I am the Republican Candidate for State Representative in the Eighth Suffolk District. I think my nearly thirty years of experience in the private sector will better serve the people of my district and of the Commonwealth as our greatest challenges are jobs and the budget crisis created by the out of control spending of the last 3 years.
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bradmarston says
“Taxes and fees” only one of my three points. The other two were regulations and mandates so that is why it was not called “Taxes and fees” as you suggest.
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p>Legislating requires managing budgets and taking care of people. In the private sector, one has to manage revenues and expenses and take care of customers. I think if legislators spent more time thinking that way the public would be better served.
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p>Sorry about the “vague” talk but it is an 80 second video to get people thinking about the issues (which you obviously have) and not a “White Paper”/Policy Statement.
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p>You are factually incorrect about a lack of revenue causing our fiscal crisis. It is a spending crisis. State spending on core programs was $19.45 billion in FY 2007. In the first budget under Governor Patrick in FY 2008 it was $25.9 billion, a $6.5 billion/30% increase in one year.
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p>Overall, there has not been a cut in the budget. State directed spending of tax payer dollars has increased every year.
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p>In 2006 total spending (remember that nearly 45% of State Spending is off budget) was $45 Billion. 2007 – $48.9 Billion In 2008 – $50.8 Billion. 2009
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p>All my numbers are from http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=os…
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p>Those are the Statutory Basis Financial Reports put out by the Commonwealth.
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p>No I am not going to eliminate the “Department of Waste”.
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p>I would overturn the Pacheco Laws that deny private companies the ability to bid for government contracts.
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p>Cost to tax payers? $200 billion/year.
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p>I would eliminate the Bio-Tech Bailout bill.
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p>Cost to tax payers $100 billion a year.
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p>I would eliminate the Film Tax Credit.
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p>I would enroll all Medicaid recipients in the Massachusetts Managed Care Program.
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p>I would give Cities and Towns the ability to negotiate their own health and pension benefits (Just like the Commonwealth has).
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p>I would convert the State pension fund from a defined benefit plan to a defined contribution plan.
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p>All of the changes I outlined would save the taxpayers roughly $1.5 billion a year and not require a single cut to local aid, educational aid or a cut to safety net programs.
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p>Just a thought.
kirth says
“Private sector” enterprises all have one basic and overriding goal: make a profit. Everything they do, and every method they use, is controlled by that goal. Only things that contribute to making a profit are valued. Not helping the disadvantaged, not protecting the powerless, not educating the population, not anything that fails to contribute to profit. That does not even remotely align with the purposes of government.
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p>Successful businessmen are good at making money. That is not related to good government.
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p>Look at the results of the privatizing of government functions since Reagan. Show me how any of those functions are done better than they were before. Here’s an example: When I was in the Army, all Army facilities in a war zone were built by the Corps of Engineers. All of them. Army engineers are paid the same as all other soldiers. In the Iraq War of occupation, military facilities were and are built by private companies, most notably KBR/Halliburton. Look how that turned out. It’s not just the money.
dcsurfer says
Private sector enterprises are supposed to be self-supporting, including allowing the people that work at them to survive and want to keep working at them. Their overriding goal is usually to stay in business, even if it means the owner loses money sometimes. Often, their goal is to provide their service outstandingly and serve people.
kirth says
I am not thinking of criminal enterprises, but all for-profit ones. The stated goal of such enterprises may well be to serve people, but the impetus for making a profit is never absent, and is overpowering. Please give some examples of companies that stay in business without making a profit. I see where you said “the owner loses money sometimes,” and that is the usual case in the beginning of a corporation’s life. Those that continue to lose money disappear.
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p>I’ll help you out: Aaron Feuerstein gave up a ton of money in a losing effort to keep Malden Mills’ employees on the payroll after a disastrous fire. This is notable precisely because his selfless efforts are so unusual. He lost the company to creditors.
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p>Private-sector enterprises are supposed to self-support, as you say. The “allowing the people that work at them to survive” part is usually seen as irrelevant, and making it an actual goal of the company often results in some less-benevolent corporation taking it over – as in the case of Malden Mills – and putting a lot of those people out of work. That is the model that the “govern like a business” proponents actually want to apply.
bradmarston says
I recognize that you weren’t responding directly to me but I wanted to offer my 2 cents.
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p>You remarked about dcsurfer’s comment that private sector enterprises are supposed to self support. In terms of big business, I think a lot of the anger from both the left and right at the bailouts of GM and Chrysler was that they didn’t self support. Ford has as have many other auto makers. That anger is doubled at some Wall Street firms and banks that even when they don’t receive bailouts they do not “self support” because there business model is built on FDIC insurance of their deposits and cheap money from the Federal Reserve and the implicit guarantee of too big to fail. Don’t even get me started on Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSE’s) like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac or Sallie Mae.
