I wonder if our differently-winged brethren will comment on this…
libby-ruralsays
Who believes everything the MSM and Obama tells her
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p>Laurel – YOU ARE WRONG – WE LIBERATED IRAQ AND THE PEOPLE LOVE US – Oh some might not love us – but they are either dead or in the process of dying and hopefully we will KILL every last one.
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p>Just what does quickly mean to Liberals anyway?
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p>Lowest amount of casualties in an American WAR – EVER
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p>WMD’s – John Kerry, Hillary, all your Liberal friends were wrong then too – including Obama.
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p>Hussain WAS a WMD you simpleton
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p>and lastly – YOU HATE the military – as does OBAMA so why would we believe anything he or YOU say???????
mike-in-misays
Laurel is wrong because I disagree with her, and I am right. (And because she hates America.)
p>Thanks for posting is Laurel. Going viral. lol đŸ™‚
billxisays
I thought Nobama was totally against the war running for the nomination. Now he is not about immediate withdrawal, but gradual. How do the peaceniks (no offense) feel about that now? We the middle class are going to be the backbone of the economy bailout. Nobama is preaching middle class tax cuts. No matter how I add, subtract, multiply, divide, use a calculator, or slide rule, I can’t fathom how. A side question please? Now that Sonia Chang-Diaz is the party nominee, will Cadillac and Mumbles support her? Their good buddy is running a sticker campaign.
Didn’t pay much attention during the primaries, did you? Next time learn something about what you’re saying before you say it.
tbladesays
McCain’s tax cuts for the rich will lower revenues by $1 trillion (with a t) dollars more than Obama’s tax plan.
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p>Add that to the fact McCain wants to continue indefinitely the Iraq war that costs $10 billion per month and says he will balance the budget by 2013! How’s that gonna work?
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p>Any reasonable person who thinks Obama’s plan doesn’t add up has to be even more incredulous and more against the John “I don’t really understand the economy” McCain’s alleged plan, especially if said plan might fall under the stewardship of Sarah “I can’t complete sentences in Katie Couric interviews” Palin.
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p>Whatever you say about Obama’s tax cuts you have to say it ten times stronger about McCain’s cuts.
… isn’t the current fiscal crisis, it’s the fact that all the Iraq spending is kept off the books.
billxisays
Nobama’s middle class tax cuts. Not John “I don’t really understand the economy” McCain. But you gotta admit: Nobama looked really stupid not knowing the name on the bracelet he put on that night. I find it abhorrent to trivialize our war dead like that. Memo to Mssrs. Obama and Biden: please come down off your pedestals and maybe show us you’re nor elite. The race is close. I could be persuaded not to vote for McCain.
lightirissays
persuaded not to vote for McCain. You are an ideologue of the worst order, as everything you’ve ever written here proves. If you think for a second anyone is going to fall for this faux ambivalence, I’ve got a bridge to nowhere I can sell you cheap.
billxisays
She put the money to better use. I think Alan Keyes looks good.
Uh. Beg to differ. He paused for a second, mostly because he wanted to start the sentence talking about the mother, it appeared to me.
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p>But really, this all you got? He paused for a second to be sure he didn’t misspeak?
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p>How is this worse than McGoo’s constant running at the mouth, or indeed, getting the entire circumstances WRONG about the Pakistani military coop? (If you can use silly names about Obama, I can use them about McCain, and mine is way more apt, and definitely funnier. At least mine makes sense.)
huhsays
Especially after seeing this:
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billxisays
On no how, no way, no McCain. Hillary Clinton said at the democratic convention. See, I pay attention sometimes. But I would appreciate answers when I raise a question about your highnesses rather than a rant about McCain. And yes, Nobame looked like an out-of-touch fool with the bracelets. A serious question please? Whats wrong with the Lowell Sun? I have found it to be an enjoyble read on occasion.
If you want to be taken seriously, make serious arguments.
tbladesays
Who’s plan is better? McCain’s or Obama’s?
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p>I’m not under the illusion that Obama has the perfect plan, but compared to McCain’s nearly impossible plan, I see Obama’s proposal as a hundred times more pragmatic, achievable and beneficial to the greatest number of Americans – no contest. You?
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p>I don’t think you can justify voting for McCain if you think Obama’s middle class tax cuts are BS. But you’re welcome to try.
hmmm… the guy who owns one house, or the guy who owns – what? 7? 10?
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p>I think you missed the memo: the repugs have stopped using the ‘elite’ card months ago – with McSame, that dog won’t hunt.
kbuschsays
I’ve been thinking a lot about the “elitism” charge and I have come to think that Central Mass Dad is correct in saying that it reflects a sensitivity — an over-sensitivity really — to whether the candidate has contempt for the tastes, culture, or choices of others. That’s how a rich guy like McCain can be spared the charge of elitism and somehow an upper middle class guy like Obama can be tarnished with it. A lot of this is pure foolishness as more and more Americans drink lattes, dine on sushi, and purchase arugula at the super market.
