And I mean this question to be an honest one. I think it’s important to view the media with a critical eye and this is an extremely close call. If the fundraising isn’t news, then the only thing news-worthy about the fundraising becomes the question of whether the governor is a hypocrite. And that seems to me to be a matter of perspective and opinion.
To spend a brief moment substantively defending the Governor, did anyone really think that money would be entirely removed from politics? Did any one of Patrick’s supporters really wish and hope he wouldn’t raise any money from perfectly ethical, albeit corporate, sources?
If Philips thinks that corporate fundraising puts Patrick in an ethical bind, he ought to speak to the editor of the opinion section.
joeltpatterson says
is the Professor Berry quote. It’s insulting in its tone to the Governor.
Massachusetts Liberal nails it, I think, in saying the Globe is a sucker for the “perfect quote.”
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Frank Phillips did not dig up the numbers on how much money those corporations, Liberty Mutual Group and NSTAR, would pay if the tax loopholes are closed. Nor did he find any evidence of Patrick giving up on closing the loopholes. All he got was a zinger quote from a Tufts professor.
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Remember how Deval’s phone call got Frank Phillips’ a frontpager? Turned out to be nothing. Frank Phillips is printing up a lot of nothing this year. It’ll be news when Frank Phillips actually has something.
david says
is always good for an unintentionally hilarious quote. He seems still to be quite annoyed that Patrick managed to pulverize his Democratic and Republican opponents while running a style of campaign that the good Professor didn’t think could work. So now, having been thoroughly embarrassed, he gets to spew crap like this:
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Um, no. His supporters, “Professor,” understand that, under the current rules, raising money is a necessity. His supporters also believe, however, that the Governor will continue to push for closing corporate tax loopholes, even though probably everyone at the fundraiser opposes that bill. If Patrick backs off, that’s when we’ll be disappointed. But so far, there’s no evidence whatsoever of that.
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Maybe our “Professor” should actually talk to a Patrick supporter before spouting off on what they think. Oh, but that would involve the real world — doesn’t always mix with the academic lifestyle.
yellow-dog says
Globe reporters consistently rely on the same sources for every political story. Jeff Berry on politics. Michael Widmer on anything economically oriented. Freeper Barbara Anderson on anything affecting taxes.
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Incidentally, Big Tent Democrat has a post on Jeff Berry at Talk Left. Commenters are trying to figure out who the hell he is. http://www.talkleft….
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On the positive side, maybe we could start a list of sources the Globe could consider and send it to them.
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Tax Policy: John Fox http://www.mtholyoke…
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P.S. Ed, I excerpted and linked to your post on my blog.
raj says
Globe reporters consistently rely on the same sources for every political story.
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Most stenographers–er, reporters–have a Rolodex that they go to for pithy quotations on beats that they cover. It beats having to actually go out and uncover anything, and it’s probable that, after they get sources of pithy quotations, they don’t go to look for more.
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It’s the same with the TV and newspaper punditocracy. Why is David Broder still in the WaPo and Washington Week, why is George Will still in the WaPo and ABC Sunday morning, and why is Mark Shields (or idiot David Brooks, for that matter) still on Friday’s PBS’s News Hour?
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NSTAR pays tax on its poles already, so the pole tax doesn’t affect them.
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Check-the-box loophole affect neither. Both Liberty and NSTAR are corps for federal and state tax purposes.
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Combined reporting has no effect on NSTAR. It’s a purely Mass, not multi-state revenue base.
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I agree with Ed. No story here. Biz as usual. Romney had corporate fundraisers. Patrick has corporate fundraisers. No diff.
squaringtheglobe says
It is certainly a case of deeds not matching rhetoric, in that Patrick criticized his predecessor for fundraising among firms doing busines with the Big Dig. His ?purity in fundraising? rhetoric proves to be buncomb, as his political opponents said.
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No harm done by this meeting, however, except to the illusions of anyone who thought Patrick could govern in some realm ?above? politics.