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p>My original video was about creating jobs and that happens overwhelmingly in small to medium size businesses. Now my last employer was a smallish national restaurant chain; 200 units with about 12,000 employees. Technically a big business but very dedicated to it’s people and to it’s customers. At the management level we spent countless hours in meetings and at the unit level looking at how we could make the guest experience and employee experience better. Whenever an employee was under performing our first questions was always “What are we doing wrong?”
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p>I personally think that kind of model of “govern like a business” would be a good thing to bring to government. We monitored sales and costs on an hourly, per shift, daily, weekly basis and made adjustments. I understand that government can’t operate that way but we have to do better than putting programs in place, regardless of our ability to pay for them and never revisit them. There has to be a Common Sense, balanced approach to providing needed services as efficiently as possible.
somervilletom says
I appreciate your anecdote about your most recent employer. I agree that lessons from private enterprise can be valuable in government.
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p>Nevertheless, I fear you miss a fundamental difference: your employer existed to make money for its owners. Government exists to provide services for the public. I don’t doubt that your team worked hard to maximize “the guest experience” and the “employee experience” — this is because an enlightened management concluded that this is the best way to assure profitability. Surely your employer also shut down under-performing stores from time to time.
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p>No sane person argues against “common sense”, nor apple pie, nor the flag.
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p>The difficulty is that a government does not have the option of shutting down a non-performing store. Unless you’re George Bush talking about New Orleans, a government doesn’t have the option of closing Lawrence — people live there.
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p>This is, by the way, the fatal flaw of the free-market approach to health care. When the cost of repairing my treasured two-seater exceeds my ability to pay, I take it off the road. No sane parent will do the same for their seriously-ill child.
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p>The free-market supply-and-demand model assumes that it is possible to set a finite price for whatever resource is being bought and sold. This convenient model simply doesn’t work for government services (most famously, national defense) and health care.
bradmarston says
You claim that government doesn’t have the option of shutting down a non-performing store yet the government in Massachusetts government is shutting down services all the time. And they are doing so regardless of whether they are performing or not.
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p>Patrick is furloughing DDS employees despite the fact that they are 100% paid for by the US government.
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p>They are shutting down homeless shelters, veterans service centers, the list goes on and on.
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p>Yet we still pay legislators to walk to work.
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p>We keep on hiring staff at $100,000+ a year.
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p>We passed Romney Care to pay for health insurance for all but still charge businesses $33.60 per employee to pay their healthcare costs when they become unemployed. Oops. But we don’t actually use that money for their health care costs. It gets transferred to the general fund.
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p>I am not arguing that we don’t need government. We actually ask government to do some important things. We need a GOOD government to do them.
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p>And as you say…no “sane person” would suggest that we have a good government in Massachusetts.
somervilletom says
You “spent countless hours in meetings” in a largish restaurant operation, yet you seem to draw no distinction between laying off employees and closing a store.
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p>Perhaps my metaphor was unclear. Government does not have the option of shutting down a city or town. That’s what I meant by “shutting a store”.
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p>You highlight examples of areas where the state is cutting back services and laying off employees. Suppose we stipulate that these cuts are bad (I don’t know, tracking budgets like this is a full-time job).
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p>How do you propose to pay for them, given your complaints about taxes and your professed desire to cut them further? The state is looking at a three billion dollar shortfall.
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p>You’d need to fill Fenway Park with a standing-room-only crowd of about 30,000 “$100,000+” staffers in order to offset that deficit. I simply don’t see how your numbers work.
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p>I’d like you to enumerate your view of the three MOST IMPORTANT THINGS you feel our government should do. For each of those areas, I’d like you to propose your view of what we should ask government to do during your term of office, and how you propose to fund them.
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p>As a conversation-starter, I present my own top three. I voted for Governor Patrick because he claimed the same top three:
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kirth says
I agree that it’s a bad idea to never revisit programs. New programs especially should be monitored carefully to determine whether they are having the intended effect, and to identify unintended effects. From where I sit, though, it looks like the Govern Like A Business crowd wants to revisit every government program. And by “revisit” I mean cut funding for. They are apparently unfazed by the evidence that some of these programs return far more than they cost, and have always done so. Libraries do not generate revenues, so they become a target. Never mind that they contribute to an educated populace, which is an enormously valuable asset. Public parks likewise cost money, and are vulnerable to the business-minded. The attempts to privatize Social Security are a glaring example of the problem.
