To my mind, that's the real legacy of Reaganism: The idea that if you just believed something hard enough — be it Laffer curves, trickle-down economics or that trees cause pollution — and well, that's good enough. Sprinkle in some cultural animus, and ignorance becomes practically an elevated spiritual state.
So naturally, this leads to “policy” positions untethered from reality, but against which it becomes difficult to argue. When McCain says he's going to balance the budget by the end of his first term, everyone knows it doesn't really make any sense. But saying that's impossible sounds somehow negative; obviously it's better to promise more than less.
And so it goes with energy: McCain's drilling plan won't actually do anything, but damn it's some hard-core sounding stuff. McCain's health care plan will hardly help any of the uninsured — or insured, for that matter — but it hits all the talking points, so therefore it's good enough.
Interestingly, Obama's diagnosis also shows the way out for the GOP: Start suggesting policy prescriptions for problems as they actually exist, that actually have a chance of working. If there's a conservative-branded health care plan that genuinely will help people have health care, let's see it. If there's a conservative plan to genuinely deal with global warming and high gas prices, let's see it. On some level or other, Arnold Schwarzenegger seems to understand that. Bruce Tarr seems to understand that. David Brooks seems to understand that.
The Era of Big Ignorance is over. It has had consequences in reality, and voters are rejecting it. You can't fool people forever.
joets says
If we all have our tire pressure at the right level, we’ll save more oil than we’d get from drilling? We’d save over a trillion barrels of oil?!
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gary says
Two prong: Inflate the tires with CO2 and we’ll whip global warming by saving gas plus sequestering Carbon dioxide.
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johnk says
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gary says
I thought he was to defend and protect the Constitution. Who knew the power of the president was to be used to tell me how to maintain my car or lawnmower. “Not your ordinary Magtag repairman”.
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johnk says
he should protect the Constitution, I like it!
johnk says
about protecting the Constitution (maybe you should cc Bush on that one too). But I also wanted to ask if you voted for Herbert Walker?
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gary says
Recall that each and every President since Nixon has promised ‘energy independence’. It’s a soundbite. It’s impossible, IMHO. And, even if not impossible, it’s not even desireable. But, it’s impossible for a politician, NOT to call for energy independence.
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johnk says
that inflating tires is not his energy plan, but at this point we know McCain’s pride in being ignorant.
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centralmassdad says
Energy, at big scales, is dangerous and has downsides.
stomv says
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centralmassdad says
to be converted to wind farms.
stomv says
but have you been to western Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming? There’s an awful lot of real estate there, and not much else. Same goes for quite a bit of tUSA between the Rockies and the mighty Mississippi.
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centralmassdad says
My only point is: let us not pretend that wind energy is completely without negative trade offs.
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gary says
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stomv says
1: So point to it. Give me a quote, a line, a something.
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gary says
1: You seek a link, “mandate all new vehicles are flexible fuel vehicles”. Seriously, couldn’t you simply google search ‘flexible fuel mandate obama’ if you were truly interested.
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Now frankly, the difference to me is irrelevant. The point is, wind generation is extremely small. But, if you feel 1.3 v. .667 is important, this should correct your errant information. Read closely. The dead giveaway on your link: Electric Power MONTHLY.
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Please note, there are 12 months in a year, not just one.
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centralmassdad says
which it is, the candidate lecturing people about car maintenance looks small and “unpresidential.”
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shawnh says
as making a point that something simple such as proper tire pressure can make a bigger difference than the drilling McCain is proposing.
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centralmassdad says
It damaged Carter in 1980, and plagues Democratic candidates still.
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stomv says
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centralmassdad says
It would be beneficial for American health policy if all Americans exercise more and ate less bacon. But we don’t expect the President to spend time on this. If he did, well, we would think, aren’t there more important things for you to be doing with your time? In the same way, aren’t there more important things for a candidate to be discussing for the last three days than tire pressure?
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centralmassdad says
There’s a counter punch.
mr-lynne says
… our government already contribute to the facts that we don’t exercise enough and eat too much bacon. We’ve subsidized the automotive lifestyle with our willingness to spend tax money on highway products. Our food system is all out of what partly because we subsidize it that way.
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lodger says
Really. Do I need a politician to tell me to wear a sweater when I’m cold, or to tell me to maintain my automobile? If Dems would stop assuming I’m such a simpleton, and can’t get along without their help in every little detail of my life, it might be easier to hear the messages about what they’re selling.
mr-lynne says
… for crying out loud, it was a question from audience: “What can I do to deal with gas prices?” He answered it with something he could do.
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lodger says
But please, “the guy” asks a presidential candidate “what can I do to deal with gas prices”. It’s the nature of so many to first look to the government for answers for every little problem. I’m not saying don’t ask the question, it is whom you ask, that I am commenting upon. Better to ask your mechanic, or your accountant, perhaps your neighbor.
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mr-lynne says
… and it was asked and answered. Everyone is spinning this like it’s a nannystate policy proposal. It isn’t and it never was. That means that spin is a lie and complaints about the nannystate policy proposal are misapplied here since it doesn’t exist.
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syphax says
Republicans have made a cult out of mocking energy conservation for years (see: Cheney, personal virtue). It’s very strange, Republicans laud the efficiency of the free market, but are derisive toward energy efficiency. I thought that the free market was good because it achieves (at least on paper) efficient allocations with little waste. And yet you guys are just in love with wasting energy.
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tblade says
That’s 4.2 – 5.6 billion gallons of gas per year, or about 280,000,000 barrels of oil. Looking at it another way, it’s $16-$20 billion that stay in American consumers pockets per year.
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joets says
and over 1 trillion is a huge difference. it looks like this.
1,000,000,000,000.
280,000,000.
tblade says
Huh?
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joets says
that the tire pressure thing would save more oil than we’d get from drilling.
tblade says
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/3…
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tblade says
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yearday.”joets says
is like saying people shouldn’t go to college because they won’t get a degree for 4 years.
tblade says
I’m arguing against you insinuating that it is ignorant to think proper tire inflation will have a greater and more immediate impact on US gasoline consumption than new drilling legislation. I’m not arguing for or against drilling here. You said that
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gary says
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tblade says
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dcsohl says
I’ve apparently been driving around with over-inflated tires for years. It came up in a conversation the other week, and a friend pointed that out. See, I’d always seen the label on the tires saying “do not inflate over 44 lbs/in^2” and assumed that — because I’ve always heard of the dangers of underinflation but never overinflation — 44 was the optimum number.
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tblade says
..is McCain’s plan do achieve oil independence from the Mid East: turn out the lights 5 minutes earlier!
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alexwill says
The McCain campaign has done a great job raising the profile of tire pressure issues. I saw on Colbert last night one of those “Obama’s Energy Plan” tire gauges, and my wife and I totally want one.
eaboclipper says
You can get yer tire guage here. I’m sure the Senator will be grateful.
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p>Funny how the text is perfectly white and doesn’t blur nor shrink as it gets farther from the lens.
tblade says
…spend $0.99 and buy the same gauge at the local hardware store and put the other $24 bucks into your tank.
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p>That’s fiscal responsibility I can believe in.
alexwill says
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/us…
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