I received this today and I thought it was a good reminder of what the President HAS done, even if it’s just changes in tone at times.
I’ve been among those critical of late. I’d be able to live with the substance of a lot of his achievements (and they ARE achievements), if I didn’t see so much pre-compromise. However, slow and steady does sometimes win the race.
Please share widely!
jconway says
Historians will look back at this period in history and remark about how this was one of the most productive Congresses in history, especially compared with what immediately followed it. I think a lot of the lefts frustration is partially justified, Obama underestimated the fact that Republicans would be partisan and now want to help him, he underestimated the strength of resistance in his own caucus, and he failed to recognize the need to be decisive and lead and not to be an aloof delegator. But a lot of the criticisms are unfair in my opinion. This is politics people, we had a caucus that had a majority due to its centrist and conservative members and they had to be reckoned with. We have a country that is still not with us on a host of issues and scared to death of debt and reluctant to pay more taxes. So recognizing the limits of governing, some self-imposed, others inherent in the system, will be a key way for everyone to move forward. Hopefully the self-imposed ones will cease when Obama brings better people into his circle, and hopefully the left will recognize that its not all sunshine and lollipops up on capital hill, but an old and ugly machine that needs to be greased significantly before its parts can start moving.
mr-lynne says
… is the political calculation not to have an executive push on filibuster reform. If there are issues with the art of the possible, then certainly it would make sense to facilitate such a change to create better contexts for what is possible, yes? It’s not like he’s been shy about how much of a problem it is in his speeches, but for some reason it isn’t an initiative for him either.
christopher says
In our system separation of powers is sacrosanct to many, who will greatly resent it if the President appears to be telling the Senate how to conduct its business.
peter-porcupine says
jconway says
FDR’s court packing scheme was entirely constitutional and he had the public behind it initially, but the tradition of republican government, even those traditions that are not explicit to the Constitution, ended up winning the day as the Congress and public grew wary of it. Similar situation. Are you process based or outcome based? Do the ends justify the means? I would argue the process is just as important to republican democracy as the outcome and its best to tread carefully with reforms of this nature.
somervilletom says
kirth says
That bold part sounds oddly familiar, doesn’t it?
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marc-davidson says
The DU story is worth reading in its entirety. You’re right about the similarities of the back-and-forth here at BMG.
judy-meredith says
mannygoldstein says
Things continue to get worse for working Americans – U6, the best overall indicator of unemployment and underemployment, has risen to 17% and isn’t budging. But when the bankers have any problem, our Government goes into overdrive to fix it in days. We now have $12+ trillion of US taxpayer money guaranteeing banker junk assets, and maintaining banker bonuses. If the assets explode, we taxpayers get left holding the bag while the bankers flip us the bird from their yachts.
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jconway says
and the 1% he gets.
kbusch says
MannyGoldstein is not proposing a vote for Nader.
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mannygoldstein says
This is a recipe for disaster.
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kbusch says
For liberals, this is all very uphill. According to polling, conservatives almost outnumber us 2 to 1, and moderates make up at least half the Democratic party — and most of the time they are the majority of Democrats.
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marc-davidson says
hire Wall Street executives to push his economic agenda
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mannygoldstein says
increased taxes for the rich, and so on. If that many people want these things, and elected Democrats can’t deliver, they either aren’t trying or are staggeringly incompetent.
marc-davidson says
… are trying hard to make peace with their corporate sponsors
kbusch says
I’m surprised by this phenomenon: Polling strongly favors the liberal position; legislators legislate otherwise anyway; no one seems to lose a re-election contest as a result. Is this because support for liberal positions is always soft and it can be chipped away at (see healthcare reform and Maine marriage referendum)? Or is it because the guys that hold the purse strings have a pull strong enough that it overcomes the pull of public opinion?
mannygoldstein says
Move to the right then tell Democratic voters that it’s vote for the Right, or get the Far-Right. The latest incarnation is ‘Support Obama fully or else the Palin will be president’.
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kbusch says
Mid-term elections tend to be base elections.
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stomv says
In 1993/4, pro-gun control polled very well. Not only were citydwellers pro-gun control, but so were the families of suburbia. They weren’t calling for no guns, they were calling for “common sense” limits — no automatic weapons, nor scopes nor bullets with superpowers, better background checks, a limit on how many guns purchased per month, loophole closures, etc.