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p>I think the government programs that could benefit from a business-style approach comprise a very small subset of the total, but business-minded politicians don’t limit their efforts to that subset. Again – the ability to make money, which is the hallmark of the successful businessman, has little or no relevance to government. The metrics used to evaluate business performance should not be applied to government. That is not to say that efficiency is not a desirable and important goal in choosing and implementing government programs. The problem is that the businessman-politician doesn’t measure secondary returns like an educated populace, or the secondary costs of something like privatizing Social Security.
lynne says
And kudos for sticking around for a conversation.
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p>But there is a fundamental difference between the public and private – businesses have the flexibility to contract when the going gets rough. It hurts and they make less money when they do it, but they can do it. In the worst times, government is actually more strained trying to deliver services, because there are more vulnerable people needing the services, therefore contracting government is ludicrous, unless you want to make a compelling argument that it’s doing jobs and running services it shouldn’t.
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p>That can only mean one of two things: Either you increase your spending to keep pace with both demand, and costs, or else you start cutting programs.
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p>Funny, though, when it gets down to brass tacks and you ask a Republican what, exactly, they would cut…schools? homelessness services? the justice system or police? etc, they sputter and can’t answer. At least, not answer in enough of large terms to actually make a dent in the real budget. (Anyone can find a few line perhaps-superfluous items here and there that are, in real terms, peanuts compared to the budget as a whole.) They want to magically fund services while all the while stating we need to cut revenues.
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p>And you failed to address the point KBush made, which is that overall, generally and in total, we have seen some serious cuts to revenues, between some of the corporate breaks, and previously, the loopholes, and the income tax rollback and other things (like the real world value of the gas tax which has not moved for almost 2 decades), over the last decade or more, while our costs went up, and we have ignored our infrastructure to the point where now, it’s going to cost way more to fix it up and replace aging bridges, buildings and the like. If we’d kept up maintenance all along we’d be better off, but unfortunately past administrations were short sighted.
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p>Now, Romney hid some of these structural deficits, by raising fees. He then slashed local aid and Chapter 70, a devastating blow that we’re still trying to recover from.
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p>What the state has had is a structural revenue problem, and what is happening right now is that this is exasperated by the temporary but deep revenue problems a downturn has, right at the time government is most needed. Your proposals will NOT address this.
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p>I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but I assume it’s the bio-tech initiatives under Patrick. Investing and enticing whole industries is called creating jobs for Massachusetts workers. I would not be for cutting this initiative, unless someone could prove to me that they are failing. As far as I can see, the initiatives for industries (green, biotech, etc) are doing much of what they proposed to do. We need long term thinking, long term development of the next generation’s industries of importance, in order to maintain the gosh darn decent standard of living we enjoy. (Trust me, I’m from NH, I can see the difference between the two states quite clearly.)
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p>I’m actually convince-able on this point, since I’m not sure what good we’re getting out of it. Except that maybe without it, we get about the same amount of revenues, since it’s the enticements that bring the big film co’s here, however, I am not sure if we make out ahead on this one or not. I do know, however, that Lowell was used in two recent film shoots (“This Side of the Truth” and “The Fighter”) that it does do something to a community…a sense of pride, and quite a number of local businesses getting a piece of the pie, so I’m of two minds on this incentive. Still, cutting it would be peanuts. It won’t come anywhere near to solving anything about our budget. It’s not a structural solution.
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p>Not sure what you are talking about here, I can’t even find such a thing on Google, do you mean the Commonwealth Care, which is private insurance subsidized for low income citizens? I’m not even sure if we are allowed to do such a thing, but that would be dumb. Medicaid receives federal funding and there are restrictions. Blow those, and you lose the funding.
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I agree with this, I was just speaking to our city manager about this. There is already some flexibility with this regarding retired workers, forcing them to go onto Meidcare and use the state bennies as a supplement, saving the city money (though 90% of our local public retirees do it anyway, so it won’t be mind blowing money recovered there, really, but only make our budget more predictable for retiree liabilities).
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nopolitician says
Don’t communities already have the ability to negotiate health care benefits with their workers? What do you mean by this?
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p>I can agree with you on the film tax credit. It seems like a waste of money and I don’t hear too many people happy with it.
conseph says
The issue revolves around plan design and the ability to make changes in plan design without having to enter into collective bargaining negotiations. The easiest example of what this is a change in the copayment amount from $10 to $20 per office visit. The Commonwealth does not need to negotiate this change with participants in the GIC while municipalities would have to negotiate and achieve agreement with each of its collective bargain units.
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p>The Commonwealth has exempted itself from the requirements to negotiate changes in plan design while keeping the same requirement in place for the Commonwealth’s municipalities. The Mass Municipal Association has supported a bill filed by Rep. Kulik (H. 2509) which would provide this same exemption to municipalities.
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p>MMA estimates that this change could be worth $75 – $100 million annually for the municipalities, including over $12 million annually for Boston.
