Can we just call this a draw and recognize that neither of these people are the problem? They are making money primarily for their work. Brown is a servant for the true elites, and Warren is a priestess for them, which is too bad and a waste of their abilities, but that’s the lot of all of us at this point in American history.
Neither of these people can truly direct state capitalism to get record profits in a collapsed economy. I don’t see the point in collecting more taxes from Elizabeth Warren and Scott Brown when the guy from Liberty Mutual will still find a way to collect $50M and buy a tax break for their downtown building.
Please share widely!
Christopher says
…but otherwise I think the point is well-taken. Literally, they may both be in the 1% in terms of income or net worth, but both do pale in comparison to the CEOs like the diarist mentions. As if it needs repeating the point is that one candidate supports policies to prop up the 1% while the other supports policies that work toward leveling the playing field.
sabutai says
…but like you I want to know what scraper sees that convinces him that Warren is a subject or worship for the 1%.
Mr. Lynne says
This kind of equivocation in the face of reality has to stop if you really want to get anywhere.
petr says
No we cannot. That would a elide a very strong distinction between the two of them: EW achieved her wealth by seriously and directly confronting some of the very issues at stake here. She is far more likely to be part of the solution. A 2011 Vanity Fair article had this to say about EW:
Without even making reference to SBs wealth, however it was attained, let us look at a selected list of publication titles by EW we find that she had, indeed, changed her vision and, what is more, had earnestly followed up on it. Some people, it seems, can change their mind after the seventh grade (I’m looking at you Grover…)
Articles
Warren, E. (1987). “Bankruptcy Policy”.
Warren, E. (1992). “The Untenable Case for Repeal of Chapter 11”. The Yale Law Journal
Warren, E. (1993). “Bankruptcy Policymaking in an Imperfect World”. Michigan Law Review
“Principled Approach to Consumer Bankruptcy”. American Bankruptcy Law Journal
“The Bankruptcy Crisis”. Indiana Law Journal Fall 1998.
Warren, Elizabeth; Westbrook, Jay Lawrence (January 2000). “Financial Characteristics of Businesses in Bankruptcy”. SSRN Electronic Journal 73:
Himmelstein, DU; Warren, E; Thorne, D; Woolhandler, S (2005). “Illness and injury as contributors to bankruptcy”. Health affairs (Project Hope) Suppl Web Exclusives:
“The Vanishing Middle Class”. In Edwards, John, ed. (2007). Ending Poverty in America: How to Restore the American Dream. The New Press. I
Himmelstein, David U.; Warren, Elizabeth; Thorne, Deborah; Woolhandler, Steffie J. (2005). “Illness and Injury as Contributors to Bankruptcy”
Himmelstein, DU; Thorne, D; Warren, E; Woolhandler, S (2009). “Medical bankruptcy in the United States, 2007: Results of a national study”. The American journal of medicine
Books
As We Forgive Our Debtors: Bankruptcy and Consumer Credit in America. Oxford University Press. 1989. ISBN 978-0-19-505578-8. (with Teresa A. Sullivan and Jay Westbrook)
The Fragile Middle Class: Americans in Debt. Yale University Press. 2001.
The Two-Income Trap: Why Middle-Class Parents are Going Broke. Basic Books. 2004. (with Amelia Warren Tyagi)
All Your Worth: The Ultimate Lifetime Money Plan. Simon and Schuster. 2006. (with Amelia Warren Tyagi)
The Law of Debtors and Creditors: Text, Cases, and Problems (6th ed.). Aspen Publishers. 2008. (with Jay Westbrook)
Chapter 11: Reorganizing American Businesses (Essentials). Aspen Publishers. 2008.
Chapter 11: Secured Credit: A Systems Approach. Wolters Kluwer Law & Business. 2008. (with Lynn M. LoPucki)
I say the lawyer who gets rich by confronting laws and helping people is a better person than the poseur who appears on Cosmo centerfolds and swears fealty to Grover Norquist.
kirth says
We can’t call it a draw because one of these people IS the problem. Not because he’s wealthy – it’s typical Republican BS to focus on a superficial and largely irrelevant characteristic the two people have in common and claim that that makes them equivalent. The reason they are not is that one of them has been actively working to expand the inequities of the current situation (and profiting from doing it), while the other person has been actively working to change that situation for the better.