First off, a disclosure: I’m leaning Obama (I vote in RI now, so I haven’t voted yet), but like both candidates.
My guess is that Clinton closes the fundraising gap somewhat, but that is not crucial to my scenario. What is crucial (and, I think, likely to occur) is that Obama has a very good next couple of weeks, perhaps sweeping everything, right up to the March 4th primaries, when Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, and Vermont all vote. Given the lack of any candidate to build true, sustained momentum to this point, and the fact that the demographics of these states favor Clinton, I think she wins at least a couple states, including either TX and OH. She probably wins both. If that happens, Clinton erases any slight delegate lead Obama might build up in the next couple weeks.
Here’s where it gets really interesting. A point not being stressed enough is that after March 4th, there’s only a couple minor contests (WY and MS) all the way until April 22nd(!) when PA votes. It won’t go that far, and here’s why.
After March 4th, the Clinton camp will reach out to the Obama campaign, and they will agree to talk, without conditions, given the length of time between March 4th and April 22nd. This meeting will consist only of the candidates, perhaps Bill Clinton, and only the highest level staff. The Clinton campaign will acknowledge that they are asking a huge sacrifice from Obama, but they will ask him to drop his campaign and join a Clinton/Obama ticket. He will accept, for these reasons:
(1) He will have the leverage to make heavy demands. First, he will be the VP, of course. But he will also get assurances that he will play a major role in the administration, and that the Clintons will campaign all-out for him after 8 years. He will also demand certain appointments be made and people be hired. There are likely to be other demands, which Clinton will accept.
(2) But why would Obama agree to negotiate this in the first place, especially since they are tied? Here’s why: both campaigns will recognize that the major (perhaps only) way the Democrats don’t win the White House this year is if they go to a brokered convention, or the superdelegates make the decision, or there’s a credentials fight involving FL and MI, all of which will be inevitable without a deal and hugely damaging to both. Given that Clinton is both the “establishment” candidate and (if she wins OH) has shown the most strength in the big Democratic “base” and swing states, she will make the case that if it comes to any of those three things mentioned above, she has the advantage.
(3) Also, Obama is still young, with the clear possibility of running in the future. If he gets to the convention and loses, it’s possible he gets nothing, including the VP, and gets partial blame for the impending Presidency of John McCain. Even if he “wins” at the convention and becomes the nominee, the chances of unifying the party in time for November are severely damaged, and he very well could lose the general. Either way, he will be politically scarred for life. On the other hand, if he accepts he likely becomes VP when the ticket wins in November — unthinkable for him even 8 years ago (when Hillary essentially began running for President). Even in the unlikely situation Clinton/Obama loses, he will not be damaged enough that can’t run in the future (like Edwards did this year). He thus guarantees setting himself up well for the future no matter what happens.
I believe that this scenario will happen — indeed, it is nearly inevitable at this point — and that it will be the only way that the party does not slowly get destroyed over the course of the summer. This will be the only way to unify the party in time for November, and (assuming Obama extracts enough benefit in the negotiations) is in the ultimate interest of both candidates.
I do not claim that this scenario hasn’t been thought about by anyone else (though I haven’t seen anyone spell it out in detail yet). However, I don’t think it’s being talked about enough given the likelihood of it occuring.
I’d be interested in your thoughts, or what realistic alternatives you think are out there that I’m missing.
Update: I didn’t see sabutai’s excellent post before I posted, which discusses the delegate math going forward. Highly recommended, and I think his analysis helps show why the above scenario is inevitable.
sabutai says
Last I heard, the regulations to get on the Rhode Island ballot were so restrictive that it wasn’t clear all the candidates would be listed.
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hoyapaul says
RI has a weird system for getting on the ballot, but he’s on it (along with Edwards, still). I know there were some issues about a month ago on that score, but they just determined the ballot order by lottery (“Uncommitted” won the top spot on the ballot!).
leonidas says
the possibility that in the event of post-March 4 victories for Clinton (OH & TX), Howard Dean and others will reach out to Obama and convince him to give it up.
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p>Maybe the comprimise will be Obama as VP, but I have a feeling the Clintons will resist this.
hoyapaul says
but the main reason I think the above scenario will occur, as opposed to the Dean pressure scenario you mention, is because Dean and “the party” (whatever that means) don’t really have any power over Clinton, Obama, or individual superdelegates. I don’t know what Dean can offer that will convince one of the two candidates, both in a virtual tie, to budge.
