In two must-read posts (the first one here and the second one), Digby reminds us that not long ago, Democrats controlled the House, Senate, and White House. The rhetorically-gifted President had won with promise to put people first by enacting progressive change: Universal Health Coverage and progressive taxes based on energy that would conserve fuel and provide incentives to reduce greenhouse gases. No Republicans would vote for these ideas, but since Democrats controlled Congress and the White House, we should not have needed Republicans to enact what was right and in the national interest (though against the Republican Party’s interests).
But some Democrats thwarted the Democratic Agenda.
Just in case anyone’s forgotten or are too young to remember –the former Democratic senator from Oklahoma and current Unity 08 poobah, David Boren, is an egomaniac who stabbed Bill Clinton in the back repeatedly when he was trying to pass his economic plan in 1993. (As did Bob Kerrey and Sam Nunn, among others.) After months of kissing Boren’s ass and treating him like the perfumed prince he believes he is, Boren went on “Face The Nation” and announced that he just couldn’t support his president.
He had already insisted on getting rid of the proposed BTU tax and wanted a “compromise” that would have dropped all the new taxes on the wealthy and make up the money by capping Medicare and Medicaid and getting rid of Clinton’s planned EITC for the poor. He, like Bob Kerrey and many others, were obsessed with “fixing” social security and other “entitlements” in order to cure the deficit.
But there was one thing he believed in more than anything else:
From The Agenda:
Gore asked, what did Boren want changed in the plan in order to secure his vote?
Like a little list? Boren asked.
Yeah, Gore said.
Boren said he didn’t have little list. Raising the gas tax a nickel or cutting it a nickel or anything like that wouldn’t do it, he said. He had given his list to Moynihan like everybody else in the Finance Committee. It was over and done with, and Boren likened himself to a free agent in baseball. “I have the luxury of standing back here and looking at this,” Boren said. His test would be simple: Would it work? If not, it didn’t serve the national interest.
Gore said he was optimistic for the first time.
Boren shot back. “There’s nothing you can do for me or to me that will influence my decision on this matter.” he added. “I’m going to make it on the basis of what I think is right or wrong.”
Nobody responded for a moment. Clinton then stepped in. Why didn’t Boren think it was in the national interest? he asked.
It wasn’t bipartisan, Boren answered. To be successful in this country it had been demonstrated over and over, an effort had to be bipartisan, Clinton had even said so himself, Boren pointed out. Even most optimists, Boren said, thought they were still not even halfway there.
No Republican voted for the plan. Clinton knew that he would never get any Republicans to vote for a plan to raise taxes on the wealthy after the handful who had done so in 1990 were burned at the stake by the conservative movement. But sure, they would have voted for a “compromise” that raised no taxes, dropped all investment in infrastructure, any help for the poor and capped spending on the sick to cure the deficit. That’s bipartisanship, village-style.
More Americans would have been much better off if Clinton could have enacted the agenda he campaigned on. (And back then Bill Kristol was telling the GOP if Universal Healthcare passed, the Democrats would have a lock on another generation of voters) But the progressive agenda was thwarted by Democrats who praised “bipartisanship.” Whichever Dem gets elected this 2008, they will need the votes of a handful of conservative Dem Senators and maybe even Joe Lieberman’s vote to get progressive legislation enacted. The next President can’t let these Democratic Senators defect, and by default freeze America in Republican policies for 4 more years.
ArchPundit of Illinois puts his finger on what leaves me uneasy about voting for Obama in the primary. One of Obama’s faults could leave us without actual results of change, if he’s President.
What are Obama’s faults?
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I tend to disagree with the common narrative that [Obama] is too conciliatory-towards Republicans, but I think he does go out of his way to excuse bad Democratic votes. I think that’s why we haven’t heard enough out of him on issues like FISA–he has some sense of loyalty to the party that is overdone. I don’t worry about him being weak in front of Republicans–I think he’s much stronger than people realize when it comes to partisan warfare. Where I think he is weak is when he goes up against other Democrats and he doesn’t press them hard enough to do the right thing.
