I can’t imagine the legislature of OK doing this on its own so did a court step in?
jconwaysays
Was on a mobile device and quick to get this out, so no link initially.
This really puts blue states like OR, PA, WI, and MI in bad company.
fenway49says
This really puts blue states like OR, PA, WI, and MI in bad company.
Oklahoma, like Utah, did nothing to bring this about. A single federal judge issued a ruling, and Oklahoma is being dragged kicking and screaming. The 10th Circuit will weigh in on both cases and, I imagine, the Supreme Court as well. Not sure how I feel about that; it’s hard to imagine this Supreme Court ruling that the constitution requires all jurisdictions to grant marriage licenses equally.
Michigan, in particular, I wouldn’t consider much of a blue state. It’s gone from being a swing state to more reliably blue in the Presidential elections, but its governor and legislature are, for the moment, pure Tea Party. Ditto PA. WI is dicey too for the moment.
mike_cotesays
A judge did not just wake up one day and say, ‘Screw It”. This is not Fox News. Someone, somewhere, filed a lawsuit in which the question of the constitutionality of the prohibition was relevant, and as such, the judge ruled that the ban was unconstitutional. Oklahoma and Utah both did something to bring this about, they created laws and/or state constitutional amendments to violate the rights of some members of their states without cause and as such, a court needed to review it when a lawsuit was brought against the state because of it.
Christophersays
…that the states in question did nothing to affirmative legalize marriage equality.
fenway49says
Obviously Oklahoma and Utah’s discriminatory laws brought about the lawsuits. I’m saying they shouldn’t get credit for moving away from that discrimination. It wasn’t even a state court that ruled to strike it down.
mike_cotesays
Sometimes, Karma is just the best!
fenway49says
I could see how you could read it that way. But do you really think I’d say we should give Oklahoma a pass on discrimination? Jeez, Mike…
mike_cotesays
1) You see the title of the comment.
2) You see the commenter’s name.
3) You see the comment.
The thing that bothered me was the:
A single federal judge issued a ruling, and Oklahoma is being dragged kicking and screaming
I actually jumped back to see if you had said “Activist Judge”, because after the “did nothing”, this did seem to me, on first glance, like it was a screed against “Activist Judges”.
Again, after the number of comments defending the Duck Dynasty crap a few weeks ago, I jumped to the wrong conclusion.
sure smells sweet.
Details, link, anything.
I can’t imagine the legislature of OK doing this on its own so did a court step in?
Was on a mobile device and quick to get this out, so no link initially.
This really puts blue states like OR, PA, WI, and MI in bad company.
Oklahoma, like Utah, did nothing to bring this about. A single federal judge issued a ruling, and Oklahoma is being dragged kicking and screaming. The 10th Circuit will weigh in on both cases and, I imagine, the Supreme Court as well. Not sure how I feel about that; it’s hard to imagine this Supreme Court ruling that the constitution requires all jurisdictions to grant marriage licenses equally.
Michigan, in particular, I wouldn’t consider much of a blue state. It’s gone from being a swing state to more reliably blue in the Presidential elections, but its governor and legislature are, for the moment, pure Tea Party. Ditto PA. WI is dicey too for the moment.
A judge did not just wake up one day and say, ‘Screw It”. This is not Fox News. Someone, somewhere, filed a lawsuit in which the question of the constitutionality of the prohibition was relevant, and as such, the judge ruled that the ban was unconstitutional. Oklahoma and Utah both did something to bring this about, they created laws and/or state constitutional amendments to violate the rights of some members of their states without cause and as such, a court needed to review it when a lawsuit was brought against the state because of it.
…that the states in question did nothing to affirmative legalize marriage equality.
Obviously Oklahoma and Utah’s discriminatory laws brought about the lawsuits. I’m saying they shouldn’t get credit for moving away from that discrimination. It wasn’t even a state court that ruled to strike it down.
Sometimes, Karma is just the best!
I could see how you could read it that way. But do you really think I’d say we should give Oklahoma a pass on discrimination? Jeez, Mike…
1) You see the title of the comment.
2) You see the commenter’s name.
3) You see the comment.
The thing that bothered me was the:
I actually jumped back to see if you had said “Activist Judge”, because after the “did nothing”, this did seem to me, on first glance, like it was a screed against “Activist Judges”.
Again, after the number of comments defending the Duck Dynasty crap a few weeks ago, I jumped to the wrong conclusion.