To date, Hillary Clinton has won 2 1/2 million MORE votes than Bernie Sanders and 1 million MORE votes than il Douche the Loser.
Or, as Aldous Huxley said : ” Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.”
And in closing : ” All of us are entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts.” DANIEL PATRICK MOYNIHAN
So, in a democracy where the majority rules, isn’t it hypocritical to claim you speak for the people BEFORE all the people’s votes have been counted ?
Fred Rich LaRiccia
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doubleman says
What is this in reference to?
Also, the Moynihan quote is not accurate.
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
fredrichlariccia says
so if you have a problem take it up with the QUOTE POLICE FORCE and the COURT OF CORRECT QUOTES. LOL
This is in reference to nothing specifically but everything generally.
Have a nice day 🙂
Fred Rich LaRiccia
kbusch says
If you’re going to make quotations of the famous a centerpiece of your diaries and comments, why not at least take the trouble to get them right? It’s pretty goofy to have a string of inaccurate quotes, and it undermines their effect if your reader’s first response is now to check them.
Or maybe you don’t respect Moynihan enough to care about getting his words right?
Trickle up says
bet you remember who said that.
merrimackguy says
What is the point of typing anything when the posts have no meaning?
He’s basically a troll that most people agree with.
Peter Porcupine says
…it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less…it is just a question of who is to be master
petr says
…when I word a use, it means to choose a mean, question who is master and not to question who is to be just less… or just more confused (not being my problem who understands what I mean)
The one word you’ve chosen most carefully, namely your name here, means both more (as a gesture to someone else’s writings) and less (anonymity, or a stripping of your identity) than just what you choose it to mean. That’s exactly why you choose it.
Peter Porcupine says
I was quoting Carroll to illustrate Fred’s attitude about the accuracy – or lack thereof – of a quote. But yeah, I guess I can be profound too!
johntmay says
Running up points in a basketball game, no matter how high, still counts as one “win”. So yeah, Hillary had huge numbers in southern states….states that, by the way, vote RED.
Christopher says
Should we discount the wishes of Dems who live in the “wrong” states?
doubleman says
In terms of how we structure the primary calendar, we probably should.
Christopher says
I would prefer to find a nominee who maybe CAN play on the opposite turf.
jconway says
Sanders has won plenty of red states too and you guys celebrate when he does, whether it’s Idaho or Utah last night or a place like Kansas during one of the last rounds. The Deep South is where many of the primaries black voters are, and no, they shouldn’t be disenfranchised or ignored. It’s too bad Bernie couldn’t do better there, but let’s not blame the voters of color who soundly rejected him. Neither Clinton nor Sanders will be carrying any Romney states in the fall.
Christopher says
There are some interesting polls I’ve previously linked that if they hold could manifest some surprises.
ryepower12 says
large African American and minority populations that could go ahead of the southern states.
It’s ridiculous how front-loaded the southern states are in the Democratic Party’s primary process.
Also, there’s a big astroturf issue that you face when you comment on these kinds of things now.
jconway says
This is the only meaningful presidential vote those African Americans will make, outside of NC, FL or VA. I for one am glad that blacks in Mississppi have to be courted by somebody at least every four years.
Don’t complain about the process, complain about the fact that your candidate began this outreach really late in his career. And I say this having voted for him and agreeing that on the issues and his record he is better than the Clinton’s on social and racial justice. But boy did he not build bridges for decades that he should’ve.
Christopher says
How many African Americans live in Vermont, again?:)
doubleman says
Even if that nominee was a conservative Dem who crushed in the red states and just did fine in swing states and blue states? That seems likely a risky person to back in the general. I don’t think it changes anything this year, but I think strong performances in the states that are critical in November should be considered more than strong performances in states a Dem can never win.
ryepower12 says
but should we front-load those voices in the primary process, to the exclusion of most other Democratic-leaning states?
Christopher says
I believe for states with primaries rather than caucuses the dates are usually set by state law.
terrymcginty says
Reagan paraphrase #1: ‘Facts are very stubborn things.’
Reagan paraphrase #2: ‘I was driving along the Maine coast…’
Reagan paraphrase #3: ‘Mr. Gorbachev: TAKE DOWN THIS WALL!’
Reagan paraphrase #4: ‘I did not trade weapons for hostages.’
Reagan paraphrase #5: ‘ ‘Mommy told me not to have a meeting since Scorpio is in retrograde.’
Do the two quibblers really have nothing better to do?
mike_cote says
Retrograde is the appearance of a planet traveling backward against the display of the stars behind caused by two planets which have orbits that are relatively close to each other, and the inner planet passing the outer planet thus giving the appearance of the planet retreating (similar to a car passing another car on the highway, which makes the car that was passed going backwards.
NOT TO QUIBBLE BUT: As such, only Mercury, Venus and Mars can truly be seen to be in retrograde with the naked eye. Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus can also be in retrograde but the effect is nearly impossible to see, and end up looking as if the planet is standing still.
kbusch says
ask you the same question.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
Facts aren’t helping Hillary. This race is all about emotion.