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kbusch says
I suspected that something like the Brady Bill phenomenon was afoot.
judy-meredith says
marc-davidson says
but it means pushing the core liberal agenda hard and calling on legislators who campaigned as progressives to actually vote that way and not making excuses for them and then rewarding them with energetic campaigning efforts. A lot of comments here, including your own, suggest a much more measured response to the legislative (and administrative) foot dragging — all carrot, no stick.
judy-meredith says
when we have to fight and fight and fight and we still can’t convince the administration to over ride public opinion — no matter how uninformed or wrong headed that public opinion may be — or we can’t get a majority of votes no matter how smart and informed and morally superior we may be.
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somervilletom says
I think President Obama sees the reality of the political landscape more clearly than any of us. I think he made a disappointing and probably accurate assessment that the electorate isn’t there, today, to support his agenda.
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judy-meredith says
Particularly for the first two sentences.
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somervilletom says
Let me try and clarify what I meant by “culture war” and “class war”.
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mannygoldstein says
When the average working American’s lot in life improves, they vote for the people in charge. When things get worse, they vote for the other candidates.
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judy-meredith says
mannygoldstein says
As to Cheney… even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
christopher says
…that is not only popular, but people will vote based on it?
stomv says
Except to say that we have bunches of them, and have to do them in bunches.
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kbusch says
Our Democratic overlords seem to recoil from making political issues — well, political. They don’t try to win on the issues.
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judy-meredith says
There are more of them then there are of us. And I think it’s almost always been that way. And I submit that when we Democrats are lucky enough to have a charismatic candidate for the Presidency like FDR or Jack Kennedy or Bill Clinton or Barak Obama who look and talk like liberals but who understand we are a minority, they do the best they can and when they fail they get the shit kicked out of them by purists who only undermine their attempts to move forward one step at a time.
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marc-davidson says
who caused his numbers to plummet. It’s the independents and new voters, seeing that his policies are inadequate to the situation, who have abandoned him in large numbers. We “purists” are a minority even here at BMG, if you haven’t noticed.
mizjones says
When asked questions about policies, the public is more liberal than they self-identify. A majority:
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jconway says
There’d have been no Bush if progressives voted intelligently instead of idealistically. Think about how much better the country would be today, surplus instead of deficit, no medicare D, no NCLB, no Iraq War, a peaceful and democratic Afghanistan with no Taliban or AQ which we’d have been out of by 2005 or so, and a more progressive healthcare proposal than the one Obama had. No Alito and no Roberts as well for that matter. Which means no Citizens United, which means stronger campaign finance reform. So yes a President Palin would be an unmitigated disaster and personally I don’t think its worth the risk.
marc-davidson says
for the 97000 Nader votes in Florida? Those votes, as shown by exit polls, didn’t cost Gore the election.
Gore ran a flawed campaign nationwide and managed a very flawed recount strategy in Florida.
kbusch says
The media decided to dislike Gore.
mizjones says
was instrumental in Bush’s Florida victory. As FL Secretary of State, she purged thousands of voters from districts that were demographically likely to favor Gore. Florida was only close because of her underhanded and possibly illegal tactics.
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liveandletlive says
for the fall of the Democrats in 2000. If you ask me, it was Monica Lewinsky. You can blame disaffected progressives all you want. The real strength lies with the independents, no matter which way they normally swing.
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christopher says
…except as a figment of Al Gore’s and his consultants’ imaginations. The “geniuses” surrounding Gore thought voters would have Clinton-fatigue. despite Clinton’s popularity staying strong and some polls suggesting Clinton himself would have cleaned Bush’s clock, but for the 22nd amendment. Therefore, Gore squandered an opportunity to run on eight years of relative peace and prosperity, because that would mean crediting Clinton.
liveandletlive says
especially for those of us trying to promote Al Gore. I was devastated when he lost. As much as we all want to pretend that the Lewinsky scandal didn’t happen or doesn’t matter, it did. It was the biggest part of the loss of credibility that otherwise would have ensured a win for
the Democrats. You’re right, Gore did remove himself from the Clinton administration. But unfortunately it didn’t matter. Either way, it probably wouldn’t have mattered.
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jimc says
Thanks Christopher.
judy-meredith says
lightiris says
from the Democrats that enrages me. I am not distracted by his good looks, his charm, his everyman quality, his profile in concentration.
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marc-davidson says
but unless liberals stand up and say no, the Democratic Party will become increasingly indistinguishable from the GOP
lightiris says
since Obama took office and look what it’s gotten us.
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marc-davidson says
very few liberals have been standing up. Obama’s approval rating among Democrats is in the high 80s. Most people who consider themselves liberal generally support Obama’s efforts or else are resigned to the slow pace of progress. Witness the comments here.
I agree fully with you that the center of power in the US is moving quickly to the right in spite of the overall popularity of a liberal agenda. This is a huge betrayal of our principles and signals the death of the DP.
