I clicked through ready to hear stories about zombie-eyed moonies going door to door sucking the brains of non-Patrick supporters. (Especially since, as a DP supporter, that’s how I spend my weekends.)
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And all I get is one lousy line at the bottom of the article that’s as much a clever turn of phrase as anything else?
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EXTRA, EXTRA!!
DEVAL PATRICK SUPPORTERS ARE LOYAL AND ENTHUSIASTIC!!!
READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!
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… hmmm, all that yelling made me thirsty. Now where did I leave the kool-aid?
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iiisays
lolorbsays
is when the media insults the intelligence of supporters. It backfires and generates even more support for the candidate. People have had enough of negative campaigning and the MSM. They are looking for positives and motivation.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iiisays
publiussays
Maybe it’s because of the stealth tactics of the Reilly campaign. It started at the caucuses — the Reilly loyalists must have been instructed to stay home.
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Then there’s the conspicuous lack of bumper stickers. (There were apparently some Reilly-St. Fleur ones printed, but they are very hard to find now.)
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In the last few months, I’ve heard many people gush about what a great governor they think Patrick will be. In the last month or so, some people have said they think Gabrieli would be really good. But, dang, I can’t remember anyone expressing genuine excitement about the prospect of Governor Reilly, except as an alternative to Governor Healey.
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You’ve got to admire their discipline, not wanting to get that “cult” charge going.
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Slogan ideas for a non-cult candidate:
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“Reilly: he’ll be OK. Really.”
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“Keep your blood pressure down: vote Reilly”
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“Reilly: the people’s choice. The people named Menino and Travaligni.”
Joan Vennochi was an interesting writer until, apparently, she made a career choice to position her product as centrist Broderism with maybe a hint of dismissive Dowdism. Since then, she’s pretty much recycled the formula that Time and Newsweek made so popular – a pox on both their houses, summed up with a knowing, I’m-too-good-for-this shrug. Barf.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iiisays
But she does write well and usually gets it right.
As to the “cult” reference, i think that issue has been discussed extensively on this blog and even many people here agree there is a cult like fringe left group who run to a candidate who every so often captures their fancy.
Dean had them, Reich had them, Eugene McCarthy had them.
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Check out Adam Reilly’s take on this on his blog.
“Cult-like” is another product of journalists with no sense of refined description, people who have been taught that one can’t be objective if one uses adjectives.
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I don’t doubt that Patrick’s supporters are much more invested in their candidate as an individual, and more willing to accept what he says by virtue of his charisma. That’s what charismatic candidates have — Wellstone, Dean, Kucinich, to name a few. Rather than use those long words that take precious column inches away from the writer’s attempts to be witty, they go with cult-like.
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Big deal. I just don’t see how Democrats are cultlike when Republicans are the ones who demand loyalty oaths.
I can’t speak for all Deval Patrick supporters, but I don’t accept what he says based on his charisma, it’s based on his values, which I share and his opinions and ideas on various issues. I don’t understand how that translates into being cultish. I call it being an informed voter.
WHY CAN’T I fall in love?
The Massachusetts gubernatorial field is set for now: three Democrats, one Republican and one independent.
But for me, it’s the same old story. I’m not sure I want to spend the next four years with any one of them.
It’s early in the race, but the 2006 campaign outline is already fairly predictable.
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She’s just tooooo good to weigh pros and cons rationally pick which candidate meets her criteria. That’s so boooring! Why doesn’t this gubernatorial race have snappy one-liners and plot-twists as if Quentin Tarantino wrote the script for it?
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The Boston Globe is owned the NYTimes Corporation, and in some ways, Globe writers are in the minor leagues waiting to get bumped up to the Times. Remember Patrick Healy?Daniel Okrent? They moved up the ladder. Joan may not want to leave the Globe, but that’s beside the point. Many columnists for the New York Times write from a perspective that they are smarter/better than the politicians they cover. Some politicians are idiots but some actually possess powerful intellects, like Bill Clinton or Al Gore. The culture of these NYT pundits is to bad-mouth the latter as “pedantic” or “know-it-all.”
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I think that pundit culture seeps down into the Globe, and Joan feels comfortable thinking that way.
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It’s so much easier than deciding traits she values in a leader and comparing candidates against the criteria. That would be useful to people, even those who had different criteria.
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Each of these candidates has succeeded at what they chose to do. Perhaps none of them have your staggering intellect, brilliant white teeth, and rock-hard abdomen, Ernie, but that’s not their fault–and you didn’t sign up to run.
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And that really matters. Once a math professor asked my class to write a proof for some theorem, and none of us could do it. At the next class he said, “Oh, I left out the word NOT in the theorem.”
eury13 says
I clicked through ready to hear stories about zombie-eyed moonies going door to door sucking the brains of non-Patrick supporters. (Especially since, as a DP supporter, that’s how I spend my weekends.)
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And all I get is one lousy line at the bottom of the article that’s as much a clever turn of phrase as anything else?
