to be thankful of recent changes.
As a matter of standard practice, however,the political and personal dynamics within and between each Chamber and the Executive Department is simply information to be collected, understood and leveraged to advance positive policy change. Not judged.
That’s what all lobbyists work for — to snatch a win out of the inevitable whirl of personal and political agendas. And not talk about it in public unless it’s to say thank you.
I have a hard time understanding folk, including many commentators on BMG, who stand outside the public policy arena counting up the character flaws and characterizing the misadventures of key players as criminal corruption in ways that really discourage community activists from engaging in advocacy.
Come on commentators! Get into the public policy arena for a while. You’ll find most legislators are regular hard working human beings who want, more than anything else in the world, to bring a measurable positive change to a critical mass of their constituents — and get credit for it. That’s the Hero Opportunity they are looking for, and maybe, if you can do the hard work of organizing and mobilizing a good campaign, you can provide it for them. The anti- casino forces, did, the gay marriage folk did, the anti death penalty folk did, the choice folk did.
I will leave it to others to list the good campaigns and victories of the forces of darkness and evil.
amberpaw says
…no exceptions at all. Every single legislator has real problems they care about and are trying to solve. Truly. Every single one.
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p>And respond really well to the words “thank you” [and can tell mostly if those thanks are sincere, I bet] – and to hard work on a cause by folk like you and I.
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p>That all being said, the pressures and temptations and lack of privacy [what I call “the goldfish bowl”] and irregular – often long – often weekend hours do take a real toll. For example, the session on Friday 5/2/08 ended after midnight on 5/3/08. Ouch!
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p>So my wish list [The Perfect Speaker post] was not intended as a criticism of anyone, but rather focused on what kind of man or woman would have the least baggage and the most strength should they take upon themselves the tough, exciting, and important [to us all] role of Speaker. Which, by the way, pays $85,000.00 last time I looked – less than a high school principal, or a first year associate at even a mid-sized law firm [and WilmerHale starts them at $165,000 – or so I am told].
judy-meredith says
You have a long record of not only fighting the good fight, but doing it with a smart savvy campaign and winning.
dunster says
Are they committed to their jobs, or committed to their jobs so long as it gets them a shot at the next level up in the government?
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p>Are they interested in doing good things in general, or is it that good things are a temporary match for their career goals?
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p>Please don’t bother replying with examples of good legislators. I know there are good ones. I’m trying to refute the pollyanna argument that they are all good – it’s obviously untrue.
laurel says
you’re not the first person who has spoken critically of legislators who may see a career after the state house. and i wonder, why shouldn’t legislators be as ambitious or career-minded as anyone else? if someone gets elected merely as a stepping stone to something better, but does a good, ethical and impartial job while they’re in the state house, why should we care?
amberpaw says
To listen to some folk, if a legislator lists their profession as legislator – that is bad.
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p>These folks are just plain too critical! As far as they are concerned, whether a public servant is committed to public service for life, or is willing to work under extreme pressure, with no privacy, and a modest level of payment for a set time, and then moves on – THESE hyper critical folks will attack them – either way!
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p>I admit to finding the willingness of some to attack everything, and have nothing positive to propose ever hard to understand, and not at all admirable.
mcrd says
William Delahunt and Marty Meehan. The poster boys of sleezy politics.
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p>The problem on Beacon Hill is that you have a one party system. It is the speakers way or the highway. Quid pro Quo, and what’s in it for me. The only speaker that ran things with a pretty eaven hand was George Keverian, and they squashed him like a bug, albeit–a big bug. Massachusetts politics has been so corrupted by unions and special interest groups that no one is safe. But that is the government we put in power and that is what we deserve.
christopher says
Marty Meehan has served as quite well, thank you very much! If he still wanted to move back into politics for a US Senate seat or something there is an excellent chance that I would support him.
lodger says
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christopher says
I believe his mistake was to make the pledge in the first place, but everyone has the right to change their mind. He did run in 2000 and term limits was an issue, but Meehan won by a signficant margin. Ditto for 2002, 2004, and 2006. The voters clearly have decided it was a nonissue. I believe that issues are no longer valid once voters have repeatedly and clearly said they don’t care. It’s like going after Ted Kennedy for Chappaquidick even now after seven re-elections since then.
lodger says
doesn’t make it right. It says as much about the voters as it does Mr Meehan. I’ll assume these are the same voters who never let us forget George H W’s “no new taxes” pledge. They’ll let their own guy do it, but not anyone from the other team. Hypocrites all.
christopher says
I for one also believe that Bush’s bigger mistake was making the pledge in the first place rather than breaking it later, just like I said for Meehan. I’m sure MA would have gone for Clinton with or without that particular pledge. I’m glad Bush made the compromise he did, but have other reasons to favor Clinton.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
He’s the kind of Guy that your sister marries and you and your brothers just want to beat the crap out of him from the day you meet him to the day the last guy dies. Every holiday and first communion half the conversation is how much he sucks, he standing in the next room, and he is clueless. So isn’t your sister. Because we love her. We hate him. And we love his kids. and he’s a good father. And bblah blah.. And we still hate his freakin guts.
