Above is a clip I first posted a couple of weeks ago of Senator Kerry answering a question about heating oil at an event in Leominster on August 18. The next clip has not been posted before.
This is a conversation between Senator Kerry and a resident of Quincy who has been speaking to elected officials about the heating oil problem. Senator Kerry had just come from a stop at the local ice cream shop. The video was shot on August 5.
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cougar says
gets it.
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p>It’s good to see him answering the questions and talking to people.
cambridge_paul says
That must be why John Kerry does not support marriage equality.
silver-blue says
The diary is about people – straight, gay, or indifferent – worried abut not being able to make it through the winter because they can’t afford heating oil.
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p>I don’t see Kerry doing anything that would stop any 2 (adult) people – straight, gay, or indifferent – from keeping each other warm in lieu of being able to afford heating oil. Somehow I don’t think that’s a sufficient solution to the high cost of heating oil, though.
cambridge_paul says
on a larger note and talking about the heating issue specifically.
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p>Cougar said she was glad she’s supporting Kerry and that he gets it. Well, it’s most definitely relevant to bring up an issue that John Kerry does not get which is marriage equality and touches upon an issue that Kerry has not dealt with this campaign season.
cougar says
cambridge_paul says
John Kerry does not support marriage equality and he has no constitutional leg to stand on for such a position.
cougar says
Massachusetts residents who heat their homes with natural gas or oil could end up paying nearly $1 billion more this year than they did in 2007, about a 30 percent increase, according to a University of Massachusetts report set to be released today.
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p>Massachusetts residents who heat their homes with natural gas or oil could end up paying nearly $1 billion more this year than they did in 2007, about a 30 percent increase, according to a University of Massachusetts report set to be released today.
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p>From JK.com
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p>Kerry GETS IT.
cougar says
Consumers will likely pay record prices to heat their homes this winter, with a particularly big jump expected in heating oil bills, according to a report to be released today showing how a recent surge in oil prices could hit homeowners.
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p>For heating oil customers the increase may be particularly dramatic. The average U.S. heating oil bill is expected to be a record $1,834 for the winter, up 28% from a year ago and double the cost seen four winters ago. Average prices are expected to top $3 a gallon, up from $2.48 last winter.
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p>The sharp, expected increases are attributed to elevated crude oil prices and low inventories.
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p>Eight percent of U.S. homes use heating oil, mainly in the Northeast.
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“Everything points to a tough couple of months,” NEADA executive director Mark Wolfe says. “(Some) people who could afford last year’s prices, can’t afford this year’s.”
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p>People in the MA understand that it would be inhumane to stand by while seniors freeze to death this winter or kids get sick!!!
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p>Kerr gets that and is trying to help. Too bad Republicans have their head stuck up….and filibustered the LIHEAP.
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p>This is life or death.
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p>People WILL freeze to death this winter.
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p>He GETS that too.
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p>Oh Yeh. Kerry GETS IT and is trying to save lives.
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cougar says
karenc says
do with that issue? How did Kerry vote? How would you have voted? Is there a difference?
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p>Then ask your self if even the repeal of DOMA is likely in the next 8 years – then remember Kerry voted against it and would clearly confirm that vote by voting to repeal it.
silver-blue says
so-called “marriage equality”?
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p>Either way, the diary was about Kerry campaigning on the issue of home heating assistance. Do you have an opinion on that topic?
cambridge_paul says
However, most issues can be spun one way or another. Ex. The vote to authorize the war in Iraq which I view as a negative for Kerry. An argument can be made for and against Kerry on it however. The thing with civil rights however is that it’s hard to spin the story. John Kerry is 100% wrong to not support marriage equality and he doesn’t have a constitutional leg to stand on.
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p>As to heating assistance. Sure, I think Kerry is trying to do some good stuff, but it’s a safe issue. It’s a no-brainer to work for such aid. Where true leadership comes in is tackling the tough issues and taking the right stance even when it’s difficult to do so.
cougar says
silver-blue says
when you are fighting against the Republican ideology. Or else it would be a done deal.
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p>I honestly don’t know enough about the constitutionality issue of gay marriage, I do know of some practical issues for a large chunk of the populace, which is why most of them are so afraid of it, that for a Democrat to raise it in a competitive race, makes the race even more competitive because it galvanizes the opposition. I don’t call that smart politics, I call it counterproductive – considering that domestic partnership rights seemed to be on the march, with more and more companies and states recognizing them – until someone decided to throw it in the face of the conservatives. But gee, what do I know? I’m against the death penalty too…. where’d I lay my “Free Mumia” sign now…
cambridge_paul says
for John Kerry to take up, seeing as how he is a Democrat.