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p>(Treading on riskier ground.) I also think that there is a structural disadvantage progressives or liberals face here. We’re all for the common good. There is talk about the common good that is very moving. (Think Martin Luther King’s speeches or Axelrod-influenced rhetoric at its best.) The down side of being for the common good is asserting that one has found out what the common good is, what it requires, and how we must all pitch in for its sake. I regard all that as necessary and as a sign of leadership, but it’s also intrusive. Inescapably so. It’s intrusive in a way that fealty to the wonderful, magical, and non-existent free market is not intrusive. Even if more taxation increases everyone’s health coverage — and by extension health — and prevents Greenland’s ice from sinking into the sea and flooding most Eastern Massachusetts towns, increased taxation is still more intrusive than decreased taxation. To argue for it successfully requires a closer connection to the voting public than Bush’s or McCain’s policies require. I think that there is a fundamental asymmetry here that goes beyond the media bias and makes it more difficult to be a successful progressive politician.
huhsays
The two biggest mouthpieces for that particular attack are Ann Coulter and laura Ingraham, both highly successful Ivy League grads.
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p>In Laura’s world Barbara Streisand should “Shut Up And Sing” while Toby Keith is a great American speaking his mind. And people like gary still attack Barney Frank by accusing him of sipping lattes, ignoring the fact that there’s a Starbucks on every corner.
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p>The RMG braintrust (ok, geo999) is now whining about Obama going to schools they could never afford. Never mind that “man of the people” George W. Bush went to Philips Andover and Yale and summers in Kennebunkport.
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p>The good news is that dog doesn’t seem to be hunting in this election.
kbuschsays
In Gary’s defense, on being challenged about applying a liberal stereotype to Frank he was able to produce this gem quickly:
Bob Boehner slithers in, hides under Hank Paulson’s desk, then transfers more power from Congress to the President that has, in the history of the US ever happened, and says the equivalent of ‘yeah, and be sure you spellcheck that document. We’re watching.’
(The idea of Frank sipping lattes seems incongruous: Frank has always struck me as a person on a steady diet of meat and potatoes.)
Darcy Burner, running for a House seat in Washington state, ran a biography ad earlier on in which she emphasized that she had “put herself through Harvard”. Probably the right way to handle it: it shows ambition and climbing up, rather than looking down.
johnt001 says
I wonder if our differently-winged brethren will comment on this…
libby-rural says
Who believes everything the MSM and Obama tells her
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p>Laurel – YOU ARE WRONG – WE LIBERATED IRAQ AND THE PEOPLE LOVE US – Oh some might not love us – but they are either dead or in the process of dying and hopefully we will KILL every last one.
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p>Just what does quickly mean to Liberals anyway?
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p>Lowest amount of casualties in an American WAR – EVER
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p>WMD’s – John Kerry, Hillary, all your Liberal friends were wrong then too – including Obama.
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p>Hussain WAS a WMD you simpleton
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p>and lastly – YOU HATE the military – as does OBAMA so why would we believe anything he or YOU say???????
mike-in-mi says
Laurel is wrong because I disagree with her, and I am right. (And because she hates America.)
david says
sabutai says
We seem to have gained a new one in the last couple of days. Is s/he getting libby rural’s spot?
david says
cadmium says
lightiris says
Should be converted into a TV ad and aired stat.
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p>Thanks for posting is Laurel. Going viral. lol đŸ™‚
billxi says
I thought Nobama was totally against the war running for the nomination. Now he is not about immediate withdrawal, but gradual. How do the peaceniks (no offense) feel about that now? We the middle class are going to be the backbone of the economy bailout. Nobama is preaching middle class tax cuts. No matter how I add, subtract, multiply, divide, use a calculator, or slide rule, I can’t fathom how. A side question please? Now that Sonia Chang-Diaz is the party nominee, will Cadillac and Mumbles support her? Their good buddy is running a sticker campaign.
lynne says
“being reality based.”
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p>Something John McGoo couldn’t do it if bit him on the proverbial ass.
david says
Didn’t pay much attention during the primaries, did you? Next time learn something about what you’re saying before you say it.
tblade says
McCain’s tax cuts for the rich will lower revenues by $1 trillion (with a t) dollars more than Obama’s tax plan.
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p>Add that to the fact McCain wants to continue indefinitely the Iraq war that costs $10 billion per month and says he will balance the budget by 2013! How’s that gonna work?
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p>Any reasonable person who thinks Obama’s plan doesn’t add up has to be even more incredulous and more against the John “I don’t really understand the economy” McCain’s alleged plan, especially if said plan might fall under the stewardship of Sarah “I can’t complete sentences in Katie Couric interviews” Palin.
