1:59-2:10pm: Legislators are beginning to wind their way into the room. Some people I recognize milling around the room: Lt. Governor Murray — I’m told that he will speak. Rep. Eldridge is also here as is Cam Kerry, Senator Creem (she’s my state senator and main sponsor of the bill), Rep. Fox (sponsor of the House version), Grace Ross, Rep. Augustus (chairman of the committee), and many others. I’m only listing those I recognize right now. The room is positively overflowing with people supporting EDR, many are wearing giant stickers for it.
2:12: Gavel banged. Sen. Augustus introduces us to the committee and sets out the agenda.
2:14: Lt. Gov Murray: Talks about civic engagement. On behalf of the Governor he expresses their support for EDR, thanking poll workers and election day workers, as well as Galvin for getting machines to allow every citizen to vote.
EDR is about getting government to work with people to help people participate. This is part of a commitment to working families. It’s worked in 7 states and in big cities and small towns. This is part of engaging citizens and this is something we’ve dealt with before?when we allowed 18 yr. olds to vote, so we’ve dealt with new voters before.
No questions for the Lt. Governor.
2:18 Sen. Creem and Rep. Gloria Fox, sponsors of the bill came forward.
Rep. Fox: This is “an initiative whose day has arrived.” Thanks numerous groups for coming together on this group from SEIU, Sierra Club, NAACP and many others. Suburban, urban, Democrats and Republicans all support EDR. It enhances and updates current system to allow people to take advantage of their “god-given right,” to vote on the day of the election. This eliminates a lot of confusion regarding voting — if voters have been dropped from the rolls and so on, they can get back on that day. This bill would require identification. There have been few instances of fraud.
Fox predicts that 2008 will have a need for people to vote. Excitement is high in the citizenry to vote – we’ve seen that in 2006, and she predicts we’ll see that kind of excitement again in the 2008 elections. She’s quite excited!
MA was one of the first states to sanction South Africa that led to one-man/one-vote in South Africa. They extended the voting day. If South Africa can that, certainly we can do EDR so there is no barrier to the right to vote.
2:24: Senator Creem: Aren’t we lucky that we live in a country and a state where we can continue to remove barriers to voting? We owe it to the people of MA to be able to vote when they come to the vote. She echoed much of what Fox said and mentioned that voter participation rates in states with EDR was above 73% in 2006 compared to the mid 60s in other states.
I found the questioning period interesting, though ultimately unenlightening. For instance, Representative Frost asked about people who vote “by mistake,” that is, they don’t intend to do fraud, but they wind up voting in a precinct or at a time when they are not in fact registered to do so. Augustus suggests that Galvin can answer some of these questions at a later period.
2:36: Galvin: The issue is not the concept of EDR — the concept makes good sense. It’s the administrative carrying out of the process. There’s a lot of administrative issues that just have to be worked out. He is eager to make this work and supports it strongly, but it won’t be a panacea for the group of people to participate. EDR’s an excellent way to remedy many of the problems that we do have.
Galvin stress that it’s very important that people get the right ballot because oftentimes what side of the street you live on determines what voting district you are in — so you need different ballots for people voting at same place.
A real help in this would be: if we could check the person in the central voter registry in real time. That would have the annual listing of residents (not just voters)–you could instantly know whether they are in fact a resident at the household they say they are. This will also reduce fraud. Here is the core of his recommendations:
- 2 additional workers at each precinct to specifically deal with EDR
- Have those already on the rolls be able to vote straight through (a fast lane for those who registered early, to encourage traditional voter registration)
- Exclude EDR from those who have registered at town meetings, at least at this time to make it simpler — we could do EDR at town meetings at a later date.
- Address the issue of grace period and get rid of it. Right now people have a 6 month grace period so they could vote in their old towns. With EDR we could scrap that.
- Solve issues with primary voter participation. In order to vote in the primary you must be either unenrolled or a member of a party. This is not a big problem, but we need to figure out how to address party registration from old system?how many primary ballots does the SoS print? Right now he has to guess?now he?s going to have figure out how many to print of each party again.
- Assess the number of different language ballots needed. Obviously the same rights would have to be protected of Spanish speaking voters, but how would we estimate that under EDR? Similar issues with Chinese and Vietnamese ballots (at minimum).
- wire-up every polling place to contact the Central Voting Registry — this also assures the voter they’re getting the right ballot
- Don’t make change to check-out table — it’s been suggested that we get rid of it, but Galvin would not do that. It’s not duplicity, it’s a 2nd check to make sure right voter voted, and it also makes a mathematical check to make sure they have an accurate count of votes.
