The White House is pushing a change where states would “opt into” some common standards and assessments. This would require some MCAS updates no matter what.
So there’s a policy window to open up a few other questions.
My proposal is for DOE (oops: now DESE) to open up 3 different working groups of “People with ideas on MCAS.” The 3 groups:
a. Big Change.
One working group are people who want really big, politically significant changes to the test itself. Like Sab. It would be understood that the bar for change would be high, b/c it’s not like there’s a lot of political capital to make unpopular changes.
b. Graduation.
Another group would look at data on the MCAS graduation requirement. There are various “alternatives” and I don’t think we’ve seen good study on what really happens there.
c. Technical Stuff
The third group would be people like me who think, on balance, MCAS is quite useful at setting a low bar (ie, the pros outweigh the cons). So we’re not trying to blow up the MCAS.
BUT there are a bunch of TECHNICAL issues that would NOT be politically tough to fix. Fixing these issues would help teachers better RESPOND to the data. This is stuff where I can imagine some educators who are often at odds (on things like charters) could work together.
I remember a post where Lightiris described some technical issues with the reading section of the test. Stuff like that.
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I’ll give you one example of a technical problem that needs fixing, and where I don’t see many political problems: the 3rd grade math MCAS.
MCAS is given in Grades 3 to 8, then again in 10. So Grade 3 is the first MCAS.
The key thing that this Grade 3 MCAS SHOULD identify is kids who can’t add, subtract, multiply, and divide. This is a (sadly) big chunk of kids in Springfield, Lowell, Lawrence, Boston, et al.
Instead, the current Grade 3 MCAS is way too ambitious. It over-complicates the job. For example:
The number of students at Park Hill School who were absent each day last week is shown in the tally chart below. (The tally chart has Roman numerals, showing Monday: 12, Tuesday: 5, etc). How many more students were absent on Friday than were absent on Wednesday?
So if a kid gets it wrong, what do you do as a teacher? What exactly did he misunderstand?
Maybe he didn’t understand the words in question.
Maybe he’s confused by tally charts.
Maybe he doesn’t know Roman numerals.
Maybe he can’t subtract (ie, if you simply showed him 15 minus 7, he’d get that wrong, too).
The data makes it hard for 4th grade teachers (and school support systems) to intervene effectively.
Look, I know the Grade 3 and 4 math standards and tests cold. Our charter school sends 25 tutors into 2 different Boston district schools 3x/week for 3 hours/pop. I think I could quote much of the standards document.
The poorly designed early grade MCAS makes tutoring so much harder. You’re working with 1 kid. She cannot add yet. Of course what you want to do is focus on addition til she gets it. But because MCAS covers more math topics than is necessary for the early grades, there’s acute pressure to “move on.”
Now imagine instead you’re the teacher with 20 kids in September, not a tutor with 1 kid. You have this Grade 3 MCAS data. You think “Wow, almost none of my kids got any questions right from last May.” But that data doesn’t really do much to help you understand specifically what kids need.
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An analogy:
Imagine if you wanted to evaluate the basketball skills of 3rd graders. First, you want to know if the kid can run (likely, but he may be disabled). Second, can he dribble. Third, can he make a layup.
But the test was whether a kid could do all 3. Someone watched the kid run, try dribble the length of the floor, and try to make a layup. YOU could not actually WATCH the test.
So all you got from the test was either YES (he did all 3) or NO.
Well what does the NO tell you? Maybe he can’t run or runs in the wrong direction. Maybe he can’t dribble. Maybe he can’t shoot a layup. You have no idea what to work on. Same with Grade 3 MCAS.
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This is fixable. Usually, there’s a one-time cost in changing any test. You can’t do apples-to-apples comparisons of 2011 (new test) to 2010, 2009, etc (old test).
But here you could just add a dozen simple questions to MCAS. It would take the average 3rd grader just a few extra minutes on MCAS day. 4+7, 14+38, 173+399, 4*14, 22-19, etc.
You could provide 2 scores — the score on the existing test, and the score on the extra 12 “just the basics” part.
For kids who do fine on the new Grade 3 “basics” math test, great. A teacher could focus on the more complex questions they got wrong.
For kids who failed the Grade 3 “basics” MCAS, though they need concrete intervention. (I think the average need is 100 hour dosage of tutoring). For them, put the same basics questions on a Grade 4 test. You could find if the intervention worked.
lightiris says
I only have experience with the middle school and high school English exams.