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p>With the difficult financial decisions facing far too many of our municipalities, this bill asks that they be given the same flexibility and ability to make change as the Commonwealth has given itself. This is real money that could help many of our struggling communities and deserves serious consideration, in my opinion, passage.
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p>MMA summary is here – http://www.mma.org/passplandes…
bradmarston says
You said it better than I.
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The Commonwealth’s GIC provides high quality health care at lower cost than most of Massachusetts’ cities and towns. Whereas the state moved all its employees (as well as certain other agencies) into the plan unilaterally, cities and towns are required to get the approval of 70% of their unionized public employees before making the switch.
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p>This is one of the reasons that on 17 of the 351 cities and towns have been able to make the change.
nopolitician says
How does that translate to “I would give Cities and Towns the ability to negotiate their own health and pension benefits (Just like the Commonwealth has).”?
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p>How can you use the word “negotiate” there? Sounds like you’re looking to give cities and towns the ability to take health benefits out of collective bargaining so that cities and towns can change health care benefits without negotiating with unions. Why don’t you just come out and say that instead of using the word “negotiate” in your plank? Because what you’re proposing is the exact opposite of negotiating.
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p>How does that translate to saving money in the state budget, by the way? And how does switching to a defined contribution pension system save money immediately?
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p>Can you do your math to get to $1.5 billion again? I couldn’t make your numbers add up.
bradmarston says
Yes. It is not a negotiation. Cities and towns should have the same power to set their health care coverage with their unions that the state does.
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p>As to how it would save the State money, if cities and towns needed less money to balance their budgets then they would need less local aid.
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p>As to the $1.5 billion in savings I’ll post it as part of the forum related to our next video…”It’s the spending stupid.”
sabutai says
Despite others’ insistence, communities currently have this ability. What they don’t have, and some people want, is for these communities to unilaterally impel town employees to accept a benefit cut without entering into bargaining. Basically, they want an okay to violate labor law. Towns can certainly work with employees to go into the GIC through the bargaining process.
bradmarston says
The state has that unilateral right. It has saved taxpayers millions of dollars. Are you suggesting that the state give up that power?
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p>If Obama et al can change the rules on national health care with 51 votes why shouldn’t cities and towns in Massachusetts have the same ability?
sabutai says
Because a certain move could save money, it should trump established law? If the 70% threshold is too high — and I agree — let’s change the law to reflect that.
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p>I think 51% is a sensible level for health care reform as well as entering (and leaving) the GIC. What do you think?
sabutai says
I appreciate your willingness to hold an extended conversation on likely unfriendly turf…I’ve been impressed. That said, I would appreciate an answer to the question you brought up:
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bradmarston says
Lynne,
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p>I am not suggesting we necessarily level fund. I think a good starting baseline would be inflation plus population growth.
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p>The opposite of that argument would therefore be that in the best economic times there are less vulnerable people needing services and therefore government should shrink. Unfortunately, that never happens. And again, the $6 billion increase in the 2008 FY budget was before the effects of the economic downturn was felt.
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p>The ~ $1 billion drop in projected tax revenues from FY2009 to FY2010 does not account for the estimated $3 billion structural shortfall for 2010.
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p>Regarding the Bio Tech Initiative, I would argue that if we had a more transparent and consistent regulatory policy the state wouldn’t need to offer tax credits to companies to do what Kirth says above is the only thing a company wants to do anyway, ie make a profit. I also question the state’s ability to pick economic winners and losers and wonder why the state should be favoring one industry over another.
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p>As for the film tax credit, while there is indeed some economic benefit to local businesses and perhaps community pride, the first question has to be, does the tax credit pay for itself. Is it a net economic benefit to the state and the citizens? The answer is clearly no. Most of the benefit goes to out of state production companies, many of whom merely sell the tax credit back to the state. If elected I would offer a bill to rescind the film tax credit and replace it with a tax credit to home and residential property owners who get energy audits and then upgrade their insulation and energy efficiency of their buildings.
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p>This would reduce our carbon footprint by reducing energy needs and thereby lowering energy costs for individuals and families. The renovations and upgrades would be primarily done by local contractors thereby increasing employment in the devastated construction trades. A win-win-win.
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p>As for enrolling Medicaid recipients in the state’s managed care program. (here is the link http://www.massresources.org/p… ) it is currently optional. If made mandatory for Medicaid and CHIP recipients, it is estimated it would save $75 million per year.
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p>Finally, as the video is about jobs, I think it is important to remember that from 1998 to 2007, again before the latest economic downturn, there was not a single net new private sector job created in Massachusetts. If we had simply matched the national average of 13% over the same period, there would have been roughly 400,000 more people employed. That would have generated a great deal of income, sales and other tax revenues for the state.