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p>And yeah, domestic partnerships just aren’t good enough. Sorry, but there’s this little ole’ thing called equality. And we already have marriage here in Massachusetts so I’m not sure why you would go backwards and suggest that.
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p>Anyways, if you would like to read up on the issue I suggest starting off with the Goodridge decision.
karenc says
1) He said gay marriage in MA is “settled law”
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p>3) In 2004, he spoke of acting as President to encourage Congress to make the changes needed to give the full federal rights to covil unions that marriage has. That is NOT a small thing. It would in fact be a quantum leap towards gay marriage because it creates more equality than there is now.
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p>As to working on things that were not safe, there are is no prominent Senator I see who has taken as many not safe actions.
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p>Do you really thing that investigating the illegal arming of the Contras was safe? Reagan was extremely popular and as much as half the Democratic party was for supporting the Contras – including the Clintons and Gore.
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p>Do you think it was safe to fight the entire power elite to stop the corruption and support of international nonstate terrorism and international money laundering that BCCI was involved in?
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p>Was standing against Nixon, as a 27 year old vet still dealing with the horros of Vietnam?
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p>Was it safe to be one of the strongest voices against Don’t Ask Don’t Tell?
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p>Was it safe to write the Clean Money/Clean election bill with Welstone?
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p>What in his competitor’s record suggests he would stand against power or that he would stand for principles? What types of cases did he handle as a lawyer? The articles I read suggest he handled many cases of drunk driving – because they could pay.
cambridge_paul says
He only said it’s “settled law” in Mass after the Constitutional Amendment against marriage equality failed, of which he tried to help pass by the way. And only after 75% of the legislature voted against. I’m sure with those type of numbers Mr. Kerry could see how unpopular it is to be against civil rights. Also, he came out and took an ambiguous position only after O’Reilly challenged him of which O’Reilly is a full supporter of marriage equality.
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p>Don’t try to insinuate that he supports marriage equality by the “settled law” phrase because he doesn’t. He chose that phrasing specifically so he could “get by” without actually supporting it.
cougar says
will need weigh in light of other things he does.
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p>If someone only cares about gay marriage and kids and seniors can effing die in the freezing cold next winter, then, I guess they’ll let that one issue determine their vote. On the other hand, if they look at a multitude of issues as well as the having a powerful Senator with seniority on the committees fighting for those additional goals that they want too, then they’ll vote for Kerry.
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p>On the other hand, if they want a guy who can’t even finish off his term on the school board without citing “Other obligations…too busy” and if they want a guy who can’t even bother to post his positions and resume on his website in great detail…then they’ll vote for EOR.
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cambridge_paul says
I can only take so much.
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p>I already discussed heating assistance above. I see it as a safe issue and most any Democrat in office would support it.
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p>Now where we need some leadership the Senator is severely lacking. You seem to not want to discuss that fact that John Kerry does NOT support marriage equality.
cougar says
Since you clearly don’t believe Kerry (just because it’s Kerry) maybe you’ll listen to the Globe:
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p>Think about it…Even EOR as a former fire fighter, surely must get it too! Instead of denigrating this important bill, EOR and his supporters should be putting aside that silly-a$$ rancor and should be out fighting to HELP the poor (and the middle class who may not be able to pay for these increases either.)
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p>Even EOR would have to admit that when a family can’t pay the heating bill, they may try to use alternative means to heat the house. Maybe they run the gas stove, maybe they create a fire and leave it unattended, maybe they get heat lamps that have been proven dangerous too.
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p>Safety isn’t something that one can exaggerate about and if EOR can’t admit it, then he has not business running for Senate!
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p>This is NOT an issue that EOR should even attempt to minimize and nor should you!
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p>This is a life threatening, dangerous situation!
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p>And if you don’t want to support Kerry, the read Sen. Bernie Sanders:
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p>So, you’re right Paul. I’m only into discussing the heating bill because PEOPLE WILL DIE FROM THESE COSTS.
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p>And I’d like to see Ed O’Reilly, the fireman, show some courage and come on BMG and discuss the number of families he had to rescue in the winter time because of fires or carbon monoxide poisoning.