He may bring the Democratic Party more voters by talking about bipartisanship, and that’s fine. But when the national rhetoric of “bipartianship is a virtue” gets built up too much, “bipartisanship” becomes an easy figleaf for sticking America with Republican legislation & policies that most Americans didn’t want, but a few conservative Democratic Senators do want.
If Obama makes history by winning in 2008, I worry that he will repeat the history of 1993 and 1994, by not pushing Democratic Senators to do the right thing.
joeltpatterson says
Voting present, instead of yes or no.
mike-chelmsford says
The Republicans are filibustering everything in sight, a clear indication that they’re far more interested in political points than in advancing programs in our national interest. Their 360-degree turn on filibusters doesn’t bother their conscience in the least.
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p>They’ve politicized everything in sight, from elections to requiring creationist books at the Grand Canyon while prohibiting rangers from correctly stating canyon’s age. Everything.
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p>The level of corruption they tolerated within their ranks was unprecedented.
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p>Moderate Republicans have largely been driven from the party.
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p>We can negotiate with Iran, we can negotiate with Republicans. And I trust them about the same.
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p>I hope Obama’s just kidding when he talks about bipartisanship.
peter-porcupine says
Mike – these ‘unpopular’ ideas, like privitizing social security, are not liked on BMG – but MILLIONS of people DO think it’s a good idea.
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p>I’m not getting into a list-posting thing again about corruption in parties (Anything you can do, I can do worser…) – there are unworthy people in both parties; always have been, always will be.
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p>Bipartisan means compromise. If you cannot compromise, if your untainted ideal must be purer than fresh mountain air – then you’re right, we’ll always have deadlock.
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p>Back in 2006, I caught heck for suggesting that your Victory Margins were razor thin, and you might not like some of your new pro-life, pro-gun Democrats much, and that you would NOT sweep all conservative ideas into the sea – and that has proven correct, nonetheless.
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p>Not everyone in America wants progressive ideas on a silver platter. Never have, never will. That’s why we’ve done a 180 instead of a 360 on filibusters! :~)
sabutai says
I’ll donate $20 to the Republican Party.
You’ll donate $400 to the Democratic Party.
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p>Okay, let’s compromise, and average it out. You donate $190 to the Democratic Party.
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p>That’s the type of ‘bipartisan compromise’ that’s being offered. Anyone we could compromise with is no longer a Republican (Lincoln Chaffee, Mike Bloomberg, half the Kansas state government) or disgusted with the whole operation (Christine Todd Whitman).
mike-chelmsford says
It really bugs me when people defend the GOP with the “everyone does it” excuse. The Republican party has been far more corrupt and tolerated much more corruption within their ranks than the Democrats. Personally, I think this is because as a party, they dislike and disrespect government.
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p>The last time I looked into this, the ratio of corrupt Republican officials to Democrats was 5:1.
http://richardhowe.com/?p=527
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p>The solution isn’t to compromise with Republicans, the party that’s willing to tamper with elections and bury science (global warming, evolution, stem cell research) in order to advance their agenda. You just can’t sit down to play cards with people who cheat. The answer is to deal them out.
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p>Though Republican officials are more easily corrupted, there’s also the problem of corporate Democrats and Republicans. We have to work aggressively to reduce the influence of money on our system.
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p>Edwards gets this.
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p>Joel, I don’t agree that’s a reasonable representation of what the average Bill Clinton backer thought she was voting for, if that’s what you mean.
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p>The #1 message was “the economy stupid” (“don’t forget health care” was a throw-in, and it wasn’t universal, and it wasn’t specific).
