October 10, 2002
Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of
United States Armed Forces Against Iraq
As Delivered
Today we are asked whether to give the President of the United States authority to use force in Iraq should diplomatic efforts fail to dismantle Saddam Hussein’s chemical and biological weapons and his nuclear program.
I am honored to represent nearly 19 million New Yorkers, a thoughtful democracy of voices and opinions who make themselves heard on the great issues of our day especially this one. Many have contacted my office about this resolution, both in support of and in opposition to it, and I am grateful to all who have expressed an opinion.
I also greatly respect the differing opinions within this body. The debate they engender will aid our search for a wise, effective policy. Therefore, on no account should dissent be discouraged or disparaged. It is central to our freedom and to our progress, for on more than one occasion, history has proven our great dissenters to be right.
Now, I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians, killing over 20 thousand people. Unfortunately, during the 1980’s, while he engaged in such horrific activity, he enjoyed the support of the American government, because he had oil and was seen as a counterweight to the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran.
In 1991, Saddam Hussein invaded and occupied Kuwait, losing the support of the United States. The first President Bush assembled a global coalition, including many Arab states, and threw Saddam out after forty-three days of bombing and a hundred hours of ground operations. The U.S.-led coalition then withdrew, leaving the Kurds and the Shiites, who had risen against Saddam Hussein at our urging, to Saddam’s revenge.
As a condition for ending the conflict, the United Nations imposed a number of requirements on Iraq, among them disarmament of all weapons of mass destruction, stocks used to make such weapons, and laboratories necessary to do the work. Saddam Hussein agreed, and an inspection system was set up to ensure compliance. And though he repeatedly lied, delayed, and obstructed the inspections work, the inspectors found and destroyed far more weapons of mass destruction capability than were destroyed in the Gulf War, including thousands of chemical weapons, large volumes of chemical and biological stocks, a number of missiles and warheads, a major lab equipped to produce anthrax and other bio-weapons, as well as substantial nuclear facilities.
In 1998, Saddam Hussein pressured the United Nations to lift the sanctions by threatening to stop all cooperation with the inspectors. In an attempt to resolve the situation, the UN, unwisely in my view, agreed to put limits on inspections of designated “sovereign sites” including the so-called presidential palaces, which in reality were huge compounds well suited to hold weapons labs, stocks, and records which Saddam Hussein was required by UN resolution to turn over. When Saddam blocked the inspection process, the inspectors left. As a result, President Clinton, with the British and others, ordered an intensive four-day air assault, Operation Desert Fox, on known and suspected weapons of mass destruction sites and other military targets.
In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad.
In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.
Now this much is undisputed. The open questions are: what should we do about it? How, when, and with whom?
Some people favor attacking Saddam Hussein now, with any allies we can muster, in the belief that one more round of weapons inspections would not produce the required disarmament, and that deposing Saddam would be a positive good for the Iraqi people and would create the possibility of a secular democratic state in the Middle East, one which could perhaps move the entire region toward democratic reform.
This view has appeal to some, because it would assure disarmament; because it would right old wrongs after our abandonment of the Shiites and Kurds in 1991, and our support for Saddam Hussein in the 1980’s when he was using chemical weapons and terrorizing his people; and because it would give the Iraqi people a chance to build a future in freedom.
However, this course is fraught with danger. We and our NATO allies did not depose Mr. Milosevic, who was responsible for more than a quarter of a million people being killed in the 1990s. Instead, by stopping his aggression in Bosnia and Kosovo, and keeping on the tough sanctions, we created the conditions in which his own people threw him out and led to his being in the dock being tried for war crimes as we speak.
If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us. In recent days, Russia has talked of an invasion of Georgia to attack Chechen rebels. India has mentioned the possibility of a pre-emptive strike on Pakistan. And what if China were to perceive a threat from Taiwan?
So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option.
Others argue that we should work through the United Nations and should only resort to force if and when the United Nations Security Council approves it. This too has great appeal for different reasons. The UN deserves our support. Whenever possible we should work through it and strengthen it, for it enables the world to share the risks and burdens of global security and when it acts, it confers a legitimacy that increases the likelihood of long-term success. The UN can help lead the world into a new era of global cooperation and the United States should support that goal.