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bradmarston says
I am not wrongo as I said in my comment no NET new jobs.
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2) Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Perchance we would have seen higher population growth if we had greater employment opportunities.
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stomv says
I read for it twice, somehow missed it twice. My mistake and apologies — you wrote what you meant.
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p>1. Zero unemployment isn’t a good state to be in either. A little unemployment is essential. How much is a little? Well, full employment, a number that gets manipulated by economists from time to time.
2. A larger (employed) population does mean a bigger tax base — but it (not perchance) also means a bigger demand on government services. It also assumes that the citizens of Massachusetts want population growth, a pretty big assumption in my opinion. So, these 400,000 jobs: are they jobs which result in a net (!) increase in gov’t revenue or a net loss? After all, there are plenty of terrible jobs where the person consumes more government than that person pays for with taxes despite working 40 hours a week. Would 400,000 more of these people make the Commonwealth a better place? That’s not so clear.
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p>Banging on the drum of jobs is lame. We need good jobs. You haven’t differentiated.
bradmarston says
Okay to someone who has a Masters degree and can only find work at McDonalds that would be a bad job. The same job to a 16 year old might seem like a good job.
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kbusch says
At least the current Boston Business Journal has two promising articles about the bio-tech industry in our state. On about its ability to attract VC funding. The other, titled “Easterd ho”, page 32, about Massachusetts’ ability to lure executives from the West. (p. 32)
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p>Generally, there is an advantage to trying to get a concentration of industries co-located. It attracts talent to the area. Even if competitors, companies in the same industry will need similar services and so ancillary businesses grow along side them.
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tamoroso says
First, let me add my voice to those who say: Welcome. I disagree with many of your positions and initiatives, but I am very glad to see you here. I think it displays an element of courage not common among politicians in general, on either side. Well done you.
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p>The rest has been better covered by others. Government cannot contract in a recession; often, they need to expand, because more people need the services only government can supply (because business is not supplying them with paychecks, as they would ordinarily do), so a rising (or really, flat) budget is not the evidence of Bad Management you claim. Bio-Tech Bailout? Help me understand what you’re talking about better; I may agree with you, as some biotech firms are large enough that they neither need or deserve any kind of tax break. Health care for cities and towns? Right there with you; I personally think they should all be in the GIC, and be done with it. Yes, some people will lose some benefits and pay higher costs; everyone else is faced with the same problem, I don’t see why city and town employees are somehow exempt from that, sorry. Converting the state pension fund has some merit; I’d be willing to consider it, but I’d like some details.
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nopolitician says
From what I’ve read, the cost of this credit is pretty steep ($75-100 million per year), and the state isn’t getting that many permanent jobs from it nor any tax revenue benefit from it. Anyone have any different perspectives on it?
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roarkarchitect says
is a blatant giveaway. We give, yes give 25% of any in state expense of a film company. Expenses include salaries of stars, teamsters or materials.
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p>People think it’s a good idea because it’s sort of cool. How about taking the money given to the film companies and not increasing the sale tax so we don’t kill the retail businesses on the NH border.
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edgarthearmenian says
this “Hollywood East” scam, are you not? The state of Michigan is being ripped off more than we are and the governor there is trying to get rid of the subsidy.Try this link, entitled “Race to the Bottom” http://www.chicagoreader.com/c… As a South Shore resident I find it especially humorous that both Weymouth and Plymouth residents are falling for the movie studio cons; supposedly the Hollywood studios want to spend millions at both the old airbase in Weymouth and in Plymouth. All they need is a little local support in order to get the necessary millions in bank loans. Ah, yes.
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bradmarston says
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bradmarston says
Democrats have completely controlled the Massachusetts government for the last three years.
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huh says
…what you bring to the table is you’re not a Democrat? Not terribly compelling.
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bradmarston says
I believe there is dollar limit on the contracts that private companies can bid on.
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bradmarston says
Balanced government is better government. I am certainly not laying all of this at the feet of the Patrick administration. He has had little or no better luck sustaining his vetoes than his four Republican predecessors. Having a Republican Governor and a legislature controlled 90% by the Democrats is not balanced governor.
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bradmarston says
As I have mentioned above, I have offered specific proposals that would save $1.5 billion without cutting local aid or safety net services. Many of these same proposals were offered as amendments by Republican legislators and they were routinely voted down on virtually party line votes.
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johnd says
A lot of times the editors will welcome candidates to BMG when they post directly and either announce their candidacy or make an initial statement on their campaigns… when they are Democrats!
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huh says
Did anybody bother to tell them that?
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kathy says
There were folks that were hopeful, yes, but most were skeptical that she could pull it off since Brown had momentum in the last two weeks of the election.
