It’s maddening enough to see media figures talk about their circle in the third person — the phenomenon of the CNN pundit who grouses that “the media is too obsessed with process”…right before nattering on about process. It’s shameful coming from a Beltway talking head, but so much the worse from a Bostonian “pundit” who writes for a supposedly “alternative” paper.
According to Bernstein, Martha Coakley’s problem is that…well, she’s leading and has been for quite some time. Well, we can’t have that:
When you’re the hands-down frontrunner in the biggest political campaign going, you’re going to get a lot of tough scrutiny from the press…It’s no surprise that Martha Coakley has been getting that tough scrutiny.
Scrutiny sounds like such a good thing when you use it the way the dictionary does, and not the way Bernstein does. For him scrutiny is pundits “unimpressed”, reacting to “hoopla”, “gushing” over other candidates, or declaring she “ain’t got no soul”. Oh, and the Herald. Bernstein does get points for admitting how laughable he and his media colleagues are…he can’t keep up the ruse that this amounts to “scrutiny” for long:
So far, Coakley’s campaign has been unable to change the topic. I think that’s because the storylines she’s pushing are campaign-process stories….None of this is more interesting to the media than the other stories — and besides, they all reinforce the assumption that she is the frontrunner, and thus deserving of extra scrutiny.
At least Bernstein is honest enough to admit that “scrutiny” is just editor bull session synonym for “whatever interests the people in this room”. Those of us not in the media might think this is an indictment on the media. Our first new Senator in decades, and the media is serving up clusters of process stories, odes to minor candidates and the Herald‘s latest muckraking. Why, one might think that this is a step back from discussions about foreign policy, the economy, or other major topics. One might think the media has some thinking to do about this shortcoming….
I’m curious to see whether the campaign tries to ride all this out, or tries something more aggressive to change the topic.
Oh, it’s Coakley’s problem! Phew! For a second there, I though Bernstein & Co. would stop examining their own navels. Close one.
Mr. Bernstein, it is columns such as this, and your other piece that you reference, that are part of the problem. If somebody should scrutinize Coakley in the real sense of the word — and what the heck, maybe the other candidates, too, if you’re feeling ethical — why not you? Do you want to step up and give Coakley real problems because she refuses to take hard stands on education or foreign policy? Or do you want to join the herd, trying to find a new angle to examine, er, “scrutinize” Coakley because she’s the front-runner and you’re bored?
There are a lot of people having tough times right now, and if the media isn’t interested in doing its job, I’m sure there are plenty of people eager to do it in your place.
neilsagan says
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sabutai says
Bernstein is trying to pretend that the “issues” in the campaign include pundits being “unimpressed” or saying she “ain’t got no soul”. I think those are pretty clearly issues not for the electorate, but for the media. The electorate tends to care about jobs, Iraq, the environment — all things ignored by the sources Bernstein references.
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ryepower12 says
this past session, when Mike was criticizing her campaign efforts. I can’t say that I’m impressed with the campaign in any particular way, but she’s doing something right, given the fact that she’s (so far) holding her lead.
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sabutai says
Coakley started with better favorables, better name recognition, more money, and better organization. I think she’s trying to wait out the clock so it comes down to those factors, rather than questions of issues and ideology.
eddiecoyle says
First, it was that the male political elite in Massachusetts wasn’t giving Martha Coakley a fair shake because she is a woman. Now, according to sabutai, it is the mainstream and alternative media’s self-infatuation with their roles as the key shapers of the electoral dynamic of the U.S. Senate campaign that is actually causing Coakley problems in her campaign.
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2) Her tepid attitude and inadequate actions regarding using the law enforcement authority and bully pulpit of the office of Massachusetts Attorney General to breakthe nexus of legal and illegal political corruption in state and local government contracting and bond finances that has caused the Commonwealth at least a couple of hundred of millions of dollars over the last years.
3) Her coziness with the political elite on Beacon Hill and how it has affected her AG office’s investigations into political scandals such as the one enveloping former Speaker of the House DiMasi.
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justice4all says
God love ya, eddiecoyle, you have produced a classic examply of how women candidates are held responsible for every bloody thing that goes wrong. It’s like the “mom syndrome” – something has gone wrong in my life, therefore, it’s my mother’s fault.
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Martha is now responsible for all improper prosecutions throughout the Commonwealth, forward and backward looking, due to the Middlesex Fells Acre daycare case that was opened by Scott Harshbarger, conviction upheld by the SJC, overturned, reinstated….and yet, Harshbarger went on to run for Governor, gets trotted out at events. Where’s the hue and cry? And the Woodward case: The child is dead, the nanny admitted to not being as gentle as she might have been. You may think the prosecution was “zealous” but that poor baby didn’t kill himself. Both sides agree that the child died of intracranial bleeding, and the timing of the incident that was questionable. By all means, lets hang this on Martha, too. And hang ALL the questionable prosecutions on her, because when something goes wrong, let’s blame “mommie.”
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This one was my favorite…because decades of a culture on Beacon Hill is to be placed on Martha – and not the AGs before her, Reilly, Harshbarger. The MWRA was established in 1984, Harshbarger territory. Martha wasn’t even at the DAs at that time, she was in private practice. And even when she joined the DA, she wasn’t in white collar, political corruption – she was in the child abuse unit. No blame for Harshbarger and Reilly, who allowed that culture to get a foot hold, and somehow Martha’s supposed to clean up 20 plus years of this stuff in 2 years?
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somervilletom says
This isn’t about gender. Tom Reilly crashed and burned from the same trajectory.
justice4all says
Coakley was criticized for coming out too soon, too aggressively after the passing of the Senator. If she hadn’t, she would have been criticized for not coming out strong enough.