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p>And I don’t remember him running on “We need to raise gases on gas.” In fact, I think that’s how he tried to frame Tsongas. Maybe I recall wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time.
bob-neer says
His goal, as I hear him, is not to compromise with the Bush administration and get played for a fool. Do you really think he and his supporters (like me, incidentally) are that naive. Go ahead and say so if you do, but explain to me how change can be accomplished with 5-15% of the electorate: the percentage of the general population that, based on poll results, supports, let us say, John Edwards.
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p>Obama’s goal is to build a coalition that can change our dreadful status quo for the better. That is the only way change has ever happened in U.S. history — by coalition — with one exception that I am aware of: the period during and immediately after the Civil War when a huge chunk of the country was excluded from the Congress. That is not the situation we are in today.
ryepower12 says
But I do know that his language sounds very defeatist to me. It makes it sound like the Democrats are part of the partisan problem, when it’s the Republicans who aren’t willing to compromise or cross the island. The few that do are immediately scape-goated and/or condemned by the party. It ends up being a complete waste of time at best, or results in very, very bad legislation at worst (when Democrats cave).
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p>Have you missed the past 10-15 years? The Republicans have created “change” through the smallest of coalitions possible. Just because that change is change for the bad doesn’t mean it isn’t change.
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p>Now, I’m not suggesting that the Democrats become a small-tent party. What I am saying is that if we demand a partisan strength and unity from Democrats, the populace will respond and we can grow a real, live, unified tent. Universal health care, policies that promote small d democracy or stop lobbyist influence and dozens of better bills for every day Americans is what we need to grow our tent, not defeatist democratic language that may get a President elected, but will do squat to either help our party in the long run or help foster the progressive movement.
jeremybthompson says
If 5-15% of the electorate now supports Edwards, that’s because they legitimately have a half-dozen other choices (toting up Republican and Democratic candidates). Your implication is that, if elected, Edwards will begin his term in office with 85-95% against him. This is preposterous. if you figure half the country would be against him on 20 Jan 2009 just because he’s a Democrat, then you still have to account for the other 35-45%. The majority of these people will probably support whoever is in the White House as long as he/she is a Dem (what’s the alternative? McCain?), and I dare say some Republican moderates who care most about pocket-book issues would also like a President Edwards whose economic policies matched his campaign rhetoric.
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p>Moreover, you and other Edwards-bashers keep talking about how his angry language will make him an effective leader if he’s elected. I have two responses to this:
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p>1. It’s primary season. Everyone’s rhetoric is artificially overdone. For a savvy political observer such as yourself to ignore this truth just for the sake of badmouthing Edwards is disingenuous.
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p>2. But I will grant that President Edwards is likely to be more fiery than President Obama or President Clinton, even adjusting for post-primary moderation. This is bad, it has been argued, because Americans are themselves optimists and will only stand for optimism. I think this argument completely ignores the fact that the president is a leader. I’m not saying the American populace is a tabula rasa on which its political leaders can write their own views and moods. But I do think the presidency is uniquely the sort of position from which somebody could actually change this purported insistence on optimism – specifically by uttering material truths about power and the economic relationships that underpin them, and by encouraging Americans to take stock of and challenge these relationships.
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p>Anyway, building a coalition – which you say Obama wants to do – is a meaningless goal. It’s a non-goal, actually. It’s just one of many possible pathways to making policy. And if it is the pathway that history has tended to favor, I would submit that we are living through a fundamentally different era in politics than any before us – one defined not by an inclination or willingness to coalesce but rather by the entrenchment of political and economic power. This entrenchment is made safe by gerrymandering on the one hand and by the close relationship between money and politics*.