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kbusch says
and it’s not relevant here.
lynne says
Tough questions! Next we’ll all be demanding RESULTS!
bradmarston says
Actually the editors here have been very welcoming just as I was very clear that I was a Republican Candidate when I requested to post here.
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johnd says
See you at the convention in Worcester! I’ll come introduce myself. I was glad David promoted this page too (after my comments were made).
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kbusch says
And no taunting either.
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bradmarston says
Thanks KBusch. I guess people can taunt or insult me if they want. I simply won’t respond. I look forward to reasoned conversation. As I have said before, I am gratified by the reception I have received here.
johnd says
There are about four BMGers who post negative comments (the taunting one is quite popular) whenever I post anything. I could post almost anything and I will get the obligatory “Stop taunting” blah blah blah type of thing from them. Read a few of my comments and then look for the same group who will try to drag down my comments.
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kbusch says
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It’s on government directed spending of our money. There’s actually no such thing as Government Spending.
stomv says
Writing that “There’s actually no such thing as Government Spending” is akin to writing that there’s actually no such thing as government.
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Please. The government IS the people? I doubt many people feel that way.
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johnd says
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but unfortunately too often the case on BMG.
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liveandletlive says
is to convince corporations like National Grid, Bank of America, Walmart, Blue Cross/Blue Shield and a host of other million/billion dollar profit mongers to lose their greedy grip on their exhorbitant profits so they might increase wages and lower prices. This will flood the middle/working class with discretionary dollars to be spent locally which will create the need for more small businesses.
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bradmarston says
Actually 70% of all private sector job growth comes from small to medium sized businesses.
stomv says
What the hell does that mean?
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bradmarston says
The Bureau of Labor Statistics http://www.bls.gov defines a business as small or medium sized if it has 500 employees or less.
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liveandletlive says
I am anti-greed and anti-extortion. Capitalism will only work if there is demand for products. Greed and extortion of middle/working class discretionary dollars by overcharging for basic needs is removing demand for products from the equation.
Supply and demand won’t work without demand. There is no need for new businesses because no one can afford to buy anything. Corporations are going to eat their own dust pretty soon.
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* pay a living wage
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* have low turnover
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liveandletlive says
and obviously you don’t have a clue what I just said.
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As soon the corporate oinkers from these categories tame their profits by lowering prices then the middle/working class will have more money to spend on discretionary items, thereby creating a demand for small businesses.
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somervilletom says
I appreciate your candor and forthrightness in not only offering your video, but even more significantly in actually engaging in the exchanges that have followed.
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bradmarston says
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ray-m says
According to CNBC http://www.cnbc.com/id/31765926
Massachusetts is rated 8th in the country for 2009
roarkarchitect says
Tax Institute has Massachusetts as 36 – it really all depends on how you weight the data.
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somervilletom says
Thank you for offering this link. I call your attention to the map published on the site you offer.
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kirth says
that NH is one of those “top ten” business-friendly states. That must be the explanation for the hordes of MA residents who make their daily commute northward, to their high-paying jobs in Manchester and Concord, while the southbound sides of the highways remain relatively empty in the morning. (Feel free to jump in here with an anecdote about your golfing buddy moving his company from NH to MA; that will be the exception that proves the rule.) After all, it would be foolish for workers from Tax-Free New Hampshire to go to work in MA, thus incurring state income taxes.
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roarkarchitect says
If I was starting a biotech company – I would site in Cambridge, a manufacturing company New Hampshire. While it’s nice to have a lot of companies filled with people with PHD’s, its not realistic. The rest of the world operates with staff who haven’t finished high school – or have limited college. A manufacturing environment offers better wages with better benefits for those with less academic skills. Don’t assume a state with 5M+ people are all going to have MS and PHD’s.
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While Montana is not probably going to become an economic powerhouse look at #9 Washington State (AKA Microsoft) and a now a friend of mine business who moved from California #46.
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somervilletom says
You title your comment “Cherry Picking Data”, and then offer MICROSOFT as an example of why Washington State is great? Yes, Washington State has Microsoft. So what. Yes, your friend moved his business from California to Washington State. So what.
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roarkarchitect says
“You title your comment “Cherry Picking Data”, and then offer MICROSOFT as an example of why Washington State is great? Yes, Washington State has Microsoft. So what. Yes, your friend moved his business from California to Washington State. So what.”
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Businesses in “the poor business climate in California” have run circles around the states you hold up as “the best” — not to mention Massachusetts. How many world-class companies are headquartered in New Hampshire?
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roarkarchitect says
I think is a good example. Obviously Bill Gates started the company, not because of the high tech industry in the area but I assume because that’s where he is from.
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somervilletom says
None of Digital, Polaroid, EG&G, Bose or Wang were located in Boston because of the local taxes or regulations. As you observed, most of those started here because MIT and Harvard are here. None of those companies folded because the taxes were too high or regulations too severe.