And himn being a congressman or any kind of big shot make us hate him more. Not because he’s a big shot. But because he is the worse kind of guy t make a big shot out of.
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christopher says
This is one of the most childish comments I have seen on BMG, hence the “worthless” rating. For what it’s worth he always polled quite well.
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But I mean it.
lanugo says
And you deserve to be commended for reminding us of the good things and good people that do them on Beacon Hill. Most legislators are hard working, committed and well intentioned – at least the ones I’ve known.
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p>That all said, and considering the House in particular, there is a huge power imbalance between leadership and membership. While we progressives exploit that imbalance when it suits our goals (we shouldn’t naively be purist about achieving our ends), we should also recognize that the imbalance exists and that the concentrated power of leadership can have some severely negative consequences that work against our aims.
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annem says
Thank you lanugo! I agree wholeheartedly with your comment:
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p>Our state and our country have become such a dysfunctional mess b/c we the people do not take active responsibility for the mess around us. I have no desire to fight other “progressives” but if they’re acting as a wolf in sheep’s clothing, that is hurting people and cannot stand. It’s time for a change! How to begin that change?
judy-meredith says
Thanks…..just trying to lend a balanced view. I am deeply concerned about the lack of public confidence in our government. And trying to do something about that with ONE Massachusetts.
lanugo says
And as someone who also considers myself a fan of the role and history of the legislature, I guess I just worry about the place and wish it could be more than what it is. Their is a lost of talent up there that is not used effectively and members are, I think, too quiescent in letting leadership serve as judge and jury, particularly in the House.
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farnkoff says
who are concerned with civil rights, homelessness, poverty, or even education is one thing. Enjoying free vacations, nice dinners, tickets to ballgames, special favors, generous mortgage arrangements, and generally having a wicked good time due to the attentions of big corporations, banks, and assorted affluent individuals and entities who have business before the state and who are accostomed to things “going their way” is something else. This is what I see a lot of legislators doing- having a great time at a party that the vast majority of us poor slobs will never be invited to. Government for sale to the highest bidder, to the everlasting detriment of anybody who can’t afford a $500 plate at the “Who’s Who in MA’ annual brunch. This is how Cheney, Bush, and all those scumbags at the national level operate, and when Democrats try to pull the same tricks it’s just as wrong, even if they throw your own little club (whatever that happens to be) a bone from time to time.
peter-porcupine says
Any legislator accepting anything worth more than $50 has broken the law. So the mortgages, trips, etc., to which you refer are banned.
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farnkoff says
themselves about public policy alternatives, not merely listening to various mercenaries, since making laws is supposed to be their full-time job. If they don’t have the energy or inclination to do so then what are they doing in government to begin with? Of course, their fate ultimately rests with the voters so it’s dumb to complain too much, I guess.
amberpaw says
No legislator can read it ALL or be an expert in everything. Plus, as a back bencher you get one staffer. That would still make it 4000 proposed laws each!
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farnkoff says
Those troublesome areas of law “where there are no paid lobbyists because no one would pay them to care.” The Big Money pays the lobbyists, the lobbyists devise “technical objections” to laws that might hurt their corporate clients in the interest of helping the common folk, the legislators listen to the lobbyists’ objections, and quietly vote against progressive legislation. Meanwhile, there’s nobody except volunteer do-gooders to advocate for the poor and the chronically screwed. So bills that might address (for example) imbalances in judicial outcomes, sentencing reform, or increasing funding for public defenders get ignored and die a quiet death. Money buys you a voice, a seat at the table, which in turn leads to laws that protect and augment your supply of money, thus lending you the ability to hire more lobbyists, facilitating the accumulation of more influence, and so on ad nauseum.
That said, I don’t know what the answer is, and you can consider this post merely my own form of lobbying for politicians to pay less attention to business interests, the correctional officers’ union, the prison builders’ association, etc. I’ll have to compile a more complete list of my likes and dislikes for you when I get a chance.
annem says
Farnkoff, You’ve done a valuable service laying out the dynamics of moneyed-interests that have almost thoroughly corrupted our political process and made it such a depressing farce (farce: ridiculous or empty show; mockery).
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eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
have lobbyests too Farnkoff. Just like the mob has accountants and plumbers. You just need them at certain times.
dcsohl says
The only concern I have with lobbyists is that I don’t have one.
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amberpaw says
Which requires self education.
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peter-porcupine says
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
about the various people who do what yopu do for various things.
judy-meredith says
where you could get the complete list of registered lobbyists and their clients and their fees. Meanwhile you can check our lobbyists by subject area or last name at the Secretary of State's Lobbyist Search site.
ryepower12 says
There’s a not-so-subtle difference between Bush and Cheney vs. your local representative. Your local representative probably may not be recognized at her own supermarket; it isn’t nearly as glorious as you’d think. Your local rep also has to deal with his or her name being yellowed in the papers, and with callers every day both sane and not. Oh, and they have to run for reelection every two years – which means campaigning never, ever, ever truly stops.
