Older, established, not any real surprises. Warren’s the most out-of-left-field of the group (and she’s awesome), which probably accounts for her being second behind the presumptive nominee. Looks at the post-WWII Dems who won the Presidency without already being the incumbent. Obama, Clinton, Carter and JFK all were young and perceived as being a change from both the national and party establishment.
Just to toss this out there, what if the Dems had a candidate from the private sector? I’d love to see a successful businessperson shoot down Republican tropes about what the private sector needs to succeed and make the case for a more equitable society. Who that is, I don’t know, but I’m not sure there’s a winner in this field of prospective candidates.
Christophersays
…but I don’t like the idea of jumping right to the presidency with no political office to your name.
jconwaysays
Herbert Hoover tried it and it was awful. At least from business, many of our general-presidents have actually been pretty good.
johntmaysays
It’s early, but I’m looking at Jim Webb to be the surprise here. How about him with Jeanne Shaheen as his running mate? For a private sector candidate, how about Glenn Renwick …with Flo as his running mate? đŸ™‚
jconwaysays
A lot of my friends from SFBO (the folks who won Iowa for Obama) are not feeling Webb or Schweitzer. There is a conservative reputation both have on symbolic stuff like keystone that makes them anathema to the base but probably more electable than Hillary-while