Good gravy. Is there anything this creature won’t say?
ROMNEY: …you said the person is going to be in Guantanamo. I’m glad they’re at Guantanamo. I don’t want them on our soil. I want them in Guantanamo where they don’t get the access to lawyers they get when they’re on our soil. I don’t want them in our prisons. I want them there. Some people have said we ought to close Guantanamo. My view is, we ought to double Guantanamo. We ought to make sure that the terrorists… (APPLAUSE) … and there’s no question but that in a setting like that, where you have the ticking bomb, that the president of the United States, not the CIA interrogator, the president of the United States has to make the call and enhanced interrogation techniques have to be used. Not torture, but enhanced interrogation techniques, yes.
No access to lawyers. Because if they had access to lawyers, they might be able to prove they’re not terrorists, and that would be bad, because we already know they’re terrorists, otherwise they wouldn’t be there, and there are surely more of them, so let’s double it.
Applause, yes, they all applauded. “Enhanced interrogation techniques”, oh yes indeed. (I don’t watch “24”, so I guess I’m seriously missing out on a major bit of the Zeitgeist here.)
The ease and fluency with which Romney and others play to that fascistic streak in our culture is pretty amazing. It’s like we’re all part of some vast social experiment, like Milgram’s electrical shocks, or the Stanford prison experiment. It’s pretty easy to be sadistic. What we imagine to be our core of integrity is actually quite fragile.
(Credit, of course, to McCain for not being so quick to despair in our electorate’s basic decency.)
are you more interested in protecting the rights of the Islamic fascists then protecting us from further attacks?
But I should ask you, why are you more interested in helping rapists and murderers rape and murder from their prison cells than in protecting innocent grandmothers?
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Unless you want to eliminate due process altogether, the raping murderists win.
…we don’t know that they are Islamic Fascists. They are alleged terrorists. Once we start sentencing people without due process of law we’ve alrealy lost by becoming fascists ourselves.
The terrorists hate us because we are free. The only way to defeat terrorism is to eliminate freedom.
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Than no head at all
aren’t criminals per se.
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Until they’ve had a fair trial with adequate representation, we can’t very well call them criminals in the United States, now can we?
Wants them in Guatanimo.
Today it is the alleged islamic fascists that are stripped of their rights, but tomorrow it may be some other group (perhaps be Communists, immigrants, people with dark skin or funny accents, or other groups that have historically been persecuted in this country). Justice has to be applied equally to everyone, or it means nothing. This country isn’t worth protecting from further attacks if it means giving up justice. I would rather have terrorists coming in freely than have the government holding people in prison without charging them of crimes and then finding them guilty in a fair trial. I would rather take my chances that someone might set off a bomb near me than take my chances that the government will arbitrarily decide that I am a terrorist. George Bush and many others in the government have committed treason multiple times. The Bush administration is currently the biggest threat facing this country. We should be using all means we have at our disposal to remove them from power. Starting with investigating to determine exactly what they have done, then impeachment once we have enough clear evidence. With clear statements all along the way that Bush has been committing treason. He should be getting censured regularly by congress.
Another idea, maybe we should actually try to go after terrorists.