The Clinton campaign has a little video that explains how the Iowa caucuses work. Say what you will about the Iowa caucuses, but at least Iowans can register to vote at the caucus.
In Massachusetts, people who are not registered to vote on the day of the primary cannot vote. (Apparently, people cannot register in Iowa on the same day as an election.) There is, however, movement to change this unfortunate situation. So, say what you will about the Iowa caucuses, at least they make it easier for people to take part who want to take part.
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mcrd says
and of the registered voters, many of them can’t be bothered going to the poles, there is no excuse for some lazy nitwit dragging his/her fat ass to the polling place seeling to vote. You wanna exercise your franchise to vote. Go to town hall and register the necessary amount of days to be put on the roles. This crap re walking up to a polling place and demanding a ballot is nonsense. We have enough fraudulent and tainted elections. Half the illegal aliens in USA would be voting, even though they can’t speak the language or read and write in English. Is tat what you really want. People not even entitled to be in this country deciding our elections, Perhpas these illegal aliens will form their own third party and wrest control of our government away from those legally entitled to participate. The law of unintended consequence. Like the Irish taking over the northeastern cities nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Ward bosses and machines.
raj says
and of the registered voters, many of them can’t be bothered going to the poles
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…there aren’t any polls at the poles. There might be some polls in Warsaw, but it would be difficult for an American to vote at them. Apparently, a lot of the Poles used to avoid the polls, too, particularly while the evil twins were running the country. Recently, though, sufficient numbers of Poles went to the polls to get rid of one of at least of the evil twins.
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BTW, it isn’t particularly difficult to minimize the likelihood of “fraudulent and tainted elections.” Do it like in Europe. An election is on an individual issue. Put your “X” on a ballot for the candidate and/or party you want (in Germany, there are actually two ballots, one for candidate, the other party), and deposit the ballot in the ballot box. It simplifies counting the votes. In the 1998 federal elections in Germany, we (in the US) knew the results within 4 hours of the closing of the polls–they knew the number of direct Mandats and the number of party Mandats for each party, and the number of holdover Mandats for each party. And, of course, the winning party (or coalition) took power the next day: nothing like these “lame ducks” as in the US which may do mischief. State and local elections are held on different days, with similarly simple ballots.
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Got a source? Because, I checked. According to the FEC, there were 215,694,000 people who were of voting age on election day 2004. Now, drop the 12,000,000 illegal immigrants. Drop the 2,000,000 people in prison. Drop the millions more who are out of prison but live in states where convicted felons are never re-enfranchised.
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We’re at well under 200,000,000. That’s before we count those whos mental illness or developmental disability is too severe for voting, and before those who don’t vote on religious grounds.
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How many voted? If you muttered 122,295,345, you’d be right. For the mathematically challenged, thats over 61% of people eligible to register to vote who voted. Since clearly not every registered person voted, the number of people who are registered is certainly much higher than 122 million — meaning the number of people who are eligible to register to vote and who are registered is even higher than 61%.
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Yet you, without a citation, peg the number “around 50% ish”.
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It’s poll, not pole.
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It’s rolls, not roles.
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How many elections in the past 20 years have been swung by votes cast by ineligible voters? How about… none. Not a single example has been presented. Got one? Cite it. Otherwise, shove it.
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Let me get this straight: 6 million(ish) illegal immigrants — who don’t speak English, mind you — are going to risk presenting themselves to civil authorities [almost always with a policeman nearby] in an attempt to commit a federal crime that comes with a $10,000 fine and/or up to 5 years in prison, not to mention the not insignificant risk of deportation — to cast a single vote in a presidential election, where the odds of an individual swinging the outcome are infinitesimal? Lets even ignore the ones in California, Arizona, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, and New York, which haven’t had a close presidential race in years. Let’s just focus on New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado [maybe close in 08], and a handful of other states. The odds are still tremendously small, the risk huge, and the payout not so clear.
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Another claim with no reason or sources, just rambling.
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Now you’ve gone past the stupid side of bed to the just plain non-sensical.
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Blue Mass. Group: Reality-based commentary on politics and policy in Massachusetts and around the nation. At least make an effort, for the sake of us all.
raj says
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We have enough fraudulent and tainted elections
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but not in the way he would like it to be interpreted. It is highly probable that at least some elections have been tainted (and hence fraudulent) by the efforts of some to intimidate lawful voters, to inconvenience some and not others, and to fraudulently exclude them from voting (ref: the completely unreliable “felons lists”)
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It is actually rather amusing that MCRD is unwilling to acknowledge that.
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BTW, Hillary sings about as well as my tone-deaf mother. Hillary should at least learn how to change key when the pitch gets too high, if not just mouth the words. /tic