Really an incredible upset.
I think it’s worth paraphrasing here a comment I read a few days ago on Red Mass Group that went something like: everyone always forgets how proud we Massachusetts Republicans are of our state. We love it! It’s been hard to defend how great Massachusetts is to other Republicans because of how many Democrats this state elects, but we do, have for a long time, and always will.
Massachusetts, after all, comes first in the phrase Massachusetts Republican.
So congratulations to Scott Brown, the MA GOP, and Red Mass Group, which in my opinion galvanized, united and helped organize the movement that accomplished this incredible upset. They have also confirmed the awesome, terrible power of the Hindenberg image, which has been on their website for the past few days and now, of course, remains undefeated. Bruce, of the late mAssbackwards blog, would no doubt be delighted, if only the well fortified and heavily armed cabin he moved to deep in the New Hampshire woods had electricity.
Pop a beer, flip on your DVD of the 2004 ALCS, and fire away about whatever is on your mind.
and her campaign lost it.
A narrow majority of Democrats voted for candidates other than Coakley, but in a four person first-past-the-post race that doesn’t actually mean anything, so yeah you’re right.
At least we can be sure he would have been out there fighting, visible every day. He was my candidate in the primary. I got right behind Coakley once the final race began, because look at the alternative, and now we have to live with what the voters have done. At any rate, congratulations to the Brown campaign for a successful election.
She lost it. Her campaign wasn’t very well run, but they didn’t have a lot to work with either.
I have no problem letting them savor their victory. Congrats on a very well run campaign.
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p>We’ll be back in 2012.
Looking forward to the beer.
Lame Duck
Lame Duck
Lame Duck
they are watching you
Rachel Maddow was just debating with Chris Matthews– he feels it was about policy, and she feels it was about messaging– she said Brown had a clear message (even if it was misleading) and he defined Coakley before she truly defined herself.
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p>Howard Dean was on with Rachel and he shares my sentiments– the Democrats have compromised too much and moved too far to the center-right, in futile efforts to get some Republican support. Time to do what Democrats ought to do– let people know where we stand– that it is not the Republicans, but it’s Democrats who support policies that help the middle class. Time to re-claim the populist message.
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p>And then the Democrats need to start supporting those policies, instead of catering to the special interest, corporations, and the wealthy.
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p>You said it Devorah, thank you!
The Democrats have moved too far to the center? You’ve got to be kidding.
not the center. That’s the problem.
Obama and the Dems have been sellouts to wall street, that’s the biggest issue that sticks in people’s minds. Now they worry that health care will be a sell out to the insurance corporations.
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p>Just remember, I coined “Blue Mass Coup” first.
Conventional wisdom these days defines whatever benefits corporations as ‘the center.’ Just look at your favorite corporate media outlet. Anything that might cut into corporate profit is ‘radical’ or ‘extreme.’
the “center” has become the new cover for the corporate interests. We need to change the term. Our politicians need to move toward serving the people, not corporations.
I think that a lot of misinformation increased Brown’s turnout by right-wing types. I got a few emails from friends that were absolutely false — but my friends believed them completely and they voted when they might not normally have done so. Here’s a sample:
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p>The discourse on the national level, from ACORN to death panels, took its toll on a lot of voters.
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p>I also think that a very simple anti-tax message brought independents into the fold. Remember, this state talked about raising every tax in the book before settling on the sales tax, and property tax bills just came out too. People are hurting, and they are angry when their taxes go up when their income does not. They’d be angry with services being cut too. It’s not a good recipe for the party in power.
These talking points were not invented by the Brown campaign. They were carefully crafted over the years to play on people’s fears and frustrations, for use in campaigns all over the country.
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p>The points appear simple on the surface but they strike me as very sophisticated. It isn’t easy to get people to feel threatened, especially by a policy or group that might actually help them.
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p>I think you’re right about the anti-tax message. The “beauty” of that message is that it can be used in good times or bad. The Bush administration got away with proposing tax cuts as the policy to use in just about any economic climate.
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p>The conservative noise machine has been shouting about tax cuts for more than two decades. If they are as good as advertised, why aren’t we in better economic shape? Why were we in better shape during the Clinton years when taxes were higher? It is an ingenious media strategy that manages to keep these questions under wraps.
