This is an update on an old post. This system is a bit buggier than I had hoped. I beg your patience — we’ll all come round right eventually.
- I’ve disabled comment editing, since a bug was found. I’m trying to get answers from the plugin maker.
- Also heard a complaint about IP addresses in the comment email notification.
- We’ve got likes/dislikes and identification.
- I’ve heard a request for one’s profile page to include comments.
If I can’t get satisfaction on some of the security issues, I may scrap this comment plugin and it’ll return to something more bare-bones. I know the rating is a popular feature, and obviously I would love to continue it.
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OK, uprating/downrating, formatting, and — limited-time comment editing! You have 15 minutes to edit your comment — then it’s permanent.
If we pay a little $ we can identify likers/dislikers like before. See how this system works for you — including site performance — and we’ll consider it.
hesterprynne says
Trying this out (take 2)
hesterprynne says
15-minute editing function works. Now trying a link — to Josh Marshall’s post on yesterday’s events Into the Abyss.
petr says
Question: if a comment is edited (within the 15min window) does the window start again from zero (whole nother window?) or do you get only what’s left of the original 15?
Charley on the MTA says
I think we may have to discover that from trial and error.
stomv says
It would be nice if there was a little indication that the post was edited, including time. I’m concerned about a situation like:
12:00 stomv posts something ign’ant
12:03 christopher sees it, begins rightfully calling me out on it, but is wordy
12:04 stomv sees the error of his ways, edits it
12:05 stomv’s edit is complete
12:08 christopher finally hits submit, but now his comment makes no sense because there’s no evidence that stomv changed his comment
Thoughts?
hesterprynne says
Hmm. Might not be a bad thing for a lot of reasons to get into the habit of waiting 15 minutes before commenting.
Charley on the MTA says
Welp … we can change the time limit for editing, but I think whatever limit we chose, we’d have the same problem you describe. As for adding features, we’re pretty much done with custom software. This system is cheap and out-of-the-box, so if it works pretty well, it satisfies 2/3 of fast/cheap/good.
stomv says
My suggestion is reduce from 15 minutes to 5. That gives enough time for folks to fix their poor HTML tags or spelling, but not so much time that we end up with nearly as many out-of-sync responses.
hesterprynne says
That makes sense to me.
Charley on the MTA says
Yeah we don’t have that setting. 15 mins, or longer, or nothing. You’ll be alright. 🙂
johntmay says
Nice!
Trickle up says
So did I get censored for calling James Comey a bad word in a comment on Mark Bail’s diary?
That is, I did get censored, but was it by one of Ye Editors or was it a ‘bot?
Not complaining, just want to know.
Charley on the MTA says
It was me. Trying to keep it clean … Things go downhill quickly, as you know. Not that I don’t share the sentiment.
“Don’t read the comments” — no, we really *want* people to read the comments.
Christopher says
I’m having a hard time imagining which word was so bad as to warrant deletion unless there are new standards. I’ve seen the F-word and SH-word used here (thankfully not super often) which are IMO by far the most offensive words in the English language. Their use in a comment stops me from uprating even when I otherwise agree on the merits, though I might give such a comment a 5 when it otherwise would have gotten a 6 under the Soapblox system.
Trickle up says
You know me, Christopher—such a potty mouth.
centralmassdad says
Sometimes I think you are actually my Grandpa, speaking from the grave.
Trickle up says
Things I miss:
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Permalinks for individual comments.
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Ability to view comments by author.
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Headings for comments.
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Formatting for comments.
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Link to the main page from the bottom of a post or comment chain.
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Ability to see who uprated posts (comments, not so much).
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Old content: Nearly impossible to find, and images are missing from the old stuff.
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Links to older (or newer) posts at end of page (yes, I see the “all posts” tab but not as useful).
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Links to profile pages.
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Post re David leaving (did you guys delete it? Did he change his mind?).
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Things I wonder if might be better:
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Comments in general
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Rating system in general (remember 6s?).
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Site search (seems awfully haphazard).
I will note that it can still be pretty much impossible to tell which comment your comment will appear under unless you have been keeping track.
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Not complaining, just responding to “See how this system works for you” and (from another post that has disappeared) a request to know how to make things better.
Trickle up says
Holy smoke, this is all one paragraph! Not how I wrote it.
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Another thing we lost I guess.
Trickle up says
PS: Shop?
Charley on the MTA says
The link is on the upper right of the comment.
petr says
It appears that larger comments are ‘smooshed’ into one seeming paragraph, until you click the “Read more >>” link and your entire comment is revealed in it’s original formatting…
Trickle up says
That will teach us to rattle on, I guess.
Trickle up says
One other thing I’m missing is how comments that were new to me used to be set off by a red [new], which was easy to search for.
It made it easier to jump back in to a thread.
Glad to see the paragraph compressor is turned off now.
stomv says
Are new comments marked as such? That was a really valuable feature for me, especially for situations with lots of threaded responses.
Donald Green says
Would prefer “agree/disagree” to “like/dislike” since that is the sentiment most common here, and it invites further dialog rather than confrontation.
JimC says
Or eliminate ratings.
Christopher says
Can we get back the indication of how many and which comments are new to a given diary since the last time we logged on? I found that very helpful and don’t always remember how many comments there were last time.