He basically spoke to the haters and said why do you care? Why do you want to put out an ember of love? Why not give gays and lesbians the same chance to express love in a hateful divisive world? He had the perfect tone, not the screamer, as if he was speaking directly to the listener.
I am not able to put a link up at this point but he will be back on at 10pm.
Please share widely!
striker57 says
I listened to Olberman’s rerun at ten. His words were well intentioned and heartfelt but I could not help but wonder why they were a week late.
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p>Last Monday night, before CA voters went to the polls, would have been a far better time to give this “special commentary”. Much better then a 6 days after the fact.
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p>So yes, as a Olberman fan (and a progressive thankful for his voice on the air), his advocacy was appreciated.
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p>But better done a week ago when polls showed Prop 8 as a close race.
laurel says
saying late last week how bad prop 8 was. just like all my neighbors. they’re all sad and sorry for me after the time they can possibly be of use. pathetic.
cambridge_paul says
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laurel says
librus says
I’m still shocked. California of all places. And, most disappointing, blacks voted overwhelmingly in favor of discrimination. Why are people in this country so mean spirited? I’ve traveled extensively to Europe (the supposed “old world”) and they just don’t give a shit about this stuff. They laugh at us. Even the so called “third world” is way beyond this. What is our problem?
laurel says
It is incorrect to imply that blacks voted heavily for prop 8 because they’re black. Religious conservatives (which a preponderance of blacks are) voted overwhelmingly for Prop 8, as did senior citizens, people who are concerned about terrorism, etc. Yes, homophobia is a real problem among blacks. But it’s also an enormous problem among whites, latinos, etc.
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p>Also, while s-s marriage is more prevalent in Europe than the Americas, it it by no means widely accepted nor was is easily attained.
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p>I dont’ mean this to be a personal attack, but your response is a model of “what is our problem”. Ask yourself why you’re surprised that this thing passed, when the same or even more severe amendments had already passed in 27 other states. Why didn’t you know about that? The reason it passed is because most Americans don’t care enough about gay citizens being stripped of their birthright that they even pay attention, and seem satisfied with saying tut tut how awful after the fact. And so now we have 30 states where gay people can’t marry and/or have any domestic partnership, and several others where gay people can’t adopt or foster children. How many more will fall before “patriots” care enough to speak up when it will do some good? I’ve ceased holding my breath. This country’s ideals and laws are a sham. I don’t know who the veterans we honor today fought for, but clearly it wasn’t for me.
librus says
My questions were obviously rhetorical. And your assessment of my interest and involvement in this cause is baseless and insulting. I know why we can’t get it done in this country and it goes to the very foundation of our society. The USA is arrogant, so much so that we refuse to even consider that other countries do some things better. And while you may be right that the road to equality in Europe (and other places) was somewhat rocky, the relevant point is that they did it. And we have not.
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p>As for the blacks, you can give them a pass on religious grounds but for me bigotry is bigotry. There’s no “acceptable” kind.