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mizjones says
is what you can expect when you are satisfied with the slow pace and with the way compromises are made (only by Democrats) before negotiations even start.
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christopher says
…and I agree at least some have been, it hasn’t been heard. The GOP has been objecting to great effect, but there’s been no counterweight, or at least not an effective one.
liveandletlive says
applauding and excusing the inaction. Until they get a majority of Democrats disaffected, they are still confident in the Dem base and figure that the vote is solidly there no matter what. There has been some “screaming no” from the base, but not nearly enough and the polls are showing them this.
kbusch says
It’s likely that robust Republican majorities in state houses will overreach with visibly disastrous results.
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“This administration has been a disaster, and I’m not at all inclined to support another … Better to be associated with the party out of power than the party in power that can’t or won’t fight for anything.”
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marc-davidson says
what the right amount of pushing from the base looks like — in between no pushing at all (wholesale acceptance and cheerleading) and outright rejection of the administration (as lightiris suggests).
You say rejection didn’t work that well in 2000… fine. But wholesale acceptance leaves very much to be desired in the short term and the long-term effects of rolling over are even worse.
stomv says
You push hard in primaries to elect both POTUS and Congressional candidates who are more progressive, without overplaying like the teabaggers.
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marc-davidson says
but the problem is that people tend to fall asleep in between elections. I and a few others here are advocating for much more feedback from the base, both positive and negative, in between campaigns. The Tea Party was effective because they started hammering early and hard, and the GOP officials responded accordingly.
jconway says
By this time next year the troops will finally be home. College kids, seniors, working people, and the uninsured will have healthcare. Gays will be openly serving leading the foundation for eventual civil unions and possibly marriage at the federal level in the next decade, a victory unheard of a few months ago. We have returned to the sensible internationalist realism school of foreign policy and we will have better relations with the world, thats one of the biggest sea changes already. Guantanamo will be closed. The economy will be stable and will start creating jobs again. We will have had billions in new infrastructure. My biggest beef with the so called progressive who bitch about Obama is that they forgot that he has accomplished more for their beliefs in two years than Clinton did in eight. Good luck having any of that under a President McCain or a future President Palin. Those are the choices. The big problem with the ‘bitching wing’ of the party, and I’ve done my fair share of bitching here and elsewhere, but there is a permanent ‘bitching wing’ that won’t be happy until we have a socially democratic country. And that just ain’t happening in America. Ever. So once you get over that we can return to the robust liberalism of Truman-LBJ, who were all criticized by bitching wings in their own day due to the slow pace on medicare, social security, and civil rights and are now highly regarded as great presidents. So keep your pants on and be patient, governing takes time, if you bitch about how slow the process is than you would be much happier under a dictator and that’s a disturbing thought.
marc-davidson says
“By this time next year the troops will finally be home.”
Where are you getting this?
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That’s not at all apparent. The best examples are Israel, Iraq, and Afghanistan where our involvement is clearly not in our national interest. Also our foot-dragging in our engagement with the international community on climate change and sustainability is hardly enlightened.
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doubleman says
The troops will absolutely NOT be home – a few will start to come back, but the majority of forces will be there at least until 2014. And we’re continuing a pointless war at great cost financially, internationally, and morally.
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p>Don’t look to progressives to look fondly on the Clinton years. His was a horrible mess of a center-right administration. This administration is very similar in that points on the board matter more than actually solving problems. Clinton just got lucky to have a great public personality and a great economy compared to Bush and his tenure.
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p>My bitching is about trying to pressure this President to be better. High fiving him when he makes a bad deal and then berates liberals is just dumb. Frankly, it’s suicidal.
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p>I bitch because I wanted a pragmatic progressive, but instead got another DLC-style center-right guy.
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p>I don’t bitch because of the slow process. I bitch because of the large steps continually taken in the wrong direction.
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marc-davidson says
I have to conclude after 52 comments that we don’t all have the same criteria for what constitutes progress. In fact they are surprisingly divergent.
For the most part, the legislation of the last two years has been regressive or a reviving of previously GOP-sponsored ideas, e.g. the Dole-Romney Health Insurance reform, the Bush tax cuts, and the START treaty. This “slow and steady” progress is pretty discouraging, to say the least.
doubleman says
The national health reform is nothing like what Romney did in MA. Just ask him! He’ll tell you that it’s totally different.
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p>It is sad that Obama’s legislative record does not compare favorably from a progressive standpoint to Nixon’s.
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liveandletlive says
I guarantee you it wasn’t because some progressive Democrats and Greens voted for Ralph Nader.
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tyler-oday says