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Barack Obama refusing to release birth certificate

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The latest running through the internet is that BHO will not allow his birth certificate to released.

Speculation raises the aura of several probabilities:

1. Barack Obama was not born on US soil.

2. Barack Hussein Obama is in reality not his legal or actual name.

3. Obama’s actual father is unknown or in fact another male than is currently recognized.

The first instance would render BHO unable to continue in this electoral process and if elected, it would likely result in removal from office.

The other two scenarios are of no consequence.

All in all—a very interesting development. Ones birth certificate is probably the most innocuous document one may possess. I guess unless you are Barack Obama.

Is this what Hillary has been sitting on?

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  1. Just type “Obama eats kittens” into a google search and you’ll get 459,000 results! What else can we make of this? It’s clear that Obama is an unapologetic kitten-eater!

    I’ve also heard rumors he can unhinge his jaw and open his mouth in order to fit a live human infant-but that’s just a rumor.

    – Posted by Raycat

    My guess is that he’s waiting until the gop crap pile of slanders gets to a tipping point, then he’ll release the very normal certificate, which will make the piled on goopers look like the paranoid, xenophobic bigots they are.  But that’s just my guess.  I hope he does it right before mccrackity’s next green speech.

    • One should be able to go to the town hall where Obama was born and get all the information one needs.  Has anyone done this?

      • how can we make all these baseless insinuations if we have the real doc in front of us?

        • There are PLENTY of reasons to disagree with Barack Obama – we don’t NEED spurious ones, as they merely destroy the credibility of other criticisms!

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          p>THIS is the kind of rumor I absolutely want to drive a stake through the heart!

          • obama knows good and well how a-skeered many repubs are of foreigners.  he also knows he was born on US soil, while mccrackity was born in more tenuous digs.  so, brilliant tactician that he is, he puts out false rumors via operatives like MCRD.  he knows that the question of his citizenship forces the xenophobes to take another look at the foreign origins of his opponent.  then at an opportune time, he releases his birth certificate proving his true blue Hawaiian birth.  By gummy that lad’s Amuricun through and through!  City Hall says so and so does his gammy!  The only aftertaste of the whole episode is the lingering reminder that mccranky was born “down there”, where those filthy brown wetbacks come from.  the base won’t like it.  makes them want to stay home on cold nevember days.

      • In Hawaii, birth certs aren’t public documents.  This rumor has been out there for many months.

    • My guess is that he’s waiting until the gop crap pile of slanders gets to a tipping point, then he’ll release the very normal certificate, which will make the piled on goopers look like the paranoid, xenophobic bigots they are.

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      p>Yeah, everyone knows the Democrats wouldn’t similarly question the bona fides of a Republican, questionably not born on US soil. because that would be xenophobic and bigoted.

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      p>Oh wait.

      all joking aside (for a brief moment) (0.00 / 0)
      sure, i can see your point.  however, just like embassies are considered US soil, so too perhaps are military installations.  but the “perhaps” i use is what you’re getting at i guess – the term remains to be well defined, so mccain may or may not be eligible to be president.

      Luctor et Emergo

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      by: Laurel

      • goin for the gotcha so he can divert eyes and attention.

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        p>but if you’re going to quote me, quote me thoroughly

        Oh, but seriously,  (6.00 / 1)
        Ryan, if I recall correctly, George Romney was born in Mexico.  Yet, he was allowed to run for president.  Now, maybe someone would have challenged his natural bornedness had he made the nomination, but I’ve never heard that that was a concern during his time.  

        Luctor et Emergo
        by: Laurel @ Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 20:26:20 PM CST

        Yes that’s right, I was giving reasons NOT to make a big deal about mccranky being “natural born”.  oops gary, GOTCHA!

      • The McCain issue (he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, for those unaware of it) is interesting and complicated, as I’ve explained before.

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        p>Obama, on the other hand, was born in Hawaii at a time when Hawaii was a state.  No issue there.  Speculation indeed abounds among wingnuts as to the birth certificate, but mostly because they think it might be embarrassing (e.g., Dad possibly not legally married to Mom).

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        p>Not really the same thing.

        • The birth certificate will show that he WAS legally married, and his birth wasn’t of a virgin and the Dem myth that he’s the messiah will be quashed.

  3. Well, like it or not, it surely would be a problem of constitutional proportions for Obama if it turned out he was born in Kenya. And it would be a more serious problem than John McCain’s problematic birth in the Canal Zone, since the Canal Zone was an American enclave at the time.

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    p>But how could this be? Surely the DNC must have vetted this issue, particularly after all the attention paid to Governor Schwarzenegger, Governor Granholm, and Senator McCain.

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    p>So the Obama campaign should simply release the birth certificate.

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    p>TedF

    • “Surely”?  I think not.  A child born of American parents who happened to be abroad at the time the mother gave birth almost certainly (I say “almost” because none of this has ever reached the Supreme Court) would qualify as a “natural born” citizen eligible to be president.

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      p>The Congress certainly thought so in 1790:

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      And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens ….

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      p>Lowell Weicker, who was born in Paris to American citizens, sought and received a legal analysis saying that he was eligible for the presidency.  George Romney, born in Mexico to American citizens, also faced the issue.  But in none of these cases was the issue resolved.

      • It surely would be a problem–which is not the same as saying that it surely would come out one way or the other if litigated to its conclusion. Perhaps I should have written that it surely would be an issue. It’s true that the First Congress passed the statute to which you refer, but: (1) the statute has fallen by the wayside and does not appear in the Immigration and Nationality Act (has it been expressly repealed, I wonder?) and (2) in any case, while evidence of what folks thought the Constitution meant in 1790 is probative of what the Constitution means, it’s not definitive.

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        p>Back to document review!

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        p>TedF

        • but given that (1) it is, as you say, pretty good evidence of what folks in 1790 thought the language meant; and (2) the constitutional provision that anyone born on US soil is automatically a citizen didn’t exist before the 14th amendment, it’s hard to read “natural born” as other than “born of American parents” (as opposed to “naturalized after birth”).  So sure, if Obama was born in Kenya, it would be front-page news for a few days.  But he still would (almost) certainly be qualified to be president.  Furthermore, as I’ve noted before, it’s far from clear that anyone has standing to challenge his eligibility.

  6. Yes.  Barack Obama decided to run for President, knowing that he contravened one of the only two requirements to be president, and expecting that he’d get away with it.  Even I don’t think he has that much hubris.

  7. If you can’t provide any evidence for your supposedly “factual” claims, you might as well confine your blog posts to rumors and fiction.

  8. The real problem: failure to support endless tax cuts that will be paid for down the road by someone else (kids) and failure to support endless war.

  9. This is the dumbest diary I’ve seen yet on this site.  People are willing to actually pay money to see if they could be the first person to break the story that Obama might not be a U.S. citizen.  Apparently the absurdity of the quest and query is lost on them.  Although it’s early in the race, I might have to proclaim now, today, that I’ve seen everything.  

    • This seems right up MCRD’s alley, although maybe a little subtle.  Maybe if there were a dark parking garage…

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