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Look, I don’t think this is wrong, but I do think the outrage meters would be reading much higher here at BMG if Mitt did the same thing.
ed-prisby says
But my point was more about whether, strictly speaking, this is “news.” If there was no reasonable doubt that Patrick was acting hypocritically, it would be news. But Frank Phillips’s opinions are not, in and of themselves, newsworthy.
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I guess I’m sensitive to this topic, because a pet peeve of mine is when people tell me what to think. And that’s what Phillips and the Globe are doing here. They dont just tell me Patrick met with corporate fundaraisers. They take the next step and tell me it’s wrong. (I picked the same fight recently with the Newton TAB.)
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noternie says
If only inarguable facts were in the paper, we’d have a lot more trees in the world.
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You’re right; this isn’t hard/breaking news. But it’s not an editorial, either. It is probably more accurately labeled an analysis piece. And those can be anywhere in the paper.
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You obviously don’t agree with the basic premise for the analysis. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t worth discussion.
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I honestly haven’t given the premise much thought. I’m more interested in keeping straight news straight and labeling anything else otherwise.
squaringtheglobe says
Welcome to my world. They do that on pretty much a daily basis.
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It’s easy to make fun of the Berry quote, but you can’t deny that Patrick is now doing precisely the sorts of things for which he criticized others. Not a big story, but a story — and exactly the kind of story that gets written about politicians who hold themselves out to be different and better than their brethren.
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We sometimes forget that obedience is better than sacrifice. It is harder, too… Me, I think Deval Patrick has much much more character and spine than any here give him credit (understandable why, tho’). And after all, if that’s why we voted for him (I did) shouldn’t we trust that? I do.
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I’m not going to comment on the breathless prose (much), but I think that political fund-raising is news and should be reported, though soberly.
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The weird juxtapositions in the story–fund raising versus idealism, I guess–remind me of Killer Coke and of some of Reilly’s anti-Patrick stuff in the primaries that was supposed to make his progressive base run screaming back to our tofu. Apparently we Patrick supporters are supposed to be terribly disillusioned about something.
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Most of us Patrick supporters always knew who he was – he took corporate jobs, he took goverment Justice Dpt jobs, he worked for nonprofits for the disenfranchised. We have always had realistic expectations and understand that this election wasn’t just about the issues, it was about character, and spine (as someone mentioned upthread).
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What we saw – still see – in Patrick is an idealistic yet pragmatic upstanding and honest guy, even though the system sucks, even though the game is rigged.
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I get ragged on all the time for being some sort of Patrick “apologist” or something. But first, he’s gotta do something to be apologized for before that’s really the truth. I feel he’s living up to the expectations I had in the campaign, and that his tenure was about the long haul. No matter what opinion the Globe is trying to shove down our throats this week.
farnkoff says
Sal DiMasi has also received a boatload of money from Mintz Levin-affiliated attorneys. Unlike Patrick, however, DiMasi seems to generally do what these folks want him to do. Patrick should not be taking money from these guys, but it does not seem like they have the kind of pull with him that they have with entrenched career pols like DiMasi, Scaccia, and so on. The Globe has dedicated very little ink to DiMasi’s fundraising, and has never registered any skepticism with regard to DiMasi’s motivations for stonewalling Patrick’s proposals for corporate tax reform. The Globe has been unbalanced in its coverage of the Municipal Partnership Act, and the Herald has been predictably loud and idiotic about it. It seems like the mainsteam media is still smarting from the lecture Patrick gave them in one of his early press events. “Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation” flak Michael Widmer, the Associated Industries, big-business crony Samuel R. Tyler- these glorified lobbyists are quoted more often than the governor himself in the pages of the Globe. Something seems to be going rotten on Morrissey Boulevard.
lynne says
So well put. This thread is great, because it’s saying all the things I’ve been feeling but hadn’t figured out how to explain. Thanks!
capital-d says
The Globe has used the same lousy fundrasing coverage on the legislature as they have on the Governor’s (ie., Rogers)
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I am a fan of the Governor but not of the hypocrisy of his supporters on this page!
