If this is the biggest lie in the history of the earth, then we humans are a race of honest beings.
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p>Three things about the Patrick campaign’s talk about taxes in 2006:
We just had the biggest recession since the Great Depression. You’ve maybe noticed? As a result, revenues are down everywhere and the state, which was going to provide help for communities, has even more services of its own to provide. That affects every kind of financing.
To his credit, in 2006, Patrick wasn’t promising big cuts in services or the kind of fantasy savings from waste that Republicans run on. His campaign suggested we need to reorganize how state financing works.
The legislature has been much slower than progressives expected in getting that moving. For example, some eminently reasonable tax reforms just could not get through the legislature.
I’ve always thought the program would run in the form: 1. Make the existing tax laws more rational. 2. Make state government more transparent and root out waste and duplication. 3. Shift the tax burden toward more progressive sources and away from things like property tax and sales tax.
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p>Getting that program to work requires a huge amount of political capital.
johnny-reasonsays
Where is my property tax cut?
kbuschsays
He said even if we cannot achieve certain goals, we can still work toward them. Listening to that, I took away the idea that his program might not be accomplished during one term.
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p>Certainly, in the excitement of the campaign of 2006, I thought more things were possible than turned out to be.
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p>So where’s the property tax cut?
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p>Well, what have you done to advance that 3 part program?
johnny-reasonsays
I’m voting for the other guy in November so that’s what I have done (or plan on doing) to advance the plan. He’s a disaster and a liar.
kbuschsays
The other guy is a disaster and a liar.
christophersays
…just as soon as you identify which schools, libraries, police, and fire stations in your town you’re willing to close. (You do realize your comment above sounds like a two-year-old’s tantrum, right?)
johnny-reasonsays
Those right wingers at the Globe think Deval NEVER had a chance at delivering on his 2006 promise to cut real estate taxes. The question is what else is he telling you that is a lie?
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Budget specialists say the recession made it nearly impossible for the governor to cut taxes without severely compromising his goal of preserving core services. But they say Patrick’s initial promise to reduce property taxes might have been impossible even in a strong economy, because it would have required the state to deliver a massive influx of hundreds of millions of dollars in additional aid to cities and towns.
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p>So even in a STRONG economy the Governor had NO SHOT at delivering on his campaign promise.
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p>Why should he now be believed? Is he a liar or incompetent?
Do you always read “might have been impossible” as “had no shot,” or only when it’s a Democrat’s promise?
johnny-reasonsays
But they say Patrick’s initial promise to reduce property taxes might have been impossible even in a strong economy, because it would have required the state to deliver a massive influx of hundreds of millions of dollars in additional aid to cities and towns.
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p>Key word – MASSIVE
kirthsays
MIGHT
johnny-reasonsays
Recently on the Howie Carr program Deval said that it was still his intention to deliver a property tax cut to the taxpayers of the Commonwealth.
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p>Key Word – Denial
kbuschsays
Possibly over-eager Patrick enthusiasts in 2006 suggested that Patrick could shift the burden off property taxes and onto other, more progressive forms of taxation. We over-eager ones thought that, with a charismatic governor and an overwhelmingly Democratic legislature, many things were possible.
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p>Instead, the Patrick Administration showed it was not so expert at politics once it got into office and the legislature showed that its habit of slowing change under 16 years of Republican Administration was deeply ingrained.
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p>So, yes, possibly, some Patrick supporters honestly felt we’d do something like raise income taxes, lower property taxes, and make government more transparent and efficient. All that in one year.
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p>I admit to having been an over-eager Patrick enthusiast myself.
This is nothing like the dishonesty surrounding the Iraq invasion, the death panel accusation against HCR, or the bailout distortions about financial reform.
kbusch says
If this is the biggest lie in the history of the earth, then we humans are a race of honest beings.
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p>Three things about the Patrick campaign’s talk about taxes in 2006:
I’ve always thought the program would run in the form: 1. Make the existing tax laws more rational. 2. Make state government more transparent and root out waste and duplication. 3. Shift the tax burden toward more progressive sources and away from things like property tax and sales tax.
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p>Getting that program to work requires a huge amount of political capital.
johnny-reason says
Where is my property tax cut?
kbusch says
He said even if we cannot achieve certain goals, we can still work toward them. Listening to that, I took away the idea that his program might not be accomplished during one term.
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p>Certainly, in the excitement of the campaign of 2006, I thought more things were possible than turned out to be.
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p>So where’s the property tax cut?
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p>Well, what have you done to advance that 3 part program?
johnny-reason says
I’m voting for the other guy in November so that’s what I have done (or plan on doing) to advance the plan. He’s a disaster and a liar.
kbusch says
The other guy is a disaster and a liar.
christopher says
…just as soon as you identify which schools, libraries, police, and fire stations in your town you’re willing to close. (You do realize your comment above sounds like a two-year-old’s tantrum, right?)
johnny-reason says
Those right wingers at the Globe think Deval NEVER had a chance at delivering on his 2006 promise to cut real estate taxes. The question is what else is he telling you that is a lie?
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p>So even in a STRONG economy the Governor had NO SHOT at delivering on his campaign promise.
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p>Why should he now be believed? Is he a liar or incompetent?
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p>http://www.boston.com/news/loc…
kirth says
Do you always read “might have been impossible” as “had no shot,” or only when it’s a Democrat’s promise?
johnny-reason says
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p>Key word – MASSIVE
kirth says
MIGHT
johnny-reason says
Recently on the Howie Carr program Deval said that it was still his intention to deliver a property tax cut to the taxpayers of the Commonwealth.
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p>Key Word – Denial
kbusch says
Possibly over-eager Patrick enthusiasts in 2006 suggested that Patrick could shift the burden off property taxes and onto other, more progressive forms of taxation. We over-eager ones thought that, with a charismatic governor and an overwhelmingly Democratic legislature, many things were possible.
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p>Instead, the Patrick Administration showed it was not so expert at politics once it got into office and the legislature showed that its habit of slowing change under 16 years of Republican Administration was deeply ingrained.
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p>So, yes, possibly, some Patrick supporters honestly felt we’d do something like raise income taxes, lower property taxes, and make government more transparent and efficient. All that in one year.
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p>I admit to having been an over-eager Patrick enthusiast myself.
This is nothing like the dishonesty surrounding the Iraq invasion, the death panel accusation against HCR, or the bailout distortions about financial reform.