But there are problems with this approach as well. The United Nations is an organization that is still growing and maturing. It often lacks the cohesion to enforce its own mandates. And when Security Council members use the veto, on occasion, for reasons of narrow-minded interests, it cannot act. In Kosovo, the Russians did not approve NATO military action because of political, ethnic, and religious ties to the Serbs. The United States therefore could not obtain a Security Council resolution in favor of the action necessary to stop the dislocation and ethnic cleansing of more than a million Kosovar Albanians. However, most of the world was with us because there was a genuine emergency with thousands dead and a million driven from their homes. As soon as the American-led conflict was over, Russia joined the peacekeeping effort that is still underway.
In the case of Iraq, recent comments indicate that one or two Security Council members might never approve force against Saddam Hussein until he has actually used chemical, biological, or God forbid, nuclear weapons.
So, Mr. President, the questio
n is how do we do our best to both defuse the real threat that Saddam Hussein poses to his people, to the region, including Israel, to the United States, to the world, and at the same time, work to maximize our international support and strengthen the United Nations?
While there is no perfect approach to this thorny dilemma, and while people of good faith and high intelligence can reach diametrically opposed conclusions, I believe the best course is to go to the UN for a strong resolution that scraps the 1998 restrictions on inspections and calls for complete, unlimited inspections with cooperation expected and demanded from Iraq. I know that the Administration wants more, including an explicit authorization to use force, but we may not be able to secure that now, perhaps even later. But if we get a clear requirement for unfettered inspections, I believe the authority to use force to enforce that mandate is inherent in the original 1991 UN resolution, as President Clinton recognized when he launched Operation Desert Fox in 1998.
If we get the resolution that President Bush seeks, and if Saddam complies, disarmament can proceed and the threat can be eliminated. Regime change will, of course, take longer but we must still work for it, nurturing all reasonable forces of opposition.
If we get the resolution and Saddam does not comply, then we can attack him with far more support and legitimacy than we would have otherwise.
If we try and fail to get a resolution that simply, but forcefully, calls for Saddam’s compliance with unlimited inspections, those who oppose even that will be in an indefensible position. And, we will still have more support and legitimacy than if we insist now on a resolution that includes authorizing military action and other requirements giving some nations superficially legitimate reasons to oppose any Security Council action. They will say we never wanted a resolution at all and that we only support the United Nations when it does exactly what we want.
I believe international support and legitimacy are crucial. After shots are fired and bombs are dropped, not all consequences are predictable. While the military outcome is not in doubt, should we put troops on the ground, there is still the matter of Saddam Hussein’s biological and chemical weapons. Today he has maximum incentive not to use them or give them away. If he did either, the world would demand his immediate removal. Once the battle is joined, however, with the outcome certain, he will have maximum incentive to use weapons of mass destruction and to give what he can’t use to terrorists who can torment us with them long after he is gone. We cannot be paralyzed by this possibility, but we would be foolish to ignore it. And according to recent reports, the CIA agrees with this analysis. A world united in sharing the risk at least would make this occurrence less likely and more bearable and would be far more likely to share with us the considerable burden of rebuilding a secure and peaceful post-Saddam Iraq.
President Bush’s speech in Cincinnati and the changes in policy that have come forth since the Administration began broaching this issue some weeks ago have made my vote easier. Even though the resolution before the Senate is not as strong as I would like in requiring the diplomatic route first and placing highest priority on a simple, clear requirement for unlimited inspections, I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.
Because bipartisan support for this resolution makes success in the United Nations more likely, and therefore, war less likely, and because a good faith effort by the United States, even if it fails, will bring more allies and legitimacy to our cause, I have concluded, after careful and serious consideration, that a vote for the resolution best serves the security of our nation. If we were to defeat this resolution or pass it with only a few Democrats, I am concerned that those who want to pretend this problem will go way with delay will oppose any UN resolution calling for unrestricted inspections.