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EXTRA, EXTRA!!
DEVAL PATRICK SUPPORTERS ARE LOYAL AND ENTHUSIASTIC!!!
READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!
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… hmmm, all that yelling made me thirsty. Now where did I leave the kool-aid?
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
lolorb says
is when the media insults the intelligence of supporters. It backfires and generates even more support for the candidate. People have had enough of negative campaigning and the MSM. They are looking for positives and motivation.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
publius says
Maybe it’s because of the stealth tactics of the Reilly campaign. It started at the caucuses — the Reilly loyalists must have been instructed to stay home.
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Then there’s the conspicuous lack of bumper stickers. (There were apparently some Reilly-St. Fleur ones printed, but they are very hard to find now.)
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In the last few months, I’ve heard many people gush about what a great governor they think Patrick will be. In the last month or so, some people have said they think Gabrieli would be really good. But, dang, I can’t remember anyone expressing genuine excitement about the prospect of Governor Reilly, except as an alternative to Governor Healey.
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You’ve got to admire their discipline, not wanting to get that “cult” charge going.
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Slogan ideas for a non-cult candidate:
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“Reilly: he’ll be OK. Really.”
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“Keep your blood pressure down: vote Reilly”
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“Reilly: the people’s choice. The people named Menino and Travaligni.”
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Other ideas?
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eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
lovable-liberal says
Joan Vennochi was an interesting writer until, apparently, she made a career choice to position her product as centrist Broderism with maybe a hint of dismissive Dowdism. Since then, she’s pretty much recycled the formula that Time and Newsweek made so popular – a pox on both their houses, summed up with a knowing, I’m-too-good-for-this shrug. Barf.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
But she does write well and usually gets it right.
As to the “cult” reference, i think that issue has been discussed extensively on this blog and even many people here agree there is a cult like fringe left group who run to a candidate who every so often captures their fancy.
Dean had them, Reich had them, Eugene McCarthy had them.
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Check out Adam Reilly’s take on this on his blog.
sabutai says
“Cult-like” is another product of journalists with no sense of refined description, people who have been taught that one can’t be objective if one uses adjectives.
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I don’t doubt that Patrick’s supporters are much more invested in their candidate as an individual, and more willing to accept what he says by virtue of his charisma. That’s what charismatic candidates have — Wellstone, Dean, Kucinich, to name a few. Rather than use those long words that take precious column inches away from the writer’s attempts to be witty, they go with cult-like.
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Big deal. I just don’t see how Democrats are cultlike when Republicans are the ones who demand loyalty oaths.
susan-m says
I can’t speak for all Deval Patrick supporters, but I don’t accept what he says based on his charisma, it’s based on his values, which I share and his opinions and ideas on various issues. I don’t understand how that translates into being cultish. I call it being an informed voter.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
shillelaghlaw says
In the same sentence!?!?
sabutai says
…but a lot of his supporters I know did.
tim-little says
“Cult of Personality” lyrics
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For every Jim Jones, Hitler, Mussolini, et al, there’s a Gandhi, JFK, MLK….
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… needs to go back to bed.
joeltpatterson says
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She’s just tooooo good to weigh pros and cons rationally pick which candidate meets her criteria. That’s so boooring! Why doesn’t this gubernatorial race have snappy one-liners and plot-twists as if Quentin Tarantino wrote the script for it?
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The Boston Globe is owned the NYTimes Corporation, and in some ways, Globe writers are in the minor leagues waiting to get bumped up to the Times. Remember Patrick Healy? Daniel Okrent? They moved up the ladder. Joan may not want to leave the Globe, but that’s beside the point. Many columnists for the New York Times write from a perspective that they are smarter/better than the politicians they cover. Some politicians are idiots but some actually possess powerful intellects, like Bill Clinton or Al Gore. The culture of these NYT pundits is to bad-mouth the latter as “pedantic” or “know-it-all.”
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I think that pundit culture seeps down into the Globe, and Joan feels comfortable thinking that way.
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It’s so much easier than deciding traits she values in a leader and comparing candidates against the criteria. That would be useful to people, even those who had different criteria.
eb3-fka-ernie-boch-iii says
Nice reasoning there, joel.
joeltpatterson says
The three Democrats would each make capable governors. None of them is likely to be incompetent. In some states, a party picks its candidate simply because of a famous name in spite of a history of dangerous personal irresponsibility and repeated business failures that smell of corruption. And then the people suffer because of a lousy executive.
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Each of these candidates has succeeded at what they chose to do. Perhaps none of them have your staggering intellect, brilliant white teeth, and rock-hard abdomen, Ernie, but that’s not their fault–and you didn’t sign up to run.
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So we really ought compare them to you.
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It wouldn’t be fair.
joeltpatterson says
typo: left out the word NOT.
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And that really matters. Once a math professor asked my class to write a proof for some theorem, and none of us could do it. At the next class he said, “Oh, I left out the word NOT in the theorem.”