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laurel says
edwards could hardly eek a vote from anyone when up against them. together they would bring out a huge swath of voters. i can;t imagine any other vp candidate that could motivate the votes either clinton or obama can.
lolorb says
by a day with the concept, but I did not expound on the idea to the depth that you have. It’s about time that Dems do what will win. I’m there with you.
hoyapaul says
I hadn’t seen sabutai’s post and yours before I posted. I suspect that quite a few people must be thinking the same thing, though I admit it is a bit early to discuss negotiation (it is possible that if Obama sweeps before March 4th and than goes ahead and wins everything on that day, the superdelegates will go his way, but I just don’t see it happening).
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ryepower12 says
I don’t think most politicians, after fighting this long and this hard, with a dead heat at this point in a primary, will concede to become VP. Obama’s camp may give the same offer to Hillary as Hillary would to Obama. Why would either one choose the other’s offer?
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hoyapaul says
But the reason I think it’s far more likely that Clinton’s offer to Obama makes more sense is because of one overriding factor — she has more to lose not being the nominee. This is because of two reasons:
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ryepower12 says
In fact, it makes a ton of sense for Obama to be the VP.
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christopher says
Pundits are always coming up with reasons two rivals cannot form a ticket, usually on the theme that there is too much bad blood or a running mate’s primary cycle critiques of the nominee can be used against the ticket. We have seen it done before however, as recently as last cycle with Kerry-Edwards and they came close. Successful examples of this kind of pairing include Reagan-Bush in 1980 and Kennedy-Johnson in 1960.
ryepower12 says
I’m trying to say it’s not going to happen soon, not as long as one side has a reasonable shot of winning.
lolorb says
is the one thing that may get in the way of us winning the election. That’s what the DNC is going to be arguing. I agree with Hoyapaul that Clinton has already proven this will be a draw (and please I do not want to be told that 10 delegates is a big difference, etc., that just isn’t gonna cut it). The supers are going to lean more towards Clinton based upon all indicators, but they don’t want to be the decision makers. Enough already. It’s obvious this could get in the way of Dem unity and a WIN. Every time a poll comes out that shows Barack beating McCain and Clinton losing or vice versa, I want to slap people silly. That only happens if there isn’t unity and said egos can’t do what’s right for the country. Polls should not be the basis for making a decision that will benefit the entire population (and for that matter, the world). There is just too much at stake right now for egos. Barack has a long future in politics. He should think about it and his supporters right now. Do the smart thing and put the ego aside. The Kerry ego bought us four additional years of Bush. His pres ambitions are now toast. Barack needs to think about that.
bluetoo says
…this made fascinating reading, and I can see it possibly happening. I think it would be the best of all possible worlds if it did…I think Clinton/Obama would be a dream ticket, and I think they would win in November.
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hellofitchburg says
Dean is fundamentally concerned with what’s best for the party. At this stage (and this may change), the polling shows Clinton and McCain essentially tied in a general election matchup, while Obama wins handily. Red state democrats know that having Clinton on the ballot will mobilize the republican base. I’m not suggesting they’ll lie down for Obama, just that the Clinton name has substantially more baggage than cachet in certain parts of the country. Then there are the new voters (and donors) Obama has brought to the table. Will they rally behind a Clinton/Obama ticket? Maybe, maybe not. All of these things have to be swirling around in Dean’s head.
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p>I can’t see Dean pressing for this, and I can’t see Obama accepting it. I don’t know what the resolution will be.
ryepower12 says
Clinton’s success in Florida, to me, outweighs any parts of the country where she has more baggage than Obama. First, Obama’s going to get his name drenched in yellow water by the msm and partisan operatives by the time all is said and done… so either candidate is going to have baggage. Second, these states where Clinton’s baggage may matter are states we aren’t likely to win this election cycle regardless. So I think it’s good to consider the candidate who has the best shot at winning some of the extra, big prizes and has cemented popularity in the bread-and-butter, Democratic organizing and fundraising states of NY, California, Massachusetts, etc.
jconway says
Nobody has a bigger ego than a presidential candidate and at this point both camps openly despise the other. Clinton sees the audacity (no pun intended) of Obama’s insurgency as an affront against her birthright. Obama sees Clinton’s campaign as unbecoming of the DEMOCRATIC party when nepotism trumps everything else in giving her the advantages. So I do not see this ticket occurring sorry folks.
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p>No doubt about it Hillary on the ticket unites the Republican base behind McCain like lightning and the evangelicals and everyone else will come out due to their irrational hatred and fear of the former first lady. This WILL happen.
