Where is the outrage about Deval Patrick’s involvement in the subprime mortgage mess, Deval’s $300,000 salary from Ameriquest for attending a monthly meeting, Deval’s approval of a $50 million severance to the guy trying to reform Ameriquest, and Deval’s attempt to save Ameriquest by calling Robert Rubin while Deval was Governor of Massachusetts?
Are those misdeeds (to say the least) really more offensive than Charlie Baker receiving a salary increase after saving Harvard Pilgrim.
All you libs need to get off your high horse about Jeff Perry and his actions 20 years ago if your not going to be equally outraged at Deval Patrick’s role in destroying the mortgage system and ruining the lives of literally millions of Americans (ie Ameriquest’s customers)!!!
is that there’s no new information about Ameriquest now compared to 4 years ago. There’s new info about Perry. Also, another difference is that Deval hasn’t lied about anything regarding Ameriquest.
There is about Ameriquest. There isn’t about Perry. Everything the victim of Scott Flanagan said yesterday she said during the trial. It was released in June. Everything.
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p>What we learned today about Ameriquest is that as 1/5 of the Board Deval Patrick gave a $50 million golden parachute to the CEO who wanted to do the right thing. But Deval sided with the Arnalls.
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p>By the way how many people have lost their homes in Massachusetts due to Deval Patrick and ACC? Maybe we’ll find out soon.
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p>David the SEIU was absolutely right (wow did I just say that) in 2006 when they attacked Patrick on Ameriquest. He is a sleazy sub prime lender and I think you know that.
HAHAHAHAHA Oh EaBo, you do make me laugh sometimes. That’s what I love about ya, ya big lug.
The DGA in 2006 spent $230,000 to fund Patriot Majority in Massachusetts. The only money they spent in that race. Who for the one and only time gave money to the DGA in 2006 when 1/5 of their board was running for Governor of Massachusetts? If you guessed Ameriquest, you’d be right.
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p>Care to guess how much they gave?…..
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p>…. If you guessed about $223K you’d be absolutely right. So basically Ameriquest funded the DGA portion of the Patriot Majority’s spend in 2006 in Massachusetts. That must give you a fuzzy feeling David, you being against Soft and Corporate Money and all, the nations second largest Sub-Prime predatory lender funded your guy’s negative campaign against Kerry Healey.
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p>Facts suck don’t they David?
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p>http://www.opensecrets.org/527…
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I give you credit for diligence and creativity.
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p>But it doesn’t work. Why not? Because $170,708 of the money Ameriquest gave to the DGA in that cycle, or 77% of the total, was given on or before March 31, 2006 (and of that amount, only about $69,000 was given while Patrick was on the board). As of that date, as you may recall, Deval Patrick was far from a sure thing to win the Democratic nomination. The smart money at that time remained on Tom Reilly, or perhaps on Chris Gabrieli and his millions – the only people who thought Deval could win at that point were a bunch of moonbats on some “blog” thingy. So if your argument is that Ameriquest was spending money on the DGA to try to put their ex-board member in office, no dice. All of that is of course in addition to your total lack of ability to show any actual connection between the Ameriquest donations to DGA and DGA’s funding of Patriot Majority. (Is it really such a shock that the DGA might spend money trying to help a Democrat win a race for Governor? Isn’t that what they’re supposed to do?) The coincidence that the amounts are fairly close doesn’t really get you very far.
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p>There’s also the inconvenient fact that Ameriquest also gave about $88,000 to the Republican Governors Association in the 2006 cycle, $11,000 of it while Patrick was still on the board. (So the imaginary board meeting that’s in your conspiracy-minded little head must’ve gone something like this: “Patrick: hey guys, thanks for trying to buy the election for me, but let’s give 11 grand to the Republicans too, just to be fair.” Ha.) As with the DGA, the 2006 cycle is apparently the only time the company gave money to the RGA. Ameriquest may well have donated to other Republican groups in the 2006 cycle too, but sadly for me, offhand I don’t know the names of the pro-GOP groups who participated in the MA 2006 election. Maybe you can help me out with that.
