Another reason to support Hillary Clinton. If you missed it, Tina Fey’s news segment last night on SNL was right on the mark. You can watch it or read about it from a Huffington post about the whole SNL show.
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joets says
joeltpatterson says
White boy references hip-hop misogyny.
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p>Much hilarity ensues.
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p>White boy surfs Internet all night alone. Again.
joets says
Pervert.
hlpeary says
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lanugo says
At the debate she’s all conciliatory and honored to share the stage with Barack. Then the next day its shame on you Barack and hard ass Hillary. That is her problem – she keeps changing her mind about how she wants to come off.
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p>I love Tina Fey and that was a good skit but it was wrong in its analysis. Hillary ain’t losing because people think she’s a bitch. She’s losing because people don’t know who the heck she is (pardon my french) and frankly after all her years in politics, I’m not sure she knows either. That was Al Gore’s problem too. Its not bitchiness people see, its calculation and fakery and changeability, when they want to know you and feel your authentic. Margaret Thatcher was a tough nut. She was not beloved by the British public, in fact many despised her, but they knew she’d kick some ass and they knew what they were getting with her. Hillary has failed to give them anything more than “experienced” but that has proven a weak appeal. A little more bitch and she would have got somewhere if you ask me.
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p>I like tough, hard and strong women – I liked 1992 Hillary, not baking cookies and running some shit. But she wears the scars of the White House years and has tried to run away from them ever since.
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p>I’m married to a hard ass woman and hopefully I’m raising one. But Hillary didn’t run like that – she ran arrogant, she ran as the inevitable heir to the throne. She ran on her resume and not her persona, which she didn’t know how to define and still doesn’t.
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p>IfI still have no clue who the real Hillary is and that is her biggest problem. I’d have voted for a bitch but not for someone wh she’s a bitch she gotta let it out there. Show some fire about what she will do and not just moans about her competitors. o doesn’t know who they are.
lanugo says
theopensociety says
If you are saying that Al Gore lost because he did not have a “persona” people could relate to, but George Bush did, what does that tell you about selecting a president solely on a perceived persona? Do you really think people know who Barack Obama is? Why, because they have read his book and heard him speak? Give me a break.
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p>People do know who Hillary Clinton “is.” She is someone who has actually brought about change, not just talked about it. It would be hard not to know who she is given how many baseless investigations of her the Republicans conducted when she was first lady and how many books people have written about her. What is there that anyone does not know about her? And she has not tried to “run away” from her “scars of the White House” or whatever you meant. She has worn them proudly as someone who knows how to fight back against the dirty politics of the Republicans. BTW, I think you totally missed the point of Tina Fey’s piece.
lanugo says
During the campaign Gore never settled on a message consistently – one minute he was a centrist the next a populist – and he never seemed totally comfortable in his own skin and this became the press running story. It was not that people couldn’t relate to Gore, it was just that they didn’t trust that the person they were seeing was actually the person behind the camera. They thought, and the media fed this perception, that Gore was not who he was saying he was.
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p>AUTHENTICITY – or perceived authenticity is like gold dust in politics. That requires a level of consistency of message and manner so people feel like they know who you are and think they can trust you. Obama has that and Clinton does not.
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p>Look at the polls – Clinton scores very low on trust and honesty. Why? Because many people think she (or they, given that her husband shapes perceptions about her) is calculating and will say anything or do anything to win. I am not making this up and I know many of her supporters don’t get this about her, but it is a problem for her. She has never answered that charge effectively. And in this campaign, running as the inevitable heir to the throne and then claiming the mantle of experience, when there were many candidates in the race with far more experience than she, and experience was not what folks were looking for in any event, hurt her candidacy.
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p>I know Clinton folks would like to believe that it is sexism or irrational bias that is the problem when its not. Tina Fey basically argued that all the criticism of the Clinton’s was stupid – why not elect a bitch or get two smart people in the White House. But she does not get that its not that people think Hillary is a bitch, they just don’t think Clinton is trustworthy. Its not that people don’t think she and her hubby are smart, its just that they think the Clintons are dirty and bring politics down and will do anything to help their own cause. I understand what Tina Fey was saying – but her simplistic critique of the anti-Hillary movement misdescribes what it is people don’t like about her. Its the Clinton campaign that has been behind the curve in this race, and now Tina Fey is as well.
theopensociety says
You just repeated the Republican attack machine’s comments about Hillary Clinton. And I guess those of us who support Hillary Clinton are just soooo stupid. Or maybe we don’t listen to the garbage the media and the Republicans have dished out for year about the Clintons. Maybe we base our opinions on facts. What a concept.
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p>BTW, sexism has been a really big problem in this campaign, especially with how the media has treated Hillary Clinton. Funny, I haven’t hear Obama say anything about that. Hmmmm, guess it doesn’t fit with the game plan. Come to think of it, has Obama ever even come close to saying what Hillary Clinton has said about this being an historic election with an African American and a woman running for president? Has he ever acknowledged that it is an honor to be on the same stage with Hillary Clinton as she said she was honored to be on the same stage with him during the last debate?