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peabody says
Nonprofits often do good, but sll too often their staff and executive directors do very well!
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mcrd says
Grants and government subsidy’s for essentially doing nothing. The exceptions are the Home for Little Wanderers and two or three others. The remainder are nothing but parastic LICSW’s, MA’s, and Phd’s who couldn’t make a real living if their lives depended on it.
farnkoff says
which is probably part of the problem. There should be term limits for the Speakership and Senate Presidency, lest people become too comfortable and forget that they work for the People of Massachusetts.
lasthorseman says
To explain me would take a book. Born here, raised here, Boy Scout, patent holder, private pilot and current observation officer of the Biblical End Times.
The rhetoric does turn people off as I try to convey to the widest audience possible that whole institutions have been compromised and it is more than people and political ideologies.
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p>In this very short venue I may have some wondering why I am not on prozac or something and some are saying no make that something far stronger.
The latest key in the information war is David Rothkofpt and the book Superclass. It is about globalization and it’s effects. He may turn out to be the establishment’s Al Gore of global government. Not sure yet but I don’t think this will be a good thing.
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judy-meredith says
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p>the policy arena will just go on missing your penetrating and informed opinions. Might have been helpful in persuading a policy maker or two to make an informed decision you agreed with.
justinian says
Perhaps your belief is that those who post here do little work on Beacon Hill, and that we just sit off to the sides and throw bombs, and that we should appreciate that law-making is a dirty business, in which we should all engage.
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justinian says
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid know well that they must give their members a series of wins to run on. If they don’t, they may lose their majority. This provides a powerful incentive to perform that is simply missing in Massachusetts.
randolph says
Frustration is understandable, but check the scorecard. In the past few years alone, our legislature passed a health reform that has provided insurance to about 300,000 more individuals, protected gay marriage, raised the minimum wage, and named hundreds of bridges and gazebos after people we’ve never heard of.
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mcrd says
annem says
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randolph says
It’s not about settling Ann. It’s about continually moving forward. Get what you can now and go back for more. That is exactly how the civil rights movement pressed forward over a century and through tremendous setbacks.
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annem says
And I, too, take offense at your comments branding me as an elitist and out of touch just because I have a Master’s degree (in Oncology and HIV/AIDS nursing). Do I need to “prove” my right to being outraged by our current murderous healthcare system? One person’s hyberbole and grudges are anohter’s moral outrage and infuriation about corruption that kills people and is aided by so-called progressives and health reform “advocacy “groups”.
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mcrd says
It isn’t a frat house? I’ve been around for 63 years. I beg to differ with you and I believe Mark Twain has some apt observations re our congress. The present congress is an absolute joke. Since Pelosi too over—USA has been in freefall.
jaybooth says
Are you high?
sabutai says
I would add that so often objections are raised to the means, when really they’re objecting to the ends. Take DiMasi’s two high-profile victories over the last year and a half — marriage equality and casino gambling. We both applauded those victories because we agreed with the outcome (a good number of us, at least). But geez, there was a strong core of support for marriage discrimination and for state casinos, yet the issues went nowhere.
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p>The same exercise in arm twisting, influence peddling, and gamesmanship that killed those bills is now killing a lot of things that folks around here like. Suddenly, the same MO that protected equality is verboten because it’s protecting something commentators don’t like. To be an effective speaker takes some unsavory characteristics, I would wager. I’m not saying Denny Hastert is an ethically admirable man, but he was a Speaker who didn’t do much in terms of building and selling “the deal” — which is to say, he was speaker in name only.
mcrd says
Ms pelosi on the other hand is lsot. personally, I think a speaker should have an agenda like a presidency and a governorship. Make it know up from what your agenda is up front and what you want to accomplish. Advise whips, minority leaders etc what you are looking for and what doesn’t really turn you on. That way everything isn’t a guessing game. Stuff that is middle of the road or mundane can get taken care of when the time comes.
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p>Right now, the US Senate and House of Representatives have been at a standstill for a loooooong time and now the MA House is in civil war. Doesn’t make the elecorate particularly enthusiastic. Speaking for all aforementioned, it speaks volumes that so many people are retiring or simply bailing out.
heartlanddem says
It seems incumbent upon me to remind myself that Legislators are human beings with assets and faults galore, just like the rest of us. Watching the drama around Patrick, then DiMasi and the expediency in which they are criticized (which is different than being “held accountable”) is really breathtaking.
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p>I am not inclined to throw either under the bus, although I have grave disagreements with some of the Governor’s policies and actions and reservations about the absence of a pristine public image by the Speaker.
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p>I love both of them more than Romney and Finneran. How soon we forget.