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p>If Obama leads in delegates slightly refuses VP, ugly floor fight ensues, he gets blamed for the defeat by keeping the party united
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p>If Obama is behind, agrees to the VP, he will still get blamed like Edwards did for overshadowing the nominee and running his next campaign for president while running for VP. Either way he will get blamed even though point 1 shows its not his fault
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p>Getting blamed, and the Clintons would get the MSM to blame him, would kill any chances he has of running in the future. Also even if she loses and he doesn’t get blamed he will come in the frontrunner in 2008 and early frontrunner almost always never win the nomination. Much like McCain in 2000 he is running as an outsider insurgent candidate running against a nepotist candidate who considers the nomination his/her birthright. And like McCain showed in 2006-2007 he could not run as a frontrunner and succeed. McCain was tremendously lucky by becoming an insurgent candidate again but Obama might not be so lucky.
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p>He ran knowing 2008 would be his last best shot for the White House and he is in it to win.
lolorb says
and tired of the “baggage” argument. Anyone who believes that the Republicans (and especially the “base”) aren’t going to be equal opportunity bashers, whether it’s Clinton or Barack, needs to have their head examined. Since the polls were so accurate last time around, why again is it that Kerry lost (remember his resounding leads)? Can you tell me again with certainty who wins and who loses based on the polls? You sure about that? At least on the Clinton side, there is very little naivety left.
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amberpaw says
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p>5. Hope that that the continuation of a primary battle all the way to the Convention, and a “brokered” convention does not cause the “Democratic base”, the rank and file Democrats that is, to tune out.
jconway says
I am not saying Obama will not be swift-boated, any of the Dem nominees will, and arguably Hillary has been tested before so maybe she is the better mudslinger and mudtaker of the two.
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p>But what I did mean was that Clinton will make the Sean Hannitys, Rush Limbaughs of the world, and the idiots that listen to them, vote for McCain because they despise her so much. The GOP base is dispirited, divided, and disillusioned and that will all end the second they have a target painted on Clinton that they can all aim at. That kind of unity is something we do not want to encourage.
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sabutai says
Nominate Obama because the Republicans did such a great smear job on Hillary Clinton, and he’s the other choice? Talk about surrender….
lolorb says
know that Limberger and Coulter are going to vote for Clinton over McCain. Can’t wait for that love fest.
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yellow-dog says
I may be wrong, but I predict a turn of narrative events where Hillary overcomes the media. It’s already happening due to Chris Matthews and David Shuster. Bill Clinton is speaking on it now.
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stomv says
Which are more important? Neither.
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jasiu says
Who executes the ground game for McCain if the base that worked so hard for W doesn’t?
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p>A vote is a vote, but a vote that is also a volunteer is… priceless.
hellofitchburg says
Unless you lived in a red state during the Clinton administration, I don’t think you have any idea at all of the palpable distaste that exists for the Clintons, particularly Hillary. I’m not talking about equal-opportunity “let’s hate the democratic candidate, whoever that may be” stuff here. It’s an irrational hatred that will bring out the republican base in droves. The republicans I know in the deep south are either positive or ambivalent about Obama. They still, however, loathe Hillary, and will vote for McCain or Huckabee to keep her out of office.
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sabutai says
Catering to irrational hatred may be a sound electoral strategy, but its morally nauseous.
jconway says
And Hillary just can’t and besides she would make only a mediocre President while Obama shows he can actually bring the country together and get things done.
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p>First of all check their voting records, Obama is far mroe liberal and progressive down the line than Clinton, he has shown a willingness to compromise but never on his principles. The Clintons threw poor people under the rail with Welfare, civilians under the rail with poll driven wars against Kosovo and Iraq, and gays under the rail with DOMA and DADT and honestly they will throw the country under the rail to win elections.
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p>Those are the most powerful reasons to vote for Obama and honestly anyone supporting the Clinton smear machine just cause Republicans hate them is acting pretty irrational and is forgetting history. The reason so much mud stuck is cause half of it was true.
lolorb says
been there done that. Some of those “rubes” ain’t gonna buy the Clinton crap anymore (and I know quite a few who now question the spin having lived a bit of my life in the south). The rest will believe that Jesus has been having personal conversations with Huck on a daily basis, in which case, they ain’t gonna be real open to anything but Jesus, so your point is?
hoyapaul says
I’ve heard a few people suggest that the only way that this ends is if Dean or “the party” forces one candidate to do this or the other thing.
