This is really revealing, about all involved:
Gov. Mitt Romney said Wednesday that he’s "made it very, very clearfrom the very beginning that I do not support gay marriage or civilunions," and that remarks he made earlier this week in South Carolinawere consistent with that position.
The Republican governor’s critics assailed him for failing tomention during a speech to Republican party activists in Spartanburg,S.C., on Monday that he supports a proposed amendment to the stateconstitution that, while banning gay marriage, would allow for civilunions.
From this, a few things are clear:
- Mitt doesn’t like gay folks.
- The rest of the Republican governors don’t like gay folks, either.
- MA folks, on the balance, don’t mind gay folks so much.
- Therefore, the governor panders and slobbers for the folks who don’t actually live in his state, and don’t vote for him.
It’s kind of amazing to see a governor who is rallying contempt for his own state to further his own personal objectives. And now it’s quite brazen.
Please share widely!
I know Gay mariage is personally importasnt to you. But it is not to most people. There is much more to being progressive then the semantics of a piece of paper. If Democrats are going to prevail why can’t we talk about other issues. Abortion and gay mariage are not the only issues and it is not unreasoinable to believe a mariage is between a man and a woman yet civil unions are fine, and life begins at conception. Perhaps people like you and me disagree with that, but it is not unreasonable for a person to take those views. Once again your smugnes stinks of elitism. The democrats are not here for your personal fights.
John, if you had actually read Charley’s post, or any of the other coverage of Romney’s speech, you would know that Romney does NOT think civil unions are “fine” – in fact, he’s against them. He’s saying that he only supported the amendment that would create civil unions because he viewed it as the only way to defeat gay marriage. And why it is either “smug” or “elitist” to observe that Romney is whistling a very different tune in South Carolina than he whistled here in 2002 to get elected is quite beyond me – among others, the Globe and the Herald have both called him on it.As to what the Democrats are “here for,” I’m blown away by your suggestion that we should keep our views to ourselves and let the party elites decide what’s best for us and for America. That approach pretty much flushed the party down the toilet in November. It is the right and the responsibility of the PEOPLE to tell the party what they are “here for.” As long as the party does not serve the people, it will never win. Nor should it.
I agree with John that there are many other issues besides gay marriage and abortion that the Democrats should leading the discussion on, but John you are mistaken if you think that the gay marriage/civil union difference is merely “the semantics of a piece of paper.” Is that what you meant? If it is so mere, then why do you think there is there so much difficulty generally with the concept?If that is what you meant, what you have revealed by your post is that you do not have the kind of grasp of the core issues at stake in the marriage question to take what I found to be such a dismissive tone. I think if you really understood that the real issue in the gay marriage fight is inequality before the law for no rational reason, you would not trivialize what is so important here.We have allowed the media and other interests to frame the issue as a values and tradition issue, calling it “redefining marriage”. What the issue really is is REDEFINING EQUALITY. Equality is a good value, but not for those people.Inequality before the law, unequal footing before your government and your community. Now how does that sound? American? Democratic? Does that sound like a good leadership position for Democrats to take? Put that way, I’m sure the issue as inequality would be much less palatable to a lot of people who blow past it like you did. I also want to talk about things like better cheaper healthcare, good schools and plenty of goodpaying jobs on American soil, but I don’t lose sight of that fact that inequality and discrimination is not only existing, but legally flourishing lately in the US, for really only a lack of education on the issue.
I think that who ever is gay,should go to hell.