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p>There’s also the further inconvenient fact that, just before Patrick stepped down from the Ameriquest board, they paid out over $300 million to settle nationwide predatory lending charges – an amount that is about 1,000 times more than the amount they spent on the DGA and RGA combined. Patrick himself played a major role in that settlement. But I suppose you aren’t interested in giving him any credit for that.
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p>Like I said, points for creativity and diligence. But this old dog won’t hunt now, any more than it did in 2006.
Argent was part of ACC and they didn’t settle.
1:10 of this video. Ameriquest kept their predatory lending up after Deval “fixed it”. Patrick played a tremendous role in this economic downturn. Let us know what Doug Rubin sends you in response to this.
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I haven’t heard one word from Doug (or anyone else in the campaign) on Ameriquest. I’m quite capable of looking up Open Secrets myself, thank you very much.
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p>And the notion that Deval Patrick “played a tremendous role in this economic downturn” is, quite simply, laughable. But hey, peddle it all you want, while your candidate fades in the polls. It’s not going to convince anyone of anything, because among other things it is patently untrue.
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p>Equally? I don’t think you understand. Jeff Perry was complicit in a child molestation for God’s sake. He was standing fifteen feet away and did nothing to stop it. There are few things in life which have a moral equivalence that deep in hell; subprime mortgages are not amongst them.
as an accomplice to that crime? Where was he held responsible in a court of law? Ever? Just asking?
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p>Also Gerry Studds actually molested male pages and even though it was known Democrats still supported and worked for him.
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p>Deval Patrick is personally responsible for thousands of our neighbors losing their homes through his shady mortgage practices. But hey he supports your agenda so fall right in line behind him.
with Perry standing 15 feet a way from a 14 year old girl getting sexually molested and doing nothing?
Do you know how many other people were at the scene? Was it just Flanagan Allen and Perry. Or were there other people suspected of wrongdoing that Perry could have been with. Could Perry have been searching a car? 15 feet with his mind on other things is a long way aways.
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p>How many 14 year olds don’t get very emotional during a possible arrest. While he was dealing with other people could it be he didn’t see.
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p>Scenes where there are police actions are often times very hectic.
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p>And what does it have to do with Gerry Studds. Gerry Studds actually molested children. And the Democrats kept helping him be re-elected. While the cases are different Studds is much worse.
Well, gosh EaBo, I don’t know. Maybe if Perry would actually tell the truth about what happened that night, it would clear up that question. Wouldn’t that be easier?
Wouldn’t the girl have seen him if he was just standing there watching? Of course he was dealing with the other kids and searching the cars and stuff. Have you ever seen cops when they get the notion to search a bunch of kids and their cars for drugs? That’s all they care about, they get on their hands and knees, they lie on the ground, they go through every piece of trash and clothing. They don’t get all interested in seeing a 14 year old’s chest.
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http://www.capecodonline.com/a…
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p>Why would Perry have to state this when it is in the public record David. It was an active investigation scene with three other suspects. Perry was the supervising officer. Is it really beyond the realm of probability, never mind possibility that Perry just didn’t see what happened even being 15 feet away. Put yourself 15 feet across a room from someone. Put six other people flashing cop lights and cars in between. Then try to see what the person 15 feet away is doing while you are talking to someone else.
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p>For you on the left to basically say Jeff Perry was watching Flanagan diddle a 14 year old girl and cheer it on is disgusting and is the worst form of political discourse.
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HA! Thanks for putting words in my mouth and then calling it “the worst form of political discourse.” Of course, I have never said anything like your little invented paraphrase, and I defy you to prove me wrong on that one.
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p>What I have said, and what is incontestable at this point, is that Perry has made numerous, shall we say, “misstatements” about this incident over the years, and he just can’t get his damn story straight. Michael Graham, who likes Perry and still plans to vote for him, called them “statements that were clearly not true.” Ouch. Senator Tarr, Christy Mihos, and Graham have all explicitly called on him to start being truthful. But he won’t – he’s dug in, and the voters and the media are onto him.