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trickle-up says
Party leaders could organize a move to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations, to give Clinton a first-ballot victory. Or threaten to do that, or to refrain from it, as a carrot and stick for the two candidates to come to terms.
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p>I think that’s unlikely, and I’m sure the leadership would prefer not to. But that’s how this scenario would play out were it going to.
lolorb says
a redo of both Florida and Michigan. Why? Because the situation is reaching levels of absurdity.
lasthorseman says
Far more interested in establishing the start date of post-industrial feudalism and it’s associated survivalist possibilities.
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p>Is a remote off the grid Amish style farm/homestead in the near future or have the Brownshirts already pre-empted that remote possibility.
lolorb says
bunker would be best. Make sure you stock up on beer and chips beforehand.
amberpaw says
After all, there is truly “nothing new under the sun.”
25-cats says
Unless Obama is definitively losing, if he takes a dive and snuggles up to Clinton as her #2 it’ll be a thumb in the eye of most people who voted for him.
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p>Obama, recognizing this, won’t do it.
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p>And speaking as one who knows people in Pennsylvania, the last time I checked they’re Americans too. What the hell is wrong with letting them vote?
sabutai says
Unless things radically change in the next month, Obama will beat Hillary on the votes of officials and functionaries. Or, Hillary will beat Obama on the votes of officials and functionaries. Is that fair?
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lolorb says
I rest my case. If your candidate can’t persuade you that a Dem victory is more critical this year than his or her ego, we might as well give it all up. This primary season needs to end now for the obvious reasons displayed above. Since when did Pennsylvania ever have a say? For that matter, when has MA ever had a say? All of a sudden, the system as it has worked for how many years I don’t know is disenfranchising people? Were you screaming about that in the last twenty or so election cycles? If so, I don’t remember hearing you.
since1792 says
You’re saying if it appears Obama takes a dive and snuggles up you’ll stay home in November and not vote OR you’ll vote for the Republican?
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since1792 says
End the primary season now?
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historian says
The theory is intersting.
The situation is extremely volatile because of the obvious passion of the supporters of the two candidates. There is real danger for severe lasting damage if either side feels itself to have been “cheated” or treated unfairly.
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Would HRC ever agree to run as Vice President?
Would BHO ever agree to run as Vice President?
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sabutai says
Bill Clinton presided over historical peace and prosperity.
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sabutai says
CNN was periodically drowning out Hillary’s speech with split coverage with some remarks Bill Clinton was making somewhere.
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papicek says
but my nightmare is Obama is beaten or takes this deal, and angry, frustrated blacks stay home election day. I hear the Clintons are popular in the black community, so I could be way off base here. I just don’t have a feel for the Clintons. Republicans are then united and energized in their hatred of Hillary and come out in droves, and McCain wins. (Let’s face it, it took a Bush-Cheney team to unite the Democrats.) Or maybe the 527’s go so over the top a huge sympathy vote turns out for her. Or something else.
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laurel says
do you think they’re that stupid? yes, i think you are way off base there, verging on something bias-like.
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papicek says
I’ve absolutely nothing to base that on. Just a gut feeling.
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marc-davidson says
The only real reason for for Obama to accept this arrangement is because he is younger and will have a chance at the nomination in 2012 or 2016. Hillary can’t take the fall because this might be her last chance.
There are two significant problems with this thinking:
1. This would radically change Obamas image from agent of change to water carrier for the establishment candidate.
2. This perpetuates the anti-democratic sense of entitlement that pervades the entrenched political class – “after you, it’s my turn”. So far Obama has rejected that mentality. Good for him. I, for one, hope he doesn’t sell out.
hoyapaul says
if the arrangement does happen, it could be explained as Obama realizing that both candidates bringing it all the way to the convention would result in no change — a Republican will remain in the White House. And their demographic arguments would still have plenty of vitality — after all, the first woman/African-American ticket would be huge change in itself. I think both candidates are talented enough to make the case that the “agent of change” argument will not disappear because they are both on the same ticket.
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sabutai says
I love how easily the left adopts Republican code words. This “sense of entitlement” is more accurately the idea that somebody has learned enough and has become familiar enough with government to be ready to take on a tough job.
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marc-davidson says
and one that resonates well with voters on both sides, particularly when it comes to politicians embracing the agendas of the powerful and monied interests that support them to the detriment of their constituents.
If your history is correct, maybe it’s time the left reclaimed the word.