This was really the core of the talk, in my opinion, and nicely addresses most of the issues that were brought up (without me having to type out what was brought up!)
Rep. Bradley brought up a question of cost and how we will minimize it. Galvin answered that there were a number of ways to make this less expensive, and in addition there are federal grants that can help.
Frost: It sounds like you have 2 difference processes. Traditional process and EDR process: in one process there is ID the other is murky. Frost’s concerns appear to me to be mostly relating to federal elections. At points it’s hard to understand what point he is making, though — another person listening to him next to me agreed.
Galvin: The problem with voter ID is disenfranchisement. And the people most likely to be disenfranchised are the elderly. What do you say to an 85 year old whose family just convinced her to give up her license who walks into a polling place with no ID now?
There were more questions, but this post is already getting too long. Suffice to say that there was more back and force, and the rest of the hearing went something like this:
Numerous groups–NAACP, League of Women Voters, Urban League, MassVote, SEIU 1199, MassPIRG, Cam Kerry, Grace Ross, student groups, and election commissioners from Minnesota and Wisconsin (where EDR has been in place since the 1970s) all spoke. They generally hit the same points summarized above though in different ways. Main thing: fraud is not an issue, and this is about voter participation.
The town clerks association made a couple of interesting points when they spoke (around 3:45):
- This decision on EDR shouldn?t be made in a vacuum — there are other bills we need to pay attention to, like early voting. Let’s make sure they don’t conflict.
- Worries about lines: would people stand in line to register to vote, then stand in line to vote then standing in line to check out during in high turnout elections? Would this actually increase the amount of time it takes to vote?
- Clerks are already swamped getting people into the system. (I’m not sure this would be a problem if poll workers had access to put people into the central
voting system — I was unclear what she meant by this. - Costs — new handicap machines cost over $1,000?where would funding come from? [Would new machines be necessary? I doubt it.]
- 8pm cutoff. Could people who stood online at, say 7:59pm election day still register to vote that day and vote that day? This isn?t a case of being too busy. When you got and vote, if you?re on line by 8pm, you can vote. But would registering you to vote take more time? Would there be an earlier cutoff time to register to vote?
- What’s the timeline of implementation. Galvin mentioned it would probably happen in 2008, but not 2007. What specific timelines do clerks have to work within?
I think the town clerks brought up some interesting points that would have to be addressed. It seems like there’s a general agreement that it isn’t a question of whether EDR is right, it’s a matter of hammering out all the nuts and bolts. After the hearing, I went up to the committee chair and asked him how good a shot EDR had, given the overwhelming support it had at the hearing. He said it was a good sign that most of the representatives are on board, and that Galvin, Patrick and Murray are all on board as well and are pushing for it. But we shouldn’t underestimate how much the town clerks will also slow down the process. What’s more, most of the Representatives didn’t stay for a lot of the great talks given at the hearing and they have to get the message. (I can understand why they left, though – a lot of it was repetitive.)
One last note. At the end of the meeting, by which time the vast majority of folks had left, an 85 year old woman got up and spoke. She lived in small towns in Maine for awhile and has been an activist for some time now. She described in detail activism she has done?fighting for special needs (which didn’t have that name then), and affordable housing. Addressing the clerks, who had long since left, she said they should fight for the budget money to put the money in the right place in the towns. The clerks should pursue their own help if they need more money from the budget. The woman sometimes rambled, but I have to say, this was democracy at work. Anybody can address the State Representatives (Bradley and Augustus mostly) in the same way anybody from a major advocacy organization can.
On that note, citizen journalism, signing off!
The 21 day waiting period is insanely long. I’d prefer it were zero (SDR), but why not reduce that 21 to, say, 10 now. In fact, they really should be done in conjunction, because right now if EDR passes and 20 days before the election you decide you’ll want to [register and] vote, you have to wait until election day and do both, when clearly the system would prefer to get you registered ahead of time, both because they can process the paperwork within a few days instead of immediately and because they’ll get a better estimate of the staff and number of ballots necessary.
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So, why not reduce that 21 day limit, which both (a) provides an improvement before we do get EDR, and (b) will help the EDR process by getting a few more folks registered before election day, thereby keeping the EDR line shorter come election day.
We’ll see what happens in the negotiation, but the town clerks’ association agreed with you, stomv, and recommended that the EDR legislation contain a provision dropping the regular registration deadline to 14 days. This could help decrease the load of EDR registrants.
if we’re going to keep any limit on when regular registration can take place, and as long as we keep having elections on Tuesdays, then the Friday before is the earliest the deadline should be.
