I mean when was the last time a state senate race rated a TV advertisement in the Commonwealth?
Hell the last time I ever saw a TV commercial for a state senate race was in Florida! Has it ever happened here?
Moreover there seems to be a slight flub in the voice over, the line reads “as Senator I’ll…” with the necessary qualifier “State Senator”…a chunk of the audience is liable to think that CM is running against John Kerry!
True…the “state senate” line is found written on the closing placard, but that flashes by damn quickly, if you ask me.
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I could be wrong, but I’m not sure this is gonna fly, be interesting to see what happens.
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How is this desperate? Regardless of where one stands on the race, it’s a positive piece intended to help build name recognition. So what if Charley Murphy went on TV? He had the ability to do so. If other candidates chose not to, or couldn’t because they didn’t raise enough to allow them to, how is that Charley Murphy’s problem?
“necessary qualifer State Senator” necessary where exactly? In campaign finance law? In federal election law? Is it possible the ad is aimed at voters actually paying attention to the race?
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I heard “progressive” in the ad. Murphy is spending money to say he supports progressive positions. Damn the man!
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For example, when I asked him about his position on the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative in 2006 and he brushed me off, saying he really hadn’t thought about it.
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Or his early vote against marriage rights. Lots of folks came around to the right position on this, and Murphy did so much sooner than many, but the fact that he had to be persuaded at all tarnishes his progressive credentials for me.
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Or, how about Murphy’s early support for Reilly for Governor… then Gabrielli, only finally embracing Patrick after his primary victory? Is that the mark of a progressive Democrat or a moderate Democrat, who is now running to the left to win the support of a broader, less conservative district?
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Murphy has expressed opposition to local options taxes – I’d tend see the truly progressive position as giving municipalities more options to fund services, so that we aren’t stuck trying to fund our needs with property taxes.
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Or, look up Murphy’s past record on Mass Scorecard. You’ll find him diverging from Democratic party platform positions in past years, when Marzilli scored 100%.
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Why should we suppose Murphy will suddenly become a leader for progressive causes if he wins election to the state senate, after he’s built a record over the last 10 years as a locally focused pol? Can you name one piece of significant legislation to Murphy’s credit?
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Don’t misunderstand me: Burlington could have done a lot worse than Murphy – it’s a conservative town. I’ve voted for him, and if he stays Burlington’s rep, may well do so again. But the 4th Middlesex senate district is more progressive and deserves a more forward-thinking and accomplished senator. That’s why Marzilli has my vote.
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Bean —
I couldn’t disagree more with your assessment of the district and general comments. Didn’t Billerica just vote for Ogonowski (The Republican) for Congress over the Democratic candidate in the general election?
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God knows if your off on that simple fact, how can you have any creditability regarding your other comments?
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Especially when you openly admit supporting Murphy’s opponent? stop slinging the mud.
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And at least Bean is up front about who she is supporting. At this point in the race I have to belive that any one posting on BMG has picked their horse.
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It would be much more interesting to hear about why you are supporting a candidate rather than attacks on other posters.
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Billerica (like Burlington) is a conservative town? Are you conveniently forgetting that the district includes a good bit of Lexington and all of Arlington?
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How interesting that you regard my bringing up Murphy’s record as “mud” – for of course everything in my post except the personal recollection about the RGGI is a matter of public record.
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Consider this math. If Murphy gets 90% of Burlington, that’s 11% of the district vote total.
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If Marzilli gets 60% of Arlington, that’s 22% of the district vote total.
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Marzilli stands a better chance of getting 60% of Arlington than Murphy does of getting 90% of Burlington.
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If Marzilli gets 50% of Lexington, that’s 7.5% of the district vote, and Marzilli is now at about 30% of the total vote without leaving Arlington and Lexington.
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With Donnelly and Murphy splitting the anti-Marzilli vote in Arlington, Natale pulling hometown votes in Woburn, and no favorite in Billerica, I don’t see any way for another candidate to get above 28% of the vote.
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UNLESS, of course, the turnout is peculiar. That’s why every ounce of energy in this race is going to be on GOTV, not TV.
I mean when was the last time a state senate race rated a TV advertisement in the Commonwealth?
Hell the last time I ever saw a TV commercial for a state senate race was in Florida! Has it ever happened here?
Moreover there seems to be a slight flub in the voice over, the line reads “as Senator I’ll…” with the necessary qualifier “State Senator”…a chunk of the audience is liable to think that CM is running against John Kerry!