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p>One aspect to the talking points is the assumption that the public has a short memory and little appetite for details. The talking points you list above contain elements of truth that lend credibility to the misinformation.
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p>Now I want to read the book “What’s the Matter with Kansas” to see if it can shed light on what is happening here.
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p>My own two cents on why this race fell apart (of course inviting a plethora of bad comments):
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p>1) Flight 253: I don’t care about your attitude on the Patriot Act or water boarding, it brought sharp focus back that there are some folks out there who really, really don’t like us. I remember back to ’79-’80 with Jimmy Carter (a nice guy, but probably one of our worst presidents ever) being burned in effigy in the streets of Tehran. That snapped regular voters’ back that to the fact that we are at war regardless of the political makeup of the White House and Congress.
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p>2) The Health Plan: do we need Health Care Reform? Heck ya, we need health care reform. But we need something that actually will work, instead of this Rube Goldberg scheme thrown up against the wall. The Dem plan has hidden tremendous costs to ordinary working people in this bill (time to start focusing on the financing parts of both the House and Senate legislation folks – if this thing goes through, regardless of your party affiliation, you’re going to be screaming come 2011). A tremendous job of obfuscation so far, but even Beth Healy at the Globe has started to figure out the consequences. The large crowd may not be too smart (although as a fellow NESCAC grad, a brilliant strategy on this board’s part to portray Brown as a Tufts and BC Law alum as a moron ticked me off) but they can sense when too much stuff is being pushed without reasoning.
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p>We do indeed need Health Care Reform. But let’s look back in history to Social Security bipartisan reform in ’83 with Reagan and Tip O’Neill. Will be the death blow to the Democratic party if you try and play games over the next few days before Brown is seated. If this happened in MA where Obama won by 27% a little over a year ago, can you possibly imagine what the rest of the country is thinking now?
Brown, as a reliable Republican, will not contribute any more to a constructive solution than the rest of his party has.
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p>The Rube Goldberg of health reform may be the best that is possible for now. Of course the plan stinks compared with what it should be. But how can government break the stranglehold of big insurance and pharma? These organizations do not play nice or fair. It’s very hard to get elected without their money, and you can’t govern once you’re tainted with it.
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p>That said, I’m appalled at how easily Obama caved to these interests. What happened to the bully pulpit? Can’t say the corporate media is helping here either.
What are our elected Democrats thinking?
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p>“Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time”
– Harry Truman
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p>“The Definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior and expecting a different outcome”
– Anonymous
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p>As soon as Clinton hit the White House, the Democrats turned into Republicans and went on to lose elections in droves.
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p>Obama moves into the White House and pulls the same stunt, with many of the same perpetrators, and gets the same results – the Republicans just gained a Mass Senate seat, unthinkable!
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p>Triangulation/CryptoRepublicanism/DLCism just doesn’t work. I have no idea why otherwise-smart people can’t recognize this.
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p>Time for the leader of our party to replace Rahm, Larry, and Timmy, roll up his sleeves, and get to work doing what he promised.
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p>Let this be a wake up 2×4 to the head.
Congrats to those behind it.
Congratulations.
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p>But we’ll be seeing you a another year or so.
Cheney/Brown 2012!
Fuggin’ A, dude!
Howard and Rachel get it, it wasn’t the campaign or the candidate; there’s a groundswell of discontent with the lack of Democratic message, principles, and more importantly, results. We better change gears pretty quick.
Sure, this wouldn’t have happened a year ago. And sure, Coakley’s not much of a candidate. But it’s not that Coakley ran a poor campaign. She just ran no campaign until it got close. It was like a heavily favored football team taking a knee on the first play of the game. Honestly, I’ve never seen anything like it. And to think that they’ve already started trying to blame the national party. Good luck with that one, folks.
Dems, get a spine. And cut loose some of the corporate cash.
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p>If you need an example take a look at Alan Grayson (D-FL)
Or Mike Capuano, in fact! (my Congressman, who I supported for the Senate race. I voted for Coakley today)
Scott Brown just became a national hero for 40+% of the nation – he’s gonna singlehandedly stop healthcare reform and cap-n-trade discussion.
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he won’t stop health care. Most likely, the House will simply agree with the Senate bill, which means it’s passed and goes to the President. Done.