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Even EOR should be able to set aside his rancor to do right by the MA people! If he’s serious about saving lives, then let him show he’s willing to fight for it and not just willing to smear his opponent.
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cambridge_paul says
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p>where I have minimized this issue? That’s an outright lie. I stated that it’s a safe issue for Democrats to support of which it is. And they should be supporting it which Kerry is doing.
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p>On the other hand Kerry does NOT support marriage equality. That is also an issue that he should support and he does not. So then what? It’s okay for the Senator to not support civil rights for a minority?
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p>Why don’t you answer if the Senator is right or wrong on the issue? Should he support marriage equality?
cougar says
But wtf…go ahead and keep talking to yourself.
cadmium says
assistance advocacy. So I agree with Cougar it is minimizing the energy issue to disrupt the thread by challenging re Marriage equality. BTW you are going to find that most Kerry supporters, like myself, actually disagreed with Kerry, as well as Obama, Clinton, and Edwards in not going 100% for marriage equality nationally.
beachmom says
you can push for your candidate. The way you dismiss one of the most important and vital issues for Mass. and the country is quite breathtaking. I dare you and your candidate to suggest to residents of the Commonwealth to get all worked up about gay marriage while calling being able to deal with rising energy costs as a “safe issue”. You’ll be looked at with eyes of puzzlement. Not only are you way off base about what good and important work Kerry is doing on LIHEAP, global climate change, and energy issues, you come across as utterly tone deaf to what the REAL issue staring everyone in the face this winter will be. Yes, even gay couples (married or otherwise) will be affected by the cost of heating oil and gas in 2008 and beyond than any debate of the fine points of what is and ever shall be settled law for gay marriage in Mass.
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cambridge_paul says
on marriage equality. You may not like it being an obvious Kerry supporter, but it’s a fact. Nice of you to simply brush aside an important issue of civil rights.
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p>And as I stated above, I have not dismissed heating assistance as a major issue just as there are many others. Many Democrats are working on it. They are doing what’s right and I don’t see an issue with it. What I do have an issue with is when politicians, namely John Kerry, doesn’t support marriage equality because he either has a bias against gay people or he’s lying about higher office. There’s no other possible reason.
cougar says
karenc says
that he is not part of. I assume he chose that phrase because it is the true situation.
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p>Ed O’Reilly was not a big enough threat for Kerry to change his position because of him. Much is made of him getting 22 % at the convention – less is made of Kerry getting 78%.
bob-neer says
It makes discussion much easier if folks try to stick to the general topic under discussion in each thread — in this case, heating oil. Plus, there has already been a long and involved discussion about marriage equality on your other thread, which I just promoted. Please try to follow this basic etiquette for better discussions. If you want to have a general discussion, just make a new post and ask people to weigh in on whatever campaign issue they want. Thanks.
cougar says
“People in the north understand that it would be inhumane to stand by while seniors freeze to death this winter or kids get sick,”
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p>”This is life or death. People are dying in the summer heat. People will freeze to death this winter.”
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p>So get it Paul? We have winter 3 months away and Republicans have once again stifled legislation, obstructed legislation, that would have saved lives.
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p>He’s trying to save lives. He understands that people are choosing between food and gas. And when winter comes, they will be choosing between food, gas, and heating fuel and he’s working his a$$ to get SOMETHING DONE for the people of MA.
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nomad943 says
The people of the commonwealth are so fortunate to have a man such as Mr Kerry waiting in reserve.
What an asset, especialy if any of the commonwealths proposed wind farms should reach fruition.
Having the capacity to deploy John, the domesticaly produced bag of wind energy source that he is, to the imaginary wind farms could help power many communitiies, warding away winters cold.
And on that subject, rather than dole out even more cash to pay SOME peoples outrageous heating costs, why doesnt Johnny get out of the way and let the market develop the reources required to lower the cost for EVERYONE.
I for one am not content to stand idly by worshipping his eminence, in the hope that some day I become poor enough to merit his public dole.
GET OUT OF THE WAY JOHN!
cougar says
However, I don’t see anything that tells me what the market has done to fix the situation except…raise prices even more!
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p>Why don’t you toss some links and facts out here instead of just sarcasm and nastiness and hot air?
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p>If you have specific market solutions that you can point to, then maybe some of us will decide to look at your information and decide if your original snark was meaningful or just pure pettiness.
