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Ogonowski by 2 points

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My prediction. Ogonowski by 2 points.  What’s yours.

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  2. I was sure you’d pick a Tsongas victory, EaBo!  How about some full numbers to explain your pov?

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    Says I:

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    Tsongas  50%
    Ogonowski 43%
    Murphy  5%
    Hayes  2%
    Thompson  —

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    Massachusetts finally sends a woman to Washington DC.

    • “Massachusetts finally sends a woman to Washington DC.”

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      …not quite.

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      My district sent a woman to Washington before it was stylish. One who ran on her own name.

      • My district sent a woman to Washington before it was stylish. One who ran on her own name.

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        Heckler ran using her married name.  Just as Tsongas is doing now.  I suppose that Heckler might have been elected if she ran using her maiden name “Margaret Mary O’Shaughnessy,”  but we will never know, will we?

        • ..as you know exactly what I meant.

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          I’m not going to play semantical tiddly-winks with you, but thanks for asking.

  8. As much as I’d like to see him win, I don’t think Ogonowski can pull it off in Massachusetts. The state is just too blue and the Tsongas name is too well known.

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    However, it really speaks to the weakness of Niki Tsongas as a candidate for this race to be as close as it is. She should have run away with this based on name recognition alone. Or perhaps voters realized she is nothing more then the name.

    • both candidates had name recognition, but both were also unknowns personally.  it’s not that neither has anything besides name recognition.  it is that both had to work to overcome that name identity and to educate the voters on who they each actually are. 

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      i see name recognition as equally being a help and a hinderance for both of them.  actually, it may have been more of a hinderance for ogonowski, since his brother wasn’t known for anything more than being murdered.  whereas tsongas’s husband was known for being an active member of the legislature who accomplished x, y, and z for his district.

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      in any case, i think they’ve both done a decent job of overcoming presuppositions associated with their famous names and have shown us a bit of who they each really are.  Tsongas is smart as a whip, quick on her feet and capable.  Ogonowski clearly does what his is told, but says he is an independent man who will vote against things and stirs up fear. 

      • Tsongas is smart as a whip, quick on her feet and capable.  Ogonowski clearly does what his is told, but says he is an independent man who will vote against things and stirs up fear.

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        If all of this is true, why is the race so close? Why did Niki need to rely on so much out-of-state support? Why isn’t she running away with the whole thing?

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        Again, I think she’ll win, but if she’s “smart as a whip, quick on her feet an capable,” she should have absolutely crushed Ogonowski.

        • well first, we won’t know how close it really is until after the polls close tonight.

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          but if you’re correct and the race really is/was that close and og wins, it just means that his scare tactics worked better on the votes of MA-05 than her demonstration of brains.  bush ’04 is a fine example of the electorate voting out of fear. og is relying on that tactic being just as applicable now in this district as it was 3 years ago on a national average.

          • but if you’re correct and the race really is/was that close and og wins, it just means that his scare tactics worked better on the votes of MA-05 than her demonstration of brains.

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            If Ogonowski wins or the race is close, it’s because his scare tactics worked?

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            If Niki loses, it’s all to blame on scare tactics and the inability of the voters to recognize her intellect?

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            Perhaps it would be because the voters felt Ogonowski would better represent them in Washington. Or is that not possible?

            • they buy into the scare tactics, so by definition they think a  person hell-bent on whacking at the scarries will represent them best.

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              i’d like to say that there is more to Og’s campaign than that, but he has made sure that there isn’t.  a vote for Og is a vote for scare tactics.

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