This is a very difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make — any vote that may lead to war should be hard — but I cast it with conviction.
And perhaps my decision is influenced by my eight years of experience on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue in the White House watching my husband deal with serious challenges to our nation. I want this President, or any future President, to be in the strongest possible position to lead our country in the United Nations or in war. Secondly, I want to insure that Saddam Hussein makes no mistake about our national unity and for our support for the President’s efforts to wage America’s war against terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. And thirdly, I want the men and women in our Armed Forces to know that if they should be called upon to act against Iraq, our country will stand resolutely behind them.
My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for uni-lateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose — all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people throughout the world.
Over eleven years have passed since the UN called on Saddam Hussein to rid himself of weapons of mass destruction as a condition of returning to the world community. Time and time again he has frustrated and denied these conditions. This matter cannot be left hanging forever with consequences we would all live to regret. War can yet be avoided, but our responsibility to global security and to the integrity of United Nations resolutions protecting it cannot. I urge the President to spare no effort to secure a clear, unambiguous demand by the United Nations for unlimited inspections.
And finally, on another personal note, I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year’s terrible attacks on our nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know that I am.
So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him – use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein – this is your last chance – disarm or be disarmed.
Thank you, Mr. President.
sharonmg says
who didn’t need “hindsight” to have 20/20 vision on this, and that would be Sen. Obama. And that’s one important thing I’m looking for in a leader. Someone who has good judgment at the time of a crisis.
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I understand Sen. Clinton’s arguments on this, but I vehemently disagree. The Founding Fathers gave Congress the power to authorize our nation to go to war for a reason. That reason was not to cede it to the president so the president is in the “strongest possible position.” It was to use their judgment in offering a check against the reckless use of power.
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A vote to put the “awesome responsibility” in the hands of George W. Bush, with no more ability to curb his powers, was wrong. Period. She says she was was voting based on what her her husband would have needed as president, not understanding that while her husband might have used the power responsibly, not all presidents would. This one certainly wouldn’t. That’s another important quality in a leader, understanding the strengths and weaknesses of people holding power. It concerns me she couldn’t see that.
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And the tossing in of the September 11 reference particularly annoys me. Even at the time, it was pretty clear that the references the Bush administration was claiming to a tie between Hussein and al Qaeda was tenuous at best, and that the important 9/11-related war was in Afghanistan, not opening up a second front because of some meeting in Prague that might have taken place. You don’t justify going to war because of a meeting.
mrstas says
Two things.
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1. Obama was not a United States Senator at the time of the resolution. He was a State Senator in Illinois. I don’t remember him criticizing the war in 2002. Hindsight being 20/20 is when you can stand on a stage in 2004 and say “I’ve always been against the war” … once the war is going poorly, having had the luxury of being able to be quiet in 2002. The members of the United States Senate didn’t have that luxury, because they actually had to vote on a resolution in front of them.
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2. Your argument is that one should never trust the President, or in any case, not trust this one. I think that’s wrong. I think the job of President of the United States is one to whom we give an enormous amount of trust – that’s why we make that person the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and the person with their finger on the button that could at any point launch weapons with the power to destroy our entire world. You must trust the President unless evidence proves otherwise. In 2002, I am not sure we had adequate evidence to doubt Bush on the issue of war and peace. I certainly didn’t trust him on domestic issues, and I worked hard to get Al Gore elected in 2000. But after the election, you have to allow the President to have some trust until they do something to lose it. I don’t trust Bush today, but by default, I trust the President (whoever it happens to be at the moment) on matters of war and peace. Do you?
sharonmg says
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2. Understood. We’ll have to agree to disagree here. If we’re supposed to trust the president to decide when to go to war, why bother having a Constitutional check on that power? Based on Bush’s sneering comments during the presidential debates over “nation-building,” I for one was arguing at the time in 2002 that we might easily defeat the Iraqi army, but I didn’t think this administration knew what to do afterwards. Never in my wildest nightmares did I think they would screw up the occupation this badly, but if it was plain to me that this administration had no respect for, knowledge of or interest in the concept of nation-building, someone who was living in the White House for 8 years should have had a hint of that also.
joeltpatterson says
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There was plenty of evidence in 2002 and 2003 to distrust this particular President. So much that Hillary’s colleague Bob Graham had called out the falsehoods and voted against the authorization.