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neilsagan says
he be criticized for his part in that fiasco too.
The bill for overzealous prosecution is now past due.
justice4all says
there’s a dead child. This was not an academic exercise, but a real-life drama that played out in one surburban household, and later, in the courtroom. The nanny admitted she had handled the baby not as gently as she should have. Louise was also convicted by a jury, not just by the prosecution.
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christopher says
…but the child was not murdered. My understanding is that murder requires intent to kill and I never saw that intent on Louise Woodward’s part. As I recall the jury asked the judge whether convicting of manslaughter was an option and they were told no. Granted I wasn’t on the jury and did not hear all testimony and see all evidence, but from what I could gather if my only choices were guilty or not guilty to the charge of murder not guilty would have been a very easy verdict for me.
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hrs-kevin says
She was just an au pair and really should not have been left alone with the baby as often as she was. Au pairs are not supposed to be left alone with infants for long periods of time.
justice4all says
You sound like you’re blaming the parents. There are, in fact, au pairs that specialize in infants, so it’s not a “generalized” category. In this country, au pairs can work up to 45 hours a week.
neilsagan says
The prosecution from Middlesex County made the “shaken baby syndrome” argument to convict Louise Woodward for second degree murder. They won and they got a 15 year sentence, the critical element being intent. The prosecution argued intent to murder and the jury found intent to murder. On appeal, the judge changed the verdict and the sentence to manslaughter and time served, about 260 days.
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justice4all says
In the interest of fairness, can you honestly state that the science available in 1997 was “junk science?” Dr. Patrick Barnes, the star expert witness for the prosecution said in 2007 (10 years after the fact) that if the science available now had been available THEN, there would have been a different result. So now we’re going to hang Martha for what? Not having the science available to her then? Are you a lawyer, Neil? Who says that shaking a baby, which we know can kill them, can’t be considered intent? It’s just like freaking drunk driving – if you drive drunk, you know you can kill people. There’s the intent. If you shake a baby hard enough – you can kill him. It happens all the time.
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neilsagan says
Clinical medical and scientific research communities are in disagreement as to whether it is possible to determine if a given head injury is due to an accident or abuse. In other words, the theory is not settled science. Accidents, by definition, are not intentional.
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to a finding of manslaughter. I conclude the case was overcharged, and that the jury failed by finding intent to murder without compelling evidence.
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paulsimmons says
Brian Joyce was criticized for the same thing. Jumping the gun prematurely during Joe Moakley’s terminal illness.
somervilletom says
Martha Coakley’s gender doesn’t matter to me.
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justice4all says
Personally, I think some awesome candidates actually suck at the job they’ve run for….it happens. I try to choose people whom I think can actually do the job once elected.
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somervilletom says
I assumed that you joined me in opposing Kerry Healey, that’s why I mentioned her. I think each of us opposed her because of her positions, and I assume that you also joined me in rejecting the despicable campaign she led. Her gender was irrelevant.
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justice4all says
or anyone, BT, of preferring Mike Capuano due to gender bias. Go back to all of my comments – and you will find that I have asked people posting the negatives to considering writing “I like Mike” commentaries and why…because I want to know what they think Mike’s qualities, attributes, experience, etc are and how he can do a better job as Senator than anyone else. I am still waiting for that commentary. As I pointed out previously, my family is supporting Mike, having liked and admire
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somervilletom says
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justice4all says
misunderstand my words. My comment was a direct rebuttal to eddiecoyle’s comments, which made some broadweeping and less than fair claims about MC. Reread his post and mine…it’s up a bit, but reread it. It will at least give you context.
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somervilletom says
especially with this:
“What I object to is the BS that some of his supporters are pushing on Martha Coakley. There’s plenty to like about Mike without the crap they’ve been engaging in.”
justice4all says
or anyone, BT, of preferring Mike Capuano due to gender bias. Go back to all of my comments – and you will find that I have asked people posting the negatives to considering writing “I like Mike” commentaries and why…because I want to know what they think Mike’s qualities, attributes, experience, etc are and how he can do a better job as Senator than anyone else. I am still waiting for that commentary. As I pointed out previously, my family is supporting Mike, having liked and admire
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sabutai says
As I pointed out, there are legitimate questions to ask Coakley, Capuano, Khazei, and Pagliucci. Even stripping the three you mention of their hysterical phrasing, those are legitimate issues.
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paulsimmons says
This kind of stuff is routine in political reporting. The problem is that most pundits are political naifs, which makes them easy to spin. It’s been my experience that their arrogance is matched only by their gullibility.
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christopher says
The only stories that might both be categorized as relevant to public discussion and internal to campaigns is whom the money is coming from? Journalists don’t need to get into how well a campaign is organized or this strategy or that strategy. They should be asking the candidates what their priorities and views on issues are, as well as background information, in order to assist voters in making an informed decision on election day.
paulsimmons says
Campaigns fill out scores of policy and process questionnaires from media and advocacy groups, and barring a clumsy or (honestly) unorthodox answer the general public response is a yawn.
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christopher says
“Most people are primarily interested in the horserace aspects, for the same reason that people watch sports.”?
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kirth says
I don’t want to know who’s winning, if telling me that uses up the space or time that should be filled with information on which to base my voting decisions. ‘Who’s winning’ is not part of that information.
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paulsimmons says
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mollypat says
But I do take exception with one of them. I don’t buy the “people get what they ask for” argument in politics or media at large. We are offered very little other than talking heads and spinmasters on the MSM. And given their track record, why anyone listens to them is beyond me. I gave up on it back in 1992 when I was informed that no strong Democratic candidate was willing to take on George H.W. Bush. (I also turn down the sound when the Red Sox are broadcast on national networks.)
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