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p>Please. This issue has been reported on plenty – for your review I have helpfully included a link that summarizes the coverage, plus one more from today’s Chicago Sun-Times – and I think it deserves a thoughtful response from a prominent bully pulpit such as the BMG co-editorship.
jeremybthompson says
Should read: “Moreover, you and other Edwards-bashers keep talking about how his angry language will make him an ineffective leader if he’s elected.”
lolorb says
Just a comment on SOX: Although the rationale behind SOX was to prevent Enron style accounting abuses, it really has created enormous problems for corporations and can reach levels of absurdity depending upon how implemented. It should probably be amended. I’m all for accountability, but it’s really pretty bad.
jeremybthompson says
nor am I a corporate accountant, so I’ll defer to you on the content of SOx. My point was that the response to private-sector malfeasance wasn’t to play kissy-face with the malfeasors. It was to put them in their place.
centralmassdad says
so the government can put a malfeasor in his place, well, that’s just the price you pay.
jeremybthompson says
you’re referring to?
centralmassdad says
that has to contend with the endless expense and red tape created by SOX.
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mike-chelmsford says
And we all suffer the needless expense of police, courts, and prisons because some people rob stores. What’s your point? We shouldn’t have laws or we shouldn’t enforce them?
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p>If companies could “opt-out” of SOX, or SEC regulations in general, how much money would you invest in them?
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p>Billions
mike-chelmsford says
Cash would be better. I’ll send you the financials on a powerpoint slide when I get around to it, under our new relaxed reporting guidelines.
gary says
Billions of US cash flows directly to investment in China, and I’m pretty sure Sarbanes-Oxley nor SEC have much authority there.
dca-bos says
the accounting firms profit mightily, even though it was their lax practices and incestuous “consulting” relationships that contributed to the Enron/WorldCom/etc problems in the first place.
lolorb says
is one of the best and most accurate comments I’ve read on BMG ever. SOX did very little to resolve the real problems and issues.
joets says
Were voted into office for that reason. If the people who elected them, the people, wanted progressive legislation, they would have voted for candidates who made that as their platform.
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p>Instead of bitching about the legislators, why don’t you try to present your argument to the people and maybe change their minds? Don’t shoot the messenger. And they are messengers. Remember? THIS IS A MESSAGE TO WASHINGTON BLAH BLAH BLAH nancy pelosi rambling.
joeltpatterson says
not nationwide, and not in Florida in 2000. Conservatives used a dishonest SCOTUS decision and plenty of chicanery to get the legislation they wanted. You’re not convincing me, JoeTS, that there’s any virtue in keeping the basic policies of the Republicans in place.
joets says
Lets keep on pulling it…even after GWB won the popular and electoral vote in 2004. Going to have to try better than that, Joel.
stomv says
and also giving them a 3 rating is low class in my opinion.
joets says
and I amend my rating.
mike-chelmsford says
Whether it’s phone jamming, targeted campaigns to disqualify legitimate voters, scare tactics, or simply discouraging voters by forcing long lines in heavily Democratic neighborhoods, Republicans have systematically worked to keep non-Republicans from voting.
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p>Republicans who didn’t go along were drummed out of the party. How many times have you heard “He’s not a real Republican?” Ask McCain supporters when he opposed torture, or Ron Paul supporters today.
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p>Don’t sit down at the table with Republicans. Intellectually honest people who disagree with the Democratic platform have become independents. Current (remaining) Republicans view negotiation as weakness, and will negotiate dishonestly in order to exploit you.
ryepower12 says
People aren’t elected on the issues anymore. It’s all about message, support, money, IDs, GOTV… issues? No. People consistently want progressive legislation on national polls year in and year out, but unfortunately the average American can be easily swayed by message to vote against their best interests.
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joets says
If people got elected based on issues and policy rather than message and mindless blathering about hope and love, we probably wouldn’t have do-nothing Deval in office right now.
stomv says
he was the first candidate to be unabashedly pro-Cape Wind. That’s clear policy, and our stances were aligned.
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p>Is it built yet? Nope. Is that DP’s fault? Who knows. Did he get elected on just hope and love? Nope. I voted for him based on issues.
ryepower12 says
In part, you’re right. Deval Patrick has clearly shown that he’s not interested in being the governor he campaigned to be. While I never really was bought and sold on Obama (including when he had that ‘amazing’ DNC speach during Kerry’s election), I probably wouldn’t be as set against him if I didn’t feel so betrayed by Deval. Obama’s message is a lot like Deval’s, except not even delivered or sold as well.
