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    • forget the debate – it has been going on for years

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      try supporting real legislation.  something a little more “Binding”

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      otherwise – it just seems like politics as usual on both sides of the isle.

  2. …and “promote families”, ending the war might be a good start.

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    Iraq war: 3000+ American families destroyed and counting.

    • I say I have a Wake up call for a tblade

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      Republicans really don’t want to “protect marriage” and “promote families” we just want to keep Gay Marriage illegal. 

      • Also, I commend you on your ability to share your bigotry openly. It is almost refreshing. Almost.

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        If anti-SSM activists are going to employ dishonest language in their rhetoric, then it should be pointed out how dishonest their rhetoric actually is by contrasting how Bush’s Iraq policy has done more to destroy, disrupt, and mame the American Family than any marriage or marriages, same-sexed or otherwise.

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        The story depicted a young man loved by many, including is in-laws. He leaves a 19-year-old pregnant widow.  He leaves Alisia, his unborn daughter to grow up in the bedroom he once occupied.

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        How could any one supposedly concerned about “family values” not feel nauseous knowing that this war is leaving a swarth of 19-year-old widows across the country? 19? Shit, I had just arrived at college where I learned that girls from other towns sometimes wear bras that unhook in the front instead of the back! Back then, I thought the idea of a teen-aged widows existed only in Hawthorne or Victorian literature.

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        And for what? Why are we allowing our millitary to create this subculure of 19-year-old widows? Who could support a policy of questionable (if not 100% dubious) benefit that results in so many damaged families? Who will protect their families? Why don’t “family values” people quit writing to the FCC and wtite to the VA to demand top quality treatment (including top quality mental health treatment) for Iraq’s wounded?

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        When will we stop talking about creating statutory “family values” and start priveliging the value of families?

        • “I commend you on your ability to share your bigotry openly.”

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          It’s not bigotry, it’s just against my faith.

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          • Plenty of acts and beliefs derived from faith are bigotry nonetheless. Just consider Muslim extremists who wish to crush the infidels. That’s an extreme form of bigotry; it also derives from their faith.

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            So, too, is your desire to keep gay marriage illegal both bigotry and derived from your faith.

  4. Charley, I appreciate what I think is the thrust of your post – that lives are being wasted for nothing in Iraq.  However, your title really made me bristle.  Would it be ok to send a troop of jerks over to be wasted?  And who determines who is special?  Would Grandma Moses have been acceptable cannon fodder prior to her 80th birthday?  The war is bad because people are being killed, period.  No special pedestels need to be erected, unless you erect on for each Iraqi and foreign invader killed.  IMHO, of course.

    • Laurel, your concern is really over-the-top … and misses the point.

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      The ‘BUR segment was excellent because it brought out Sgt. Fuller’s individuality: his sense of humor, how his in-laws adored him, etc. And yes, every US soldier has that uniqueness. For that matter, so does every Iraqi civilian living through this time of horror — but we don’t hear anywhere near enough about them.

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      Anyway, I feel stupid even having to write this. Lighten up, Laurel. And please stop imagining you’re the only conscientious person in the room — give other people a little credit.

      • Since when is it not ok to disagree with the premise of a post, and state the reason why?  If you don’t like my approach, don’t read my comments.

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        And btw, your 1-liner diary intro just said “WBUR had a profile on Centerville’s Army Sgt. Alex Fuller, killed by a roadside bomb in Iraq. He was 21. His wife is pregnant. a nicely done story. check it out.”  Then you say I missed the point.  Well, you didn’t state a point for me to miss until your rebuttal to my comment.  And there is nothing in my comment that conflicts with your belated statement that “every US soldier has that uniqueness.”

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        So maybe you should feel stupid for telling me to lighten up, you should take a deep breath and get a grip yourself.  Sheesh!

        • Or, maybe, a meet up that is a fund raiser.  In her situation, wouldn’t that be helpful, as opposed to being some sort of poster child?

          • I think that’s a great idea.  Helping anyone who has lost a family member, whether via the Katrina flood or Iraq, is a wonderful thing. 

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            I think it is also worthwhile to think on a larger scale and push congress to systematically improve veterans benefits and services, which should include provisions for widow(er) & family.  That would be showing true support of our troops (the dorks and the stellar alike) and their families.  The Bush administration has a penchant for reducing benefits for the troops they purport to “support”.

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