True…the “state senate” line is found written on the closing placard, but that flashes by damn quickly, if you ask me.
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I could be wrong, but I’m not sure this is gonna fly, be interesting to see what happens.
How is this desperate? Regardless of where one stands on the race, it’s a positive piece intended to help build name recognition. So what if Charley Murphy went on TV? He had the ability to do so. If other candidates chose not to, or couldn’t because they didn’t raise enough to allow them to, how is that Charley Murphy’s problem?
Yeah, that’s exactly what it is. That’s exactly why it is ineffective within five days of the election.
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It’s a very nice ad, but not money well spent.
“necessary qualifer State Senator” necessary where exactly? In campaign finance law? In federal election law? Is it possible the ad is aimed at voters actually paying attention to the race?
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I heard “progressive” in the ad. Murphy is spending money to say he supports progressive positions. Damn the man!
For example, when I asked him about his position on the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative in 2006 and he brushed me off, saying he really hadn’t thought about it.
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Or his early vote against marriage rights. Lots of folks came around to the right position on this, and Murphy did so much sooner than many, but the fact that he had to be persuaded at all tarnishes his progressive credentials for me.
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Or, how about Murphy’s early support for Reilly for Governor… then Gabrielli, only finally embracing Patrick after his primary victory? Is that the mark of a progressive Democrat or a moderate Democrat, who is now running to the left to win the support of a broader, less conservative district?
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Murphy has expressed opposition to local options taxes – I’d tend see the truly progressive position as giving municipalities more options to fund services, so that we aren’t stuck trying to fund our needs with property taxes.
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Or, look up Murphy’s past record on Mass Scorecard. You’ll find him diverging from Democratic party platform positions in past years, when Marzilli scored 100%.
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Why should we suppose Murphy will suddenly become a leader for progressive causes if he wins election to the state senate, after he’s built a record over the last 10 years as a locally focused pol? Can you name one piece of significant legislation to Murphy’s credit?
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Don’t misunderstand me: Burlington could have done a lot worse than Murphy – it’s a conservative town. I’ve voted for him, and if he stays Burlington’s rep, may well do so again. But the 4th Middlesex senate district is more progressive and deserves a more forward-thinking and accomplished senator. That’s why Marzilli has my vote.
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Bean —
I couldn’t disagree more with your assessment of the district and general comments. Didn’t Billerica just vote for Ogonowski (The Republican) for Congress over the Democratic candidate in the general election?
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God knows if your off on that simple fact, how can you have any creditability regarding your other comments?
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Especially when you openly admit supporting Murphy’s opponent? stop slinging the mud.
And at least Bean is up front about who she is supporting. At this point in the race I have to belive that any one posting on BMG has picked their horse.
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It would be much more interesting to hear about why you are supporting a candidate rather than attacks on other posters.
Billerica (like Burlington) is a conservative town? Are you conveniently forgetting that the district includes a good bit of Lexington and all of Arlington?
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How interesting that you regard my bringing up Murphy’s record as “mud” – for of course everything in my post except the personal recollection about the RGGI is a matter of public record.
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City or town PR TP Gonsalves Havern
Arlington 21 21 2,028 7,447
Billerica 11 11 2,140 2,177
Burlington 6 6 1,484 1,685
Lexington 6 6 1,152 2,687
Woburn 12 12 3,433 1,723
Totals 56 56 10,237 15,719
You can see the proportion of votes from each city or town. (Communities in geographical order.)
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Arlington 9475 (36.5%)
Lexington 3839 (14.8%)
Woburn 5156 (19.9%)
Burlington 3169 (12.2%)
Billerica 4317 (16.6%)
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Consider this math. If Murphy gets 90% of Burlington, that’s 11% of the district vote total.
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If Marzilli gets 60% of Arlington, that’s 22% of the district vote total.
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Marzilli stands a better chance of getting 60% of Arlington than Murphy does of getting 90% of Burlington.
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If Marzilli gets 50% of Lexington, that’s 7.5% of the district vote, and Marzilli is now at about 30% of the total vote without leaving Arlington and Lexington.
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With Donnelly and Murphy splitting the anti-Marzilli vote in Arlington, Natale pulling hometown votes in Woburn, and no favorite in Billerica, I don’t see any way for another candidate to get above 28% of the vote.
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UNLESS, of course, the turnout is peculiar. That’s why every ounce of energy in this race is going to be on GOTV, not TV.
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