Now, we’re hearing, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has indicated that, rather than the 15-day extension being discussed yesterday, they’ll be voting on a 30-day extension. Gosh, thanks, Sen. Reid, but we’d really rather have an extension to the end of 2010. Otherwise, the Senate will be clogged up voting on this very basic, necessary issue every month or every three months, millions will continue to live in uncertainty, and the Senate will be even less likely to move forward.
So please, call Sen. Scott Brown (John Kerry, too, if you want — probably less essential). Urge him to vote for an unemployment insurance extension-and let him know that these 15- and 30-day half-measures are inadequate. As they struggle to find work in an economy in which there are 6.4 workers for every single job opening, America’s job-seekers need to know that their meager insurance against disaster is guaranteed for more than 30 days at a time.
Talking Points:
- 26 million Americans are unemployed or don’t have the full-time work they need to support their families.
- Up to 800,000 jobs will be lost nationwide if benefits are not extended through the end of 2010.
- Every $1 of unemployment insurance benefits that is spent results in $1.69 in economic stimulus in the community.
somervilletom says
Today, unemployed workers receive 26 weeks of “regular” Massachusetts unemployment and an additional 20 weeks of “extended” unemployment benefits (for which each worker has to apply, be approved, and so on).
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p>It’s the rest of us who are suffering and in deep despair.
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p>Massachusetts workers need at least another 20 weeks of extended benefits, another 52 would be even better. In addition, the federal COBRA subsidy desperately needs to be extended.
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p>For unemployed workers with families, these two benefits — unemployment and COBRA subsidy — are the difference between despair and utter ruin (as in homeless).
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p>While wealthy politicians repeat tired and false talking points and recycle meaningless campaign slogans, we are creating an army of economic refugees.
laura-at-working-america says
I actually have a friend for whom the COBRA subsidy was the difference between life and death. As in, it was the only reason he was able to afford health insurance at the time he was diagnosed with fairly advanced cancer.
johnd says
But please don’t start with them/us and other incendiary arguments.
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p>There are plenty of businesses and markets that did just fine during that period but that doesn’t make them bad people or bad business governance. Why do people making money or profits have to be labeled “evil”. When il prices were high a few years ago we had to listen to Exxon being labeled “evil”. They made profits, quite an American tradition! They returned money to stock holders, many held by 401K mutual funds…
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roarkarchitect says
I’m supporter of this, but just remember this raises the cost of unemployment insurance in the future. It will make it more expensive to hire employees, and therefore less employees will be hired.
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stomv says
counter-cyclical.
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p>When jobs are few, spend money to stimulate the creation of more.
When jobs are plentiful, tax the system to prevent overburn (and pay for the times when jobs are few).
johnd says
I have a house on the cape and the house insurance has been increasing every year. The reason often cited is the computer models which show a whopper of a hurricane is going to hit the east coast. But of course, higher rates every year and still no hurricane. So I asked the insurance agent if this money gets “banked” for the big one… he laughed. His excuse was they are underwritten by international insurance corporations and they pay high “reinsurance rates” to them. He also said they don’t work on a “pooling” of extra money for the “big one” AND that if there ever was a big one the insurance companies don’t have enough to pay out for large scale devastation.
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p>So much like housing insurance, unemployment should always have a separate bankroll of money for aberrant conditions like now and then let the fund ebb and flow with economic condition. I know it isn’t that simple but it should be.
peter-porcupine says
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Cheaper rates and perfect for second homes. Maybe I’ll switch this year.
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peter-porcupine says
And when you consider the rates – do you have a wind decuctible that is a percentage of the value of the HOUSE? Not a dollar value, but a percentage? Because many do.
roarkarchitect says
The higher unemployment taxes on employers kick in next year. I don’t see any major recovery. Major economists expect the unemployment rate to just dip slightly.
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johnd says
We can always begin to save more in the “unemployment account” in the future. This is a rather unusual situation.
nopolitician says
I think that people on the left are comfortable calling companies that make super-sized profits “evil” because people on the right call the chronically unemployed “lazy” or “shiftless” or those who walk away from their mortgages “irresponsible”.
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but I haven’t called people being foreclosed on as “irresponsible”.
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centralmassdad says
political rhetoric, the reasons therefor, and the reasoning thereunder
somervilletom says
If you want to make the argument that bank executives and bank senior managers have not done disproportionately well in comparison to average workers since October 2008, I’m listening. When I hear about bank and insurance executives losing homes, pulling their kids out of college, or standing in unemployment lines, then we can talk again.
