More from the most stupidly entertaining Presidential campaign in modern history:
link from Political Insider:
A Wikipedia editor emailed Political Wire to point out some similarities between Sen. John McCain’s speech today on the crisis in Georgia and the Wikipedia article on the country Georgia. Most people would consider parts of McCain’s speech to be derived directly from Wikipedia.
First instance:
one of the first countries in the world to adopt Christianity as an official religion (Wikipedia)
vs.
one of the world’s first nations to adopt Christianity as an official religion (McCain)
Second instance:
After the Russian Revolution of 1917, Georgia had a brief period of independence as a Democratic Republic (1918-1921), which was terminated by the Red Army invasion of Georgia. Georgia became part of the Soviet Union in 1922 and regained its independence in 1991. Early post-Soviet years was marked by a civil unrest and economic crisis. (Wikipedia)
vs.
After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922. As the Soviet Union crumbled at the end of the Cold War, Georgia regained its independence in 1991, but its early years were marked by instability, corruption, and economic crises. (McCain)
Third instance:
In 2003, Shevardnadze (who won reelection in 2000) was deposed by the Rose Revolution, after Georgian opposition and international monitors asserted that the 2 November parliamentary elections were marred by fraud. The revolution was led by Mikheil Saakashvili, Zurab Zhvania and Nino Burjanadze, former members and leaders of Shavarnadze’s ruling party. Mikheil Saakashvili was elected as President of Georgia in 2004. Following the Rose Revolution, a series of reforms was launched to strengthen the country’s military and economic capabilities. (Wikipedia)
vs.
Following fraudulent parliamentary elections in 2003, a peaceful, democratic revolution took place, led by the U.S.-educated lawyer Mikheil Saakashvili. The Rose Revolution changed things dramatically and, following his election, President Saakashvili embarked on a series of wide-ranging and successful reforms. (McCain)
p.s. McCain’s top foreign policy advisor, Randy Scheunemann had been a paid lobbyist for the government of Georgia. Why didn’t he just write the speech?
candidates like students, with all press materials passing through Turnitin first.
History and Wikipedia talks about Georgian history. Is the history wrong in either instance. perhaps it seems similar because they were both talking about the same history. Just a thought.
of course, I don’t spend my time reading papers/speeches referring to historical events, so maybe I’m just naive or obtuse — but is the speech really that close?
does look pretty close to verbatim. that said, there are only so many ways to restate concise historical facts. i’ve run up against this problem myself while writing science papers.
that a wikipedia editor chose to call it to Political Wire’s attention. Seems reasonable to assume that the researcher who drafted the speech used wikipedia as a major (only?) source, and perhaps was pressed for time.
The little changes are interesting. Taking out the unnecessary “in the world” is simply good editing, but adding “crumbled at the end of the Cold War” adds some interest and stirs memories of Reagan, and adding “corruption” to its early independence ills might show McCain’s view, as opposed to the neutral wiki viewpoint of “civil unrest”. That happens again when McCain switches from “monitors asserted” to the non-neutral fact of fraud in 2003, and clarifies what side we were on in the Rose Revolution, which McCain must have known was “peaceful and democratic”, because that’s not in the wiki.
From the original post:
Who said Randy Scheunemann didn’t write both the speech and the wiki entry?
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p>Meanwhile, MSNBC First Read came up with an interesting thought.
Just asking.
I expect a speech writer to have written the speech-not McCain nor Sheunemann.
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p>Whether Sheunemann is a wiki-contributor is speculative…
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p>Still, this is something that would be a big no-no for an undergrad.
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p>For a Presidential candidate running on his foreign policy experience? Unreal. Imagine if Obama did this!
that’s what is most amazing. McCain is touting his foreign policy experience as a reason to vote for him. Now it’s found that he’s cribbing from Wikipedia? Truly amazing!
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p>Debate all you want about who did what, the words came from McCain’s mouth, he ultimately responsible for what he says. If he’s not, should be even be a candidate to be president?
Every entry has a history. It’s possible that Scheunemann somehow contributed to the original material, but he’s a lobbyist, not a historian, so I doubt it.
This is better than the speech at Monroe, Michigan. Now that was embarrassing…
has everything: corporate welfare, widespread public endangerment, and a stunning lack of cognition in the person of John McCain.
Scary to think that this nut could be president.
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