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christopher says
…is that while I agree the 10th grade exam is reasonable, the elementary level exams almost seem more difficult relative at least to where I personally would expect a lot of students to be.
lightiris says
By grade 3 each student should have acquired, through a targeted literacy program in their elementary schools, grade level reading proficiency. Many districts do not have targeted literacy programs, so their test scores reveal that. In the districts that have them, though, the MCAS results are generally excellent–as they should be.
ed-poon says
I recall seeing an 8th grade social studies MCAS many years ago (I think I was substitute teaching) and it had an essay question about the impact of McCullough v Maryland. Now, I am a lawyer and a history undergrad major who wrote a thesis on the Jacksonian era, so I would love to live in a world in which every eighth grader could discuss this decision, its context and its effects. And I absolutely think it should be a part of classroom instruction. But to include this on a statewide test where the primary endpoint is whether students are learning basic skills…. well, it just struck me as overkill.
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obroadhurst says
MCAS has always been, and shall always remain, a bad idea.
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paulsimmons says
Fluoride in the water supply.
obroadhurst says
At least CARE understood what MCAS was all about:
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mark-bail says
I opposed MCAS at the beginning, but in trying to develop an progressive educational view, a view that accomodates what the people (it’s not just policy-makers) want, I’ve come to accept it.
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lisag says
so I agree that cutting back the NCLB requirement from every year in grade 3 through 8 to just three grades (as we used to do in MA) would be a great step.
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christopher says
…though I prefer open-response to multiple choice. You’re correct about writing being a discreet skill. I struggled for a while in AP US History, not because I didn’t know my facts, but because my teacher wasn’t a big fan of my writing.
lisag says
I think there continues to be more concern and debate on this issue than meets the eye (or gets reported by the Globe). I get calls and emails from current and retired teachers and parents often. Among teachers and many parents dissatisfaction remains high. It’s just that politically there seems to have been virtually no space to discuss or move forward with sensible changes.
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jim-gosger says
There are a number of problems with MCAS and more specifically the graduation requirement.
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lisag says
I was going to give you a 6 rating, Jim, but that seemed too self-aggrandizing, given your title.
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joeltpatterson says
It should be adopted because it will tell teachers which kids can add/subtract/multiply one/two/three digit numbers.
And that’s useful info.
dcsurfer says
mark-bail says
educational reform. Period. Without MCAS, the state cannot hold schools “accountable.” Curriculum frameworks would have limited enforcibility. It would be impossible for charter proponents like the Globe editors to compare charter schools to public schools. Editorialists and politicians would have nothing to bemoan.
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amberpaw says
..and do worse on MCAS and there is a shortage of about 500 beds for homeless 18 year old high school students. See: Homeless in High School
tyler-oday says
its an ugly competition between states
amberpaw says
Seriously. And part time jobs doing the upkeep, cooking, etc. and paid internships.
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opus123 says
or at least the extent to which MCAS has become so pervasive. I’m curious if there are any teachers out there who defend the status quo. I’m fairly certain I’ve never met any teachers who think so.
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roarkarchitect says
or is it the teachers union that is opposed.
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lightiris says
And what it is isn’t particularly helpful, valuable, or meaningful in the any pedagogical sense. It’s window dressing, for the most part, and not very good window dressing at that.
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pablophil says
does not reflect what teachers think?
mark-bail says
reflects a kneejerk reaction to the MTA. It depends on what you mean by being against MCAS. The MTA supports mending, not ending, MCAS.
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roarkarchitect says
My feelings is teachers are professionals. But the MTA does everything in it’s power to make teachers day laborers and will try and break the MCAS system if they can.
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As someone who went through a suburban 1970’s high school and now has two kids in a suburban high school. I can see a huge improvement in the quality of instruction. I think the MCAS test is largely responsible for this.
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goldsteingonewild says
It would be interesting to see polling. Have you see any?
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mark-bail says
commend MCAS, not all math teachers. I can’t recall a teacher in another subject praising MCAS. Our biology teacher panned the test recently, and she teaches both freshman and AP Biology.
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lisag says
Here’s some information on teachers’ views of standardized testing from a 2009 Public Agenda survey:
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sabutai says
I think it’s a shame if it would take “really big, politically significant changes” to make the test fulfill its claims. I don’t really know how to categorize the following:
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mark-bail says
begins with the logistical limits of standards-based testing rather than question writing. There is simply not enough time to sample all of the content students are supposed to have learned.
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sabutai says
There’s no way to learn my curriculum in 160 days, much less test it in 90 minutes.