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johnd says
My point was many other businesses did well all last year and that by itself doesn’t make them evil. Does it? Companies like mine had a good year and I had a great year so am I evil (trick question)?
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joeltpatterson says
is because their gains were predatory in nature: they were the ones giving out “liar loans” and putting extra fees on the ordinary people. When they re-structure loans for people who are struggling, they usually throw on extra fees.
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johnd says
No don’t work there either, the only banking I’m involved in is my piggy bank!
liveandletlive says
you were smart enough to sell before the last crash, and that you had reinvested and were making a killing now. My question is: how do you know when a crash is coming? If it’s that obvious, you would think all traders would be in the know. You don’t have to work there to be an insider. Seems to me you’re a pretty well connected guy JohnD.
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liveandletlive says
I buy/sell used textbooks on the side out of my basement which is a giant hassle but I net another $35-45,000 a year (tax free).
johnd says
I think we already had the “part of the underground economy” discussion (yard sales, Ebay…).
somervilletom says
No matter how you try and spin it, you admit to pocketing $35-45K/year that you are not declaring or paying taxes on.
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huh says
JohnD has repeatedly bragged about knowingly hiring illegal immigrants because they’re cheaper:
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johnd says
Helps people pay off the incredibly high taxes we pay (at least that I do). I think you should raise this issue on Beacon Hill. Tell them you want to enforce citizens to declare all revenue from yard sales, Ebay sales… and all unreported income. Go for it!
roarkarchitect says
if you turn your way back machine to the Duke Administration, the DOR did go after yards sales, until the state house created an exemption.
huh says
Especially if you’re running an eBay business making $34-45k per year.
somervilletom says
I’m not sure how many years you’ve been stealing money from struggling young people like my daughter, but I think you should pay it all back before you offer a peep of guidance about what anybody else should do.
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johnd says
You’ll find the reception similar to what the State House did with yard sales… drop it.
huh says
There’s a huge difference between a $35-45k/year BUSINESS and a yard sale.
roarkarchitect says
eventually ebay will report directly to the state and the fed’s. This will happen sooner rather than later.
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somervilletom says
When somebody robs a bank, claiming that “all bank robbers must be caught” is unlikely to sway either the prosecutor or the jury.
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liveandletlive says
$350 in sales at a tag sale is something entirely different from your rather successful small business on ebay.
huh says
You both knowingly commit ethics violations:
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laura-at-working-america says
in the financial crisis and the downturn. There’s something of a difference between having a problem with industries that happened to do well in a recession and having a problem with industries that contribute to a recession, are bailed out by taxpayer money, and continue to fight regulation and pay unthinkably huge bonuses to the executives who caused — or at least should have stopped — the risky behaviors.
billxi says
To blast Senator Kerry when he’s too busy with himself to vote for it. As in 2004.
pcsmith32 says
Is on my top 5 list of things that President Obama has pushed through since he was elected. Its impact on the well being of the folks that have taken advantage of it is truly incredible.
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roarkarchitect says
Massachusetts also has an subsidy for health insurance for the unemployed.
yellowdogdem says
There are income limits on that Massachusetts health plan for people receiving unemployment benefits. The Federal COBRA benefit is incredibly important to many middle class folks who find themselves on the unemployment rolls.
somervilletom says
The Massachusetts plan is limited to those with incomes below 400% of the federal poverty level. I think that translates to about $40K/year for 2009 (I don’t think the 2010 numbers are published yet).
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yellowdogdem says
I think they calculate it by taking a 6-month look back at your income, and then computing 6 months income from unemployment. So it’s a split decision.
roarkarchitect says
they should fix the system. Small businesses actually extend credit to the federal government which then reimburses (not immediately ) them for the Cobra premiums. These premiums are not trivial. If you operate on a line of credit you paying interest to act as a lender to the federal government.
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centralmassdad says
I was under the impression that the Democratic Party was the one that is not hostile to small business.
yellowdogdem says
Yes, but the credit is really short-lived. Don’t you take credits off your federal payroll taxes, which you pay every month?
roarkarchitect says
if could be a loan the length of the Cobra extension.
amberpaw says
Millions of Unemployed face Years without Jobs per the New York Times.
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laura-at-working-america says
For me, this was the money bit:
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lasthorseman says
Nine Chinese engineers for the job I used to have.