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joets says
is amazing. Betrayal is a very powerful word. The next time you come to d-town, send me a shout on facebook, I’ll buy you a drink.
hubspoke says
Wow – great video of Kennedy. The only Dems talking fire (with vim and vigor) like that today are Gravel, Kucinich and the other guy, the one who came in second in Iowa, the one who earnestly gives a sh-t about all this, who is currently behind in the NH polls to Mr. RockStarHopePhenom and Ms. DayOneExperience.
jconway says
Sure JFK opposed bipartisanship for its own sake, so do most people, but when the two choices are between compromising and getting something done or not changing any of your principles but losing I would rather get something accomplished.
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p>So JFK and LBJ played the bipartisan game and reaped great dividends for the nation, so did Truman and FDR. When the other side is unfair and has really god awful ideas definitely fight it and Obama is definitely saying he will fight when he has to in order to ensure what is right gets done. But Edwards would rather fight when he could instead compromise because he is a fighter first and foremost and is there to rally a left wing base to run the country, not unlike Bush and his base running the country, Obama wants to build a real governing coalition and that will in fact produce a sustainable and governing Democratic majority for years to come.
joeltpatterson says
JFK didn’t pass much through Congress. LBJ got a lot through there, partly on the public opinion after JFK’s death, and partly through the popular movements such as the March on Washington.
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p>The only course progressive will have to get the legislation they want is to pressure conservative Democrats to do the right thing. And Obama, according the Illinois equivalent of BMG is historically soft on that.
huh says
Don’t have time for a long post, but Johnson was a protege of Sam Rayburn.
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joeltpatterson says
Do you think Coke Stevenson was not a tool of the oil bidness?
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ryepower12 says
at least anything that’s been remotely good for the American people?
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p>… all of these cases include Democrats crossing the isle to vote with Republicans. All of these cases have hurt average Americans, and in over 3,000 cases downright killing them. Your two choices are false choices because the kind of good bipartisanship that most everyone would want no longer exists. Currently-elected Republicans are completely incapable of such decency. The only ‘bipartisan’ legislation has resulted in is nefarious, crap laws that hurt everyday Americans every day.
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ryepower12 says
The drug coverage plan was a drug company and HMO giveaway that didn’t little to actually help the people who need it most (donut holes a mile wide). SCHIP was defeated because, guess what, Republicans – the same ones who view a willingness to compromise as a sign of weakness.
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jconway says
I think we have to clearly define what bi-partisanship is in order to have a fruitful discussion on the issues.
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ryepower12 says
Look at immigration, then. A few Republicans were willing to come a reasonable solution, with the majority of Democrats. Then, the Republican base goes in an uproar – the few Republicans willing to go along with it are demonized and get scared, run away from it. The Democrats then wasted their time on the hopes that Republicans could be trusted to be reasonable and bipartisan. Like I said, they can’t. Their party will quickly turn on anyone who’s somewhat reasonable, why else would the ‘moderate’ Republicans roll over on any tough vote? They’re kept in line!
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gary says
My agreement wasn’t sarcasm. I was agreeing with you.
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ryepower12 says
Sorry for thinking you were being sarcastic. lol.
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ryepower12 says
My faith could be restored – I can’t fathom a reason why Hillary looks so solid so far tonight other than the fact that all the pundits were wrong and people identified with Hillary’s tears as I did: they were geniune and endearing.
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ryepower12 says
i meant to post this on the open thread. oops.
mr-lynne says
… illustrated part of the problem in the introduction to his earlier book “The Great Unraveling”:
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mr-lynne says
… firefox’s spell checker didn’t kick in there. Oh well. Thats technology for ya.