As a former Asst. Election Commissioner in Worcester, what is involved in the verification process is complicated, and usually done by the US.Post Office.
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I spoke to the Worcester Exec. Dir. yesterday, (who is leaving in mid – June to head up the city of Newton) and he said, it might be OK (EDR) – (IF every city and town were on the same computerized system; but we are not yet). They asked him to testify and he said he preferred not to, because the Dir. & Clerks and anyone in charge in a city or town is bound by Mass. law. As keepers of the Constitutional records of the elections, and that it would not be right to comment on something that would change the rules of how he must uphold current laws. (I am para – phrasing some of this…we were having a conversation and I did not write everything down.)
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As it happens now, if someone currently insists that they vote at a place not their own, (makes a scene) their info is taken (we accept it on and there ballot is placed in a separate compartment (not run through the usual Optical scan) they are told by the poll worker that they can vote at that time (without verification), BUT that their vote WILL NOT COUNT unless there is a tie in the ballots and they must be recounted.
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In the 5 years I’ve been here I do not believe that Worcester has ever been in that situation and that perhaps it happen only one ballot or two in each of the 50 polling places in each election.
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So, 3 weeks may be more than enough time for Boston or Worcester but for the part time administrative asst. in Northfield that wears about 6 other hats in town, 3 weeks may just about enough time…….STATEWIDE election system to connect every town the same way with the same info, to me is the only way to go, and until we can do that without errors. I’m still skeptical, I’ve seen and heard most of the excuses. And everyday voters still are lazy and don’t change address, marital name changes, etc. So once or remember to bring correct ID.
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We shall see…….
As a member of the Joint Committee on Election Laws and a co-sponsor of the Same-Day Election Registration (EDR) bill, I was at the hearing on Wednesday.
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I was really encouraged by the turnout at the hearing, and the testimony in support of the bill.
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Last year I chaired the Election Law Committee’s Sub-committee on EDR, working with the town clerks to gain their support for the bill.
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I am a strong supporter of EDR because it is a disgrace that in Massachusetts and most other states, citizens who are otherwise able and willing to vote are denied that right on Election Day. Our democracy is made weaker by fewer citizens voting in elections, which makes it more difficult for elected officials to champion broad reforms to improve the lives of constituents.
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While the opposition is focused on whipping up doubt on the bill through allegiations of fraud that are exaggerated or falsified, those some opponents never seem particuliarly concerned with the damage to democracy and civil rights that occurs whenever an eligible voter is denied the right to vote on Election Day.
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It’s important to remember that this bill will mostly help people who thought they were registered to vote, but due to a glitch in the system find themselves at the polls without their name appearing. For example, many citizens who registered through the Motor Voter law find that their registration didn’t carry over to the town or city that they live in. For this they should be denied their right to vote?
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The impact of EDR is not about tons of Americans suddenly waking up on Election Day and deciding they want to vote, but generally a group of citizens who thought they were already registered to vote, and being able to cast that vote at the polls through EDR.
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There is great enthusiasm for supporting this bill amongst Democratic activists, as I saw at the Democratic State Convention when a Break-Out session that Sen. Augustus and I moderated was absolutely packed.
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EDR’s time has come, so let’s focus on getting the bill out of the committee and onto the House and Senate floors for final passage by the Governor.
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– Jamie
…that MA allows for casting a provisional ballot. It seems to me that a suitable compromise would be to allow an unregistered voter to “election day register”, cast a provisional ballot, and then later determine whether the unregistered voter was eligible to cast the ballot.
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If the number of provisional ballots so cast might decide an election, of course the city and town clerks should investigate whether the unregistered voter was eligible to vote (other than the registration time period), and proceed with the investigation. Of course, that would require that the ballot not be secret (the person casting the provisional ballot would have to identify him- or her-self on the ballot so that the investigation could proceed.)
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Actually, I would go further. Whether or not the number of provisional ballots so cast might decide an election, the city and town clerks should proceed with their investigations, and, if it turns out that they are eligible to vote, put them on the election rolls.
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Issue solved.
see my post above…..there is no need for a war to break out at a polling place. And in that instance a vote is cast…….it may just not count….but that is a minuscule minority as opposed to those who will vote legitimately.
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Fix the state system first then take the vote……or we could be in a real pickle!
As someone who has sometimes spoken near the end of hearings when most everyone has left the room, it makes me happy that someone who spoke near the end of this hearing ended up “published” here. Thanks for staying through the end.