farnkoff says
You’re right that Patrick should not take money from corporations, lawyers, or lobbyists. However, what I was saying was that Patrick’s policies, proposals, and stances do not appear to reflect the same degree of untoward influence as the stances of other politicians. When Sal DiMasi says “Not a chance” of eliminating corporate tax loopholes or giving towns the ability to initiate a meals tax in order to ease the burden on redidential property taxpayers, I wonder whose interests he is representing. When Patick seems to go above and beyond in his efforts to get these measures through, it appears that he is going against the desires of such political powerhouses as Verizon, the Associated Industries of Massachusetts, NStar, and the various clientele of Mintz Levin.
petr says
Maybe it is only I, but all I see is the hatchet in Phillips’ sweaty trembling hands… Somebody oughta take that thing away before he hurt hisself.
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It seems to me that Patrick never promised to stop taking donations so I don’t see where this small sample space (25K…?) that would occur under either change or no change, tells us anything about anything.
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In many many ways Patrick has already started to change the culture (I never saw/heard Romney nor Weld give so much as ten minutes to radio…yet I hear the Guv on NPR and talk radio all the time being interviewed and questioned by real people) by being accessible and available rather than shutting himself up with just the big money. The way to change isn’t to exclude anyone, but to include all…
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eddiecoyle says
I fail to appreciate the distinction made supporters of Governor Patrick that the critical distinction between Romney’s/Cellucci’s/Weld’s coziness with Big Dig contractors and law firms and Deval’s tapping of wads of $$$ from his pals at NSTAR and Liberty Mutual Insurance Company.
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Does my participation at the Deval Patrick Committee’s Strengthening our Communities event at the State House this afternoon actually buy me the same level of access and influence to the Patrick administration as the business and corporate legal participants munching down on their scrambled eggs, bacon, french toast, and cereal at the power breakfast sponsored by the NSTAR and Liberty Mutual Insurance head honchos? Somehow, I
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After sixteen years of Massachusetts Governors dutifully serving the corporate interests of big business to the long-term detriment of Bay State taxpayers and consumers (e.g. The Big Dig), would it be too much to request that Governor Patrick decline the invite to the next influence-peddling corporate breakfast at Mintz Levin or the Sheraton Boston. Alternatively, Gov. Patrick, I suggest dining at 8:00 am with the hoi polloi at the Park Street Dunkin Donuts. How about it, Gov. Patrick? I’ll even buy the box of Joe and dozen donuts for the Cabinet to join us.
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This is nothing new.
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cadmium says
It was the rally for municipality initiatives. In a way I thought it was the best speech I have heard from him. If he can pull this off he will have kept two of the big promises of his campaign in a short time: supporting marriage equality and property tax relief.
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yellow-dog says
it’s a narrative problem. Phillips is stuck on the same narrative: politician criticizes big money interests and then takes money from them. He’s a progressive Democrat, so he must be a hypocrite. If the story were about Romney, he wouldn’t be played off as a hypocrite but as someone who was in bed with big business.
It’s the system that is corrupt, not the individual players. Phillips mindlessly follows the narrative of “we can’t trust our public officials,” which distracts from the actual problem of financing public campaigns.
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ryepower12 says
I would be “conceding that there’s little or no difference between Patrick and Romney,” if the policies coming out of Patrick’s administration were similar in any way, shape or form as Romney’s. However, they aren’t. You obviously have a few gripes with Patrick’s administration and maybe I should look into them more. Obviously, he’s not perfect. If you included links, I would have followed them.
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dave-from-hvad says
I agree with you that in many ways, Patrick truly is making a fresh start on Beacon Hill regarding tax loopholes and developing a new relationship with municipalities. I’m disappointed in his apparent embrace of the privatization expansion, particularly of human services, that began under Weld. I should have provided a link regarding the Fernald situation. Here’s a good one to start with: http://www.boston.co…