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You can now be sure that Senators did have adequate evidence to distrust this President in 2002.
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I met Hillary Clinton in 1990 and she impressed me as very intelligent leader then. Her failure in judgment was a great disappointment to me in 2003. I may end up voting for her and campaigning for her, but I’ll never deceive myself about her failure with cliches such as “hindsight is 20/20” or “the President should by default have our trust.”
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I don’t think you’re convincing anybody with Point Number 2 up there, mrstas.
ronco says
Constitution and how it works regarding “war”.
First, the United States HAS NOT been in a “war” from a Constitutional standpoint since 1945. What the majority of Americans don’t realize is that the ONLY way that the US can be “at war” is if, and only if, Congress DECLARES WAR. The last time this happened was after FDR’s dynamic speech following the attack on Pearl Harbor. Then another amazing thing occurs. The United States form of government mutates from a representative democracy to an absolute dictatorship with the President of the United States becoming absolute dictator. It is clear that the founding fathers realized that a war could not be prosecuted and managed by a “committee” ( which is what we’re dealing with now in Iraq) and that a single “leader” was the only way to fight a winning campaign ie. FDR. This tradidtion actually began with George Washington as our nation’s first “wartime commander”.
Since WW II, the United states has lost every conflict we have been involved in because it has been micro-managed and “second guessed” by politicians and bureaucrats. The current situation is no different as the liberal left and the likes of the ACLU demand that our troops fight a “politically correct war” where the brutality and relentless destruction of our enemies that is absolutely required to win are “not permitted”…and then the liberals whine and lament that the “war” (which it isn’t because our President DOES NOT have the power required to win) is taking so long. So the next phase is to “cut and run” just as they did in the Viet nam era at a cost of millions of lives. The lefties and democrats remember this which is why they lack the spine to defund the Iraq “conflict” NOW but instead choose to “talk it to death”, cowards that they truly are. Hillary is just another one of them with her finger stretched into the air to sense the direction of the political “wind”…. a leader?? What a joke. And Obama? A “non player’ as he wasn’t around for the vote on Iraq but rest assured that had he been he would have run right along side the rest of the “political lemmings” who heard the American people demanding that Sadam be dealt with by force.
Obama for President?? You must be joking. He hasn’t even found out where the Senate men’s room is yet. .
republican-rock-radio-machine says
Yeah – I remember a couple weeks ago when Hillary gave the old “If I Knew Then What I Know Now” speech.
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I just didn’t buy it.
cos says
Indeed it was a very difficult vote – politically.
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It was patently obvious at that time that Bush wanted war and was contriving to go to war for no good reason. It was patently obvious that he and his entire administration were incompetent and would make a mess of it. Either Clinton believed what she was saying in this speech, which marks her as (possibly willfully) blind and irresponsible and out of touch, or she was ambivalent or reluctant, which marks her as weak (as Kerry was weak).
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This was the grandest most sweeping mistake ever made by our leaders (including our Senators) in the history of the USA. No excuses. Only abject and honest apology will do.
potroast says
What bothers me is that since then, even very recently she has continued to parrot Bushco lines about Iraq, and has continued to reference Sept 11 as a justification.
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In Feb of 2005, she declared that the insurgency was failing and quote:
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See that? That was the same logic that Bushco was using. The insurgency is in its last throws, and the suicide bombings are proof they are failing.
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And even more recently she referenced 9/11 as a justification for her vote:
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I find that statement really grating. She is implying, one, that 9/11 was some kind of justification for attacking Iraq, but even more annoying is her implication that because she represents NY, she has some special take on the matter. Excuse me, but NY is especially opposed to this war and this President and living in NY does not give you special insight into attacking Iraq. Its a very patronizing statement.