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p>I’ll repeat what I said to you ages ago: this guy is bad news, and you should have bailed on him long before now. Honestly, if he were a Democrat with the same record, you would have been screaming and howling non-stop about his character, and you KNOW that’s the truth. At this point, there’s a good chance that he will not only lose his own race, but he will also cost Charlie Baker a couple of points that Baker clearly cannot afford. He may even wind up hurting Scott Brown and Mitt Romney in 2012.
but the drumbeat is certainly insinuating it not isn’t it. Words like child molester enabler.
would just do what Graham, Tarr, and other Republicans are practically begging him to do, he could go a long way toward ending the “drumbeat” that you find so troublesome.
one of the three of you said it on twitter.
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p>Yep ya did. Ya retweeted someone lying that Perry stood there and watched. which he didn’t.
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said that Perry has never done anything wrong. Yep ya did.
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Thank you for reminding us that Jeff Perry was Scott Flanagan’s commanding officer. It was Jeff Perry’s job to see, that’s called command responsibility.
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p>Regarding your attempt to defend Scott Flanagan’s criminal behavior, you seem to forget that he has already been investigated. He plead guilty. He did abuse Lisa Allen. So, if nothing else, can we please remember that this criminal sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl did happen.
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p>All these lies, distortions, and speculations about searches, drugs, and teenage behavior colossally misses the point: Scott Flanagan committed a crime and was incarcerated because of it.
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p>What we know, now, is that the accusations that Jeff Perry was on the scene come directly from the victim.
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p>Yes, it is true that Jeff Perry was never accused or prosecuted for his role in this crime. That, in itself, speaks to the sincerity of the betrayal felt and now expressed by Lisa Allen. It is also true that Jeff Perry resigned from the force a mere 17 days after the final episode with Scott Flanagan. I don’t know how much time you’ve spent on the inside of local government in a town like Wareham, but that resignation sounds to me a lot like it was Jeff Perry’s part in an arrangement made between the town and, say, the parents of one or both of these women — the perpetrator pleads “guilty”, the perpetrator’s CO resigns, and the parents drop further complaints.
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p>I think we’re learning that 30 year old woman thankfully has a great deal more power than a 14 year old girl on a dark night in a cranberry bog. I think we’re learning that crimes like this leave an indelible mark on their victim.
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p>I, for one, am heartened to see that Lisa Allen is finally able to bring a measure of accountability to the behavior of a despicable Sargeant named “Jeff Perry” — and to the equally despicable moral choices made by the desperate people who would put that still-unrepentant enabler in national office fifteen years later.
is simply that Massachusetts voters seem to be surprisingly–and apparently selectively– forgiving of some pretty reprehensible acts in their politicians. Studds is simply an example of the phenomenon, and there are others, as you know, including some rather revered Massachusetts Democratic stalwarts.
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p>In this respect, it is hard to regard all of the outrage over this incident to be anything other than political grandstanding. In a sense, the “never charged/convicted!” vs. “criminal!” theater is like the way that the filibuster alternates between being a pillar of the Republic and an existential threat to the American system, depending on which party presently has a majority in the Senate.
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p>Posters here don’t oppose Perry because he “tolerated a child molester” but because he is a Republican making a genuine challenge to what is supposed to be a safe Democratic seat. This incident is simply a weapon close to hand. Doubtless the Perry supporters now minimizing this fishy incident fervently wish that Josiah Spaulding had picked this cudgel up when it was available to him.
The first instinct which many people had was disbelief, I don’t recall anyone jumping on this. Instead there were a lot of people who just didn’t know the background. I do recall the first post and comment that I didn’t believe the story. But slowly more details were brought forward and in the beginning many users here posted that it wasn’t enough. I agreed with them. But Perry shifting stories and only response by Republicans was it happened a while ago (maybe something to think about that when re-reading your own post.)
that he wouldn’t be the first Massachusetts politician with an ugly incident like this that gets elected anyway, and that people seemed quite willing to overlook this stuff for his predecessors in this regard. The statements of their supporters over the years, as the incidents were called up from time to time by political opponents, are not easily distinguishable from the statement issued by Senator Brown.