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p>Yes, we need to fix our very broken Massachusetts business climate. Further gutting local government is NOT the right answer.
huh says
That speaks more to the conservatism of the Boston area VCs than anything else. There are three main tech centers in the this country: Silicon Valley, Boston, and Austin (not Seattle). Of the three, Boston VCs have a rep for being the least visionary. They want another EMC, but most likely wouldn’t have funded them in the first place. Which is why you end up working with Bay Area VCs, who want you to be in the Bay Area.
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p>As you say, it has nothing to do with the tax climate or cost of living. CA is worse across the board.
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p>Another interesting discussion is the Globe Business Section “kiss of death.” Boston just doesn’t do entrepreneur well.
somervilletom says
The best way to improve the business climate of Massachusetts is to encourage new ways of funding businesses in Massachusetts. The venture capital model is badly broken, especially for internet-based “long-tail” startups. In particular, the classic approach — with its focus on an “exit strategy” — puts investors and company executives on opposites sides of an adversarial table. Actions that maximize a company’s market valuation are often in conflict with actions that maximize its sustainable profitability.
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p>You’re dead-on when you characterize the Boston-area investment community as “conservative”. Mitt Romney and Bain come to mind.
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p>The relentless focus on slashing taxes, regulation, and government exemplifies counter-productive government policy.
roarkarchitect says
I’m in the 5 to 100 employee manufacturing world. You have your perspective, and given the potential returns of some of these firms taxes don’t make a huge difference. Hey, we agree.
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p>The small firms in this state (and others) don’t have the huge profit margins and are typically funded out of their owners pocket. They grow internally (maybe the wrong word) but aren’t funded by VC, but by their owners. Taxes make a difference for them. If they do borrow money, they have to pay it back and are typically personally on the hook for it.
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p>For example, I’ve read an accounting study (which I have to find again) looking at an average size manufacturing firm 5M in gross revenue and applied expenses to 4 different states – NY/CT/MA and NH. The business lost money in NY, broke even in CT made a little bit of money in Massachusetts and was profitable in NH. So either the business moves or goes out of business, but I want the business to stay here.
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p>Massachusetts IS an expensive state to do business in, and we aren’t gutting the state government. But the state government needs to be run somewhat efficiently and not go tax crazy. The state doesn’t have it’s priorities correct and the pension system is going to bankrupt us all.
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somervilletom says
When you write “Massachusetts has one of the worst rated business climates in the country”, I wonder if you can be more specific about what you mean — I’d like to be able to see the five or ten best-rated business climates, and the five or ten other worst-rated business climates.
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p>Some years ago (in the eighties, as I recall), Fortune magazine began publishing its list of the “best places to live” in America. Pittsburgh, PA and Nashua, NH ranked in the top ten. With all due respect to residents of each, I lived in Pittsburgh during the early seventies while I went to school, and again for one year in 1982 when I joined a hot technology startup (that relocated to Massachusetts while I was there). I lived at the MA border, adjoining Nashua, for a decade. I knew Pittsburgh and I knew Nashua. However they did it, for the two data points that I knew, Fortune got it very wrong. The criteria used by Fortune were, rightly or wrongly, very different from my own, as evidenced by these two cites. I can think of dozens — probably even hundreds — of towns superior to each. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Portsmouth NH was and is a far better place to live than Nashua. As is Keene, Peterboro, and Milford. Manchester is very livable, far more so than Nashua. In fact, whether Fortune admits it or not, the only reason to chose Nashua over those others is if you work in Massachusetts and have to commute every day.
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p>Even if we accept your observations, I still don’t see how your proposals differ in any substantive way from the GOP mantra we’ve heard for decades.
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p>I’ve written elsewhere here that a relatively modest increase in the tax rate of inter-generational wealth transfers for residents whose non-home net worth exceeds twenty million dollars is more than enough to fund the infrastructure improvements needed to jumpstart our local economy.
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p>Please reread that carefully. We’re talking about a modest increase in estate and gift taxes. The individuals we are discussing have non-home estates in excess of twenty million dollars. That’s non-home estates — we’re not talking land-poor individuals whose “wealth” is concentrated in artificially-inflated inherited real estate. Even in today’s climate, twenty million dollars is a lot to pass on. Many of the estates in question are ten or one hundred times that. Several (more than a dozen) are in excess of one billion dollars. It doesn’t take very many billion-dollar-plus estates, and it doesn’t take more than a few percentage points on those, to add up to a significant amount of new tax revenue. Nobody is going to lose homes, starve, or lose health care as a result of this much-needed increase in tax revenue. We’re talking about a handful of people, and we’re talking about a handful of people who are far more able to pay these needed tax increases than, for example, mom and pop liquor store owners on the MA/NH border. These wealthy individuals are far more able to pay than the army of unemployment recipients who, even though unemployed and struggling to keep homes for their families and health care for their children, still pay income taxes on their meager unemployment benefits.
