I mean, you have the two clear leaders in the race – Silbert and Murray – out there pounding the pavement, working it hard, raising money, while Goldberg has been trying to raise money, but has been spending more than she raised for months.
Well, if I were a donor of hers, I’d be insulted. Why did you want my money when you were just going to try and buy the election yourself?
Also, as a delegate, I’m insulted. Democrats do not need their own version of Kerry Murphy Healey. We all know that one of the undercurrents of the Democratic message will be that Healey is out of touch with reality. And we all know that Reilly or a middle-class LG candidate will be the only ones who can credibly deliver that message. As the leaders in the race, Silbert and Murray are best poised to deliver that message.
But I do take comfort in the fact that there are too many failed Multi-Millionaire candidates to count. (Rappaport, McGinn, O’Connor, Gabrieli). Sure, Romney won, but he’s been the exception.
I, for one, won’t be bought, and unless Goldberg steps it up on the substance front and starts talking about real issues like the top-tier LG candidates have been doing, I’m not paying her any more attention.
I want to WIN and having Deb Goldberg on the ticket will be a liability. We need someone with new ideas, a fresh face, and solid backing. Murray and Silbert are those candidates in this race, and I’m looking forward to supporting one of them in the fall.
Hi all, I’m a new poster to the board, but have been a lurker for a while, as well as a close follower of the Lt. Gov’s race. I fully agree that this is a sad turn of events. However it’s factually innacurate to groupGabrielli with the “failed multi-millionare candidates”, I don’t think the loss of the O’Brien/Gabrielli ticket can exactly be blamed on Gabrielli. Personally I’m not a fan of Goldberg, but if it comes down to a Democratic Gubenetorial Candidate X/Deborah Goldberg ticket vs. Healy/whatever her lackey’s name is, I’m going to vote for Candidate X/Goldberg, because when all is said and done, any one of the possible Democratic tickets is better than another Republican in the corner office!
That was a $5 million race for less than 6,000 votes and a very poor finish in 1998.
I presume da clerk was referring to 1998 when Gabrieli spent gobs of money ($5 million?) only to finish nowhere close to the top in a crowded field that was won by Capuano’s base and superior ground came.
ah, sorry, I was unaware of that.
I have always suspected that “daclerk” works for either Silbert or Murray and daclerk saying that this is “sad” development finally confirms it. Are you kidding me? I find it simply absurd that anyone on this board considers Goldbergâs contribution to be anything but a phenomenal development for the MA democrats for those of us who want to stop complaining and actually win an election. The bottom line is that the Republicans will win AGAIN if we donât outspend them on campaigns. It is time for people to step up and do whatever it takes to win. And, Goldberg not only seems to have the financial resources to outspend Republicans, but she seems to be the most qualified candidate to actually do the job of LG (it seems like she has a unique balance of legitimate experience in both business and government). Letâs at least be honest with ourselves: the only way Democrats will take back the statehouse is if they can outspend the republican fundraising machine. This latest development makes Goldberg the only viable LG candidate â the others will simply not be able to compete in the major leagues against Healeyâs well financed running mate. Letâs be realistic and honest about this so that we don’t need to complain for another four years. I think that this is a terrific development for all MA democrats. It’s time to support the most viable candidates who can actually win an election.
Viable candidate? Funny, I thought that was Murray and Silbert (We all know I favor Murray). Having money does not automatically make you a viable candidate, and it will be a sad day when it does. Yes, it is a factor, but you need to have more than money or fundraising ability to truly add to the ticket. Personally based on what I have seen, and what other have said I don’t think Goldberg has much to add besides money, and that does not cut it for me.
If Deborah Goldberg wants to sink $1 million of her own money into her campaign, she is perfectly entitled to do so. I think the issue has less to do with how much candidates are investing in their campaigns than in where that money is coming from. Andrea Silbert and Tim Murray have released their tax information. Tom Reilly was the first to do so in the Governor’s race.
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In order to assure the public that these personal funds do not come with strings attached, Deborah Golberg, Deval Patrick, and Chris Gabrieli should share their returns with the public, It’s an easy process and every candidate for Governor has been willing to do it since 1990, save Mitt Romney and, now, Patrick and Gabrieli.
Easy there maverick…While I am also in the camp that thinks Goldberg injecting $1M into her coffers is a sad turn of events, let’s not start the whole “release your tax returns” thread again…in Goldberg’s case, the disclosure form would be nice to see, but I don’t think we’ll find any excessive mortgages or questionable board memberships (Ameriquest) a la Deval Patrick…
From her website:
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“Deb grew up in the company her family founded, Stop & Shop, one of New Englandâs largest grocery chains.”
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Does that give anyone a clue?
No mystery there. The family sold the chain for millions several years ago.
financial disclosure is so darn easy. It shouldn’t tell us anything surprising. . .unless, of course, there is something surprising.
But it’s a NON-ISSUE. I am a poor law student, and if I were running out of principle I wouldn’t release my returns just to make the statement that it’s a NON-ISSUE. We have better stuff to worry about than tax returns. If you have problems, such as Marie St. Fleur, they will come up whether or not you release your returns. This is a BS political stunt for lesser financially endowed candidates to flaunt their “connection” to real people. You know how to connect with real people?? Give them solutions to real problems. I don’t care what your tax returns say.
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As for Goldberg’s 1M… I say, great. She’s making a statement that is incredibly powerful. It’s this – “Not only can I contribute the most to the ticket regarding qualifications, experience, passion, and ideas…but I have financial clout to back it up as well.” Is there any doubt who contributes the most, overall, to a democratic ticket in November? I can absolutely guarantee there’s a very loud buzz in every single one of the gubernatorial (and LG) camps right now. If you got it, use it. If you’re qualified, more power to you. This is what we need, don’t be fooled. Every democrat in Mass. just got a little wake up call from an otherwise recently quiet LG race. Good morning, dems!!
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Do I help out the Goldberg camp? Well, as much as a 1L can, and proud of it. (just for the purpose of disclosure)
For those of you who don’t do you own taxes (and therefore keep writing on the board that tax returns reveal a person’s net worth or somehow magically reveals the source of someoneâs net worth over their lifetime) I suggest you do your own taxes next year. The only information you can determine from a 2005 tax filing is a person’s 2005 personal income (and nothing from previous years). It’s quite possible that extraordinary wealthy people have very modest 2005 incomes, depending on their 2005 salary and their financial advisorâs investment decisions. Do you remember John Kerry released his tax 2004 returns? Was he worth $1 billion? No, he and his wife filed separately and all of her money is in family trusts anyway.
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For the record, according the the press, Deb Goldbergâs family built one of New Englandâs biggest chains/employers and ultimately sold it (presumably for a lot of hard earned money). She has never hid or has been embarrassed by what she and her family accomplished — in fact, sheâs appears to be (and quite frankly, should be) very proud of her familyâs history. This whole tax return debate is absurd. Itâs a convenient stunt that has zero relevance. Itâs time for all of us to focus determining who is the most viable candidate (which is a function of experience and adequate resources to outdo his/her Republican counterpart). In the end of the, I don’t care who wins the election, just as long a it’s a Democrat. But, the Republicans have a strong ticket and muchh more money. It’s time to match them.
She paid J& F associates for collecting signatures was a deal then.