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p>Now, cap ‘n’ trade, that’s another story.
The Senate bill is much weaker than the House bill, and has all sorts of giveaways to Nebraska, Louisiana, Arkansas… The House bill barely passed; you think they will approve the Senate bill? Maybe – something is better than nothing, but I won’t believe it until I see it.
It was a fun race. I am looking forward to the fall.
Seriously, congrats on all you guys accomplished during this election.
to see this kind of post, after all the teabagger talk.
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p>I’m impressed with you and Bob too.
Brown ran a good campaign, Coakley did not. Listening to her speech tonight I heard a very decent person and someone I actually like. But then there was the cringe moment. And not the first of the campaign (but thankfully the last)
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p>If you’re going to quote the man whose seat you just lost, at least get the friggin’ quote right.
as spoken by Coakley had been presented by someone else (don’t know who) in one of the many tributes to late Senator at the time of his death. I liked the quote when I heard it last fall and wrote it down at the time. It matches Coakley’s words exactly.
This is what I said in an email to a concerned liberal out-of-state friend last night:
Can someone please remind me, why exactly did Coakley beat Capuano easily? Was it the statewide visibility she had? Stronger labor support and, if so,why? Other reasons? He was always more of a “proven fighting liberal.” Wasn’t that what was called for?
Even lots of Democrats don’t like the machine.
He has voted against the majority – e.g. Iraq authorization in 2002 – which I valued. The media simply ate Howard Dean after his scream, which was much ado about nothing.
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p>I like temper. Truman had it. Reagan had it. LBJ too. In a world of control and conformity, I like to see my pols flash anger at appropriate times.
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p>Only saw Obama do it once: after the multi-agency screw-ups on the attempted flight terror attack. Never saw him lose his composure on health care reform. Saw him do faux-anger on banker/investor bonuses. Obama makes nice too much. Conciliation is great, to a certain point. Then ya gotta turn up the heat. I could not visualize Martha in the well of the Senate, exhorting or berating colleagues but I could see Mike doing it.
I’m suggesting that that was the perception, which is why he lost.
Coakley largely got a free pass in the primary — from the press, from many activists, from a lot of electeds. The three other primary candidates didn’t attack her, maybe because of the threat that they would be called sexist by Senate President Murray (who couldn’t even deliver her hometown for Coakley).
Your reasoning makes sense, PP, yet the outcome, IMO, was that the strongest of the four Democratic candidates did not win the nomination. Kinda strange how “ready-to-go statewide infrastructure” trumped “best candidate qua candidate.”
…but I am going to say this.
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p>Not known by BMG – Scott Brown was NOT an obscure senator among Republicans and conservatives. He had made a strong pitch to be Kerry Healey’s LG candidate (another reason I think the ‘picking’ thing is dead) and campaigned statewide. In my neck of the woods, the Chair of the Lower Cape Republican Council worked hard for Scott because of his many apparances at Council breakfasts and support for the group over the years. Multiply that example over and over.
Is really good at retail politics and his positions hit a cord with the voters. The free medicare(for Nebraska) and exempting unions and public sector workers from the taxes in the health care bill is over the top. Also Coakley’s husband retired in his 50’s, that just reminded everyone in the private sector of the pension problems in the state. People do realize you cannot retire in your 50’s from the private sector (the IRS won’t even allow it).
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Her email also included this line:
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p>I only hope the Dems remaining in congress can take a lesson from how the Repubs acted after Obama won. Everything seemed to be going wrong for the GOP, but they didn’t back down from their principles one bit, and didn’t concede that the election was a repudiation. The kept pressing on with their agenda (misguided and dangerous as it is), and now 15 months later they’re celebrating.
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Brown ran a relatively clean campaign. Something I would like to do in my own business. Both candidates had classy closing statements.
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Ted Kennedy’s seat going to a amatuer like Scott Brown? I think this may be the end of the party as we know it in Mass?? Analyze the message, check in with the consultants, maybe focus on college campuses to GOTV
2010 is the end of the Democratic Party, just as 1994 was, just as 2006/8 was the end of the Republicans.
So, Martha Coakley walks into a bar. She goes over to the bartender and she orders a beer. And the bartender says, “No, you’d probably f*ck that up too!”