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p>Effective government does cost money. Somebody has to pay. In my view, fairness dictates that good tax policy relies relatively more on those who are most able to pay and relatively less on those who are least able to pay.
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p>In summary, here’s what I think we need to enumerate:
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roarkarchitect says
this is just one of many studies.
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p>http://www.taxfoundation.org/t…
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p>We do not want to be on the bottom.
somervilletom says
Did you mean to offer a different link?
somervilletom says
Thanks for the kind words.
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p>Would that be a paid position (as economic advisor)? 🙂
ray-m says
During the 1981 tax cuts of the Reagan Admin. we heard dropping the top marginal tax rate to 50% from 71% would stimulate the economy.
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p>Today we stand at 35%, but yet we are still in a recession. Property taxes are higher and state taxes are higher today because of the downfall of federal assistance to the states ,which trickled down to a higher tax burden by all the municipalities.
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p>The fall of Federal assistance was directly due to the top marginl tax rate being cut.
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p>If you want real economic growth here in the commonwealth we need to ensure good pay for employees. That would enhance and grow demand thus creating jobs.
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p>Raise the top marginal taxes back up to 40%, increase federal assistance to the states and the state will increase assistance to the towns and cities. At that point property taxes would hopefully go down, at least I would push for that. That move would free up even more dollars into the private sector and create more jobs.
af says
I wonder if those talking points came on a laminated card?
ray-m says
Massachusetts ranks 1 in education which is a direct result in taxation investment in our public school system and state university system.
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p>We rank 17th out of 50 in regards to business friendliness
which is described below
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p>Regulation and litigation are the bane of business. Sure, some of each is inevitable. But we graded the states on the perceived “friendliness” of their legal and regulatory frameworks to business.
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p>Massachusetts ranks 26th out of 50 in regards to workforce which is decribed below
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p>Many states point with great pride to the quality and availability of their workers, as well as government-sponsored programs to train them. We rated states based on the education level of their workforce, as well as the numbers of available workers. We also considered union membership. While organized labor contends that a union workforce is a quality workforce, that argument, more often than not, doesn’t resonate with business. We also looked at the relative success of each state’s worker training programs in placing their participants in jobs.
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p>The implications of low taxation have a detrimental effect on the overall ranking.
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p>Look at the overall ranking of Nevada
47th overall but according to tax foundation they rank 4th in the country.
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p>they are 49th for education Massachusetts is #1
20th for business friendliness, Massachusetts is 17th
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p>they are better than massachusetts in workforce 18th while Massachusetts is 26th
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p>Nevada is 49th for economy massachusetts is 12th
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p>A solid economy is good for business. So is a diverse economy, with access to the biggest players in a variety of industries. We looked at basic indicators of economic health and growth. We also gave credit to states based on the number of major corporations located there.
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p>Taxation may be higher in Massachusetts, but it is an investment in our state.
seascraper says
I don’t understand what spending has to do with it. People wanted all these things, universal health, special ed, etc. Please focus on growth, across the board growth that leads to higher wages and salaries, so we can afford the social spending.
proudlib says
Look at the ridiculous banter regarding what is and what isn’t a “good job.” For someone with an MBA who has a mortgage, or children to feed, a job at McDonald’s may be the only thing preventing them from having their house foreclosed. This intellectual blather with this Repub candidate misses the tenor of anger that exists within a majority of the voting public. People are angry, scared and unsure as to whether they can provide themselves and their families a decent quality of life. And here’s some of my fellow progressives lecturing on public policy as if in a classroom, when the reality is that public policies affect real people and real families and have real consequences. Repub candidates like Marston can appeal to the vast majority of those who are scared and nervous about the economy and what it means to them and their families. Easy soundbites, as Scott Brown proved, can sway a public to vote for a phony. Your philosophical blather is going to talk the Dem party into defeat this November unless we can show the public that we’re creating jobs for them and their families. Tsk tsking the Repubs while avoiding putting people to work — in jobs, any jobs that allow them to provide some financial betterment for themselves and their families — is a political strategy guaranteed to elect Republicans. Stop the rhetoric and support the governor and Legislature in their job-creation initiatives. Or get used to a new governor — and Repub supporters and ideologes throughout the executive branch and state agencies — and many more Repubs in our Legislature.
johnd says
November will be an interesting month for MA and the country.
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p>Great comments.
shiltone says
…and my nearly thirty years of eating chicken will better qualify me to guard the henhouse.