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p>As it stands right now. You’ve got zero. Zero facts. And you have no information in your post that shows that the Republicans or anyone else has done anything else to improve the situation.
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p>Hell, you don’t even bother posting facts about how Kerry is in the way.
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p>Tell you what…I won’t hold my breath waiting for your facts and verifiable links.
nomad943 says
If it were my choice and I had some oil I wouldn’t prohibit using it. Just doesnt seem like a good plan to get costs down.
If it were my choice and I had the technology to build nuclear power plants, I would join the rest of the world in doing so, rather than importing oil from Arabs to fight wars to prevent others from … building nuclear power plants.
If it were my choice …
But alas its not … its Kerry’s.
Must be time for a speach, I can feel the breeze kicking up …
cougar says
Hey..would you chose to build your home or live and work near those nuclear plants?
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p>Are you willing to have them bury the nuclear waste in your backyard? Are you willing to allow the nuclear waste to accidentally leak into your drinking water? Are you willing to have the cattle eat the grass near any nuclear waste dump sites?
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nomad943 says
I hope you are well compensated for your time.
My reply wont take as long … lol
gary says
as bad as bears.
cougar says
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Furthermore, I have family members who have studied nuclear physics as well and worked on nuclear submarines. And I showed them you’re graphic art. They want to know where you studied science so that they can make sure their kids don’t go to that school too.
nomad943 says
Know how I could tell? Becuase you cant keep your replies under a thousand words, a lot like your mentor John Kerry, when in doubt baffle them with bullsh*t. Who has time to read all that crap?
Well brainiac, I am a mere chemical engineer with 35 years in the field. Obviously my limited knowledge pales in comparison to your well rounded self so could you tell us again the relevance of Chernobyl, a work of art created by a corrupted communist regime, or 3 mile island, our worst nuclear disaster, where the death toll was … zero and the injury count was … zero.
Hmm ….
I await your heated reply.
cougar says
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nomad943 says
I personaly do not know any bears to judge their temperment by, but what is really scary IMO are rabid racoons. I tremble just imagining that there might be some lurking in the shadows ….
Did you hear that? What was that sound?
gary says
Cougers appear rather impotent
cougar says
Next move?
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cougar says
Furthermore, you’re smart enough to realize that the actions our government took after Chenobyl and after the 3 mile Island scare offered more protections against nuclear accidents.
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p>Furthermore, though immediate deaths were not caused there were long term consequences and whole towns of people getting cancer many years later.
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nomad943 says
The heck with rabbid senators, these things are something to be running from. I heard someplace they were a result of CLIMATE CHANGE!
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Raccoon Eats House @ Yahoo! Video
gary says
Imagine the carnage if a racoon got into a reactor!
cougar says
However you’ve convinced everyone that you’re this:
cougar says
You didn’t even bother posting facts or links.
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nomad943 says
cougar says
Massachusetts residents who heat their homes with natural gas or oil could end up paying nearly $1 billion more this year than they did in 2007, about a 30 percent increase, according to a University of Massachusetts report set to be released today.
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p>Heating costs are expected to keep rising, the report says. The state’s average household oil bill next year could top $3,000, according to the report by the UMass Donahue Institute, a university think tank. All told, consumers can expect to spend $4.45 billion for gas and oil heat in 2009 – a $469 million increase from 2008.
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karenc says
to married couples, how is this relevant?
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p>So, for an issue where Kerry changing his position to exactly yours would not impact a single vote, you feel it reasonable to bring this issue up constantly? He was endorsed by the Bay State Stonewall Democrats because of his excellent record.
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p>I have yet to hear ANYTHING that O’Reilly or Beatty have done either in their careers or as activists that demonstrates why they could be decent Senators. Senator Kerry is among the dozen most influential.
karenc says
assuming the final environmental reports are positive. Waiting for the reports, while sounding otherwise enthusiastic – as he did on the conference call that bloggers reported here a few months ago, is a sensible positive position. His opponent was the one who was against it earlier in the year.
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p>This will be one of the first large offshore projects, if it goes well, I would assume it will be copired elsewhere. If it fails, it will be a setback for other projects being approved. For that reason alone, it is a very good idea to do the planning as well as it can be done. Even with the best planning, there will likely be difficulties to overcome – but eliminating those that can be forseen is simply prudent.
silver-blue says
of why we should all be working to put MORE Democrats in Congress.
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cadmium says
done a great job getting these recorded. That is activist grass roots advocacy.