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p>Whatever you say about Obama’s tax cuts you have to say it ten times stronger about McCain’s cuts.
mr-lynne says
… isn’t the current fiscal crisis, it’s the fact that all the Iraq spending is kept off the books.
billxi says
Nobama’s middle class tax cuts. Not John “I don’t really understand the economy” McCain. But you gotta admit: Nobama looked really stupid not knowing the name on the bracelet he put on that night. I find it abhorrent to trivialize our war dead like that. Memo to Mssrs. Obama and Biden: please come down off your pedestals and maybe show us you’re nor elite. The race is close. I could be persuaded not to vote for McCain.
lightiris says
persuaded not to vote for McCain. You are an ideologue of the worst order, as everything you’ve ever written here proves. If you think for a second anyone is going to fall for this faux ambivalence, I’ve got a bridge to nowhere I can sell you cheap.
billxi says
She put the money to better use. I think Alan Keyes looks good.
lynne says
Uh. Beg to differ. He paused for a second, mostly because he wanted to start the sentence talking about the mother, it appeared to me.
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p>But really, this all you got? He paused for a second to be sure he didn’t misspeak?
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p>How is this worse than McGoo’s constant running at the mouth, or indeed, getting the entire circumstances WRONG about the Pakistani military coop? (If you can use silly names about Obama, I can use them about McCain, and mine is way more apt, and definitely funnier. At least mine makes sense.)
huh says
Especially after seeing this:
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billxi says
On no how, no way, no McCain. Hillary Clinton said at the democratic convention. See, I pay attention sometimes. But I would appreciate answers when I raise a question about your highnesses rather than a rant about McCain. And yes, Nobame looked like an out-of-touch fool with the bracelets. A serious question please? Whats wrong with the Lowell Sun? I have found it to be an enjoyble read on occasion.
bob-neer says
If you want to be taken seriously, make serious arguments.
tblade says
Who’s plan is better? McCain’s or Obama’s?
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p>I’m not under the illusion that Obama has the perfect plan, but compared to McCain’s nearly impossible plan, I see Obama’s proposal as a hundred times more pragmatic, achievable and beneficial to the greatest number of Americans – no contest. You?
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p>I don’t think you can justify voting for McCain if you think Obama’s middle class tax cuts are BS. But you’re welcome to try.
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ryepower12 says
hmmm… the guy who owns one house, or the guy who owns – what? 7? 10?
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p>I think you missed the memo: the repugs have stopped using the ‘elite’ card months ago – with McSame, that dog won’t hunt.
kbusch says
I’ve been thinking a lot about the “elitism” charge and I have come to think that Central Mass Dad is correct in saying that it reflects a sensitivity — an over-sensitivity really — to whether the candidate has contempt for the tastes, culture, or choices of others. That’s how a rich guy like McCain can be spared the charge of elitism and somehow an upper middle class guy like Obama can be tarnished with it. A lot of this is pure foolishness as more and more Americans drink lattes, dine on sushi, and purchase arugula at the super market.
<
p>(Treading on riskier ground.) I also think that there is a structural disadvantage progressives or liberals face here. We’re all for the common good. There is talk about the common good that is very moving. (Think Martin Luther King’s speeches or Axelrod-influenced rhetoric at its best.) The down side of being for the common good is asserting that one has found out what the common good is, what it requires, and how we must all pitch in for its sake. I regard all that as necessary and as a sign of leadership, but it’s also intrusive. Inescapably so. It’s intrusive in a way that fealty to the wonderful, magical, and non-existent free market is not intrusive. Even if more taxation increases everyone’s health coverage — and by extension health — and prevents Greenland’s ice from sinking into the sea and flooding most Eastern Massachusetts towns, increased taxation is still more intrusive than decreased taxation. To argue for it successfully requires a closer connection to the voting public than Bush’s or McCain’s policies require. I think that there is a fundamental asymmetry here that goes beyond the media bias and makes it more difficult to be a successful progressive politician.
huh says
The two biggest mouthpieces for that particular attack are Ann Coulter and laura Ingraham, both highly successful Ivy League grads.
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p>In Laura’s world Barbara Streisand should “Shut Up And Sing” while Toby Keith is a great American speaking his mind. And people like gary still attack Barney Frank by accusing him of sipping lattes, ignoring the fact that there’s a Starbucks on every corner.
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p>The RMG braintrust (ok, geo999) is now whining about Obama going to schools they could never afford. Never mind that “man of the people” George W. Bush went to Philips Andover and Yale and summers in Kennebunkport.
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p>The good news is that dog doesn’t seem to be hunting in this election.
kbusch says
In Gary’s defense, on being challenged about applying a liberal stereotype to Frank he was able to produce this gem quickly:
(The idea of Frank sipping lattes seems incongruous: Frank has always struck me as a person on a steady diet of meat and potatoes.)
Darcy Burner, running for a House seat in Washington state, ran a biography ad earlier on in which she emphasized that she had “put herself through Harvard”. Probably the right way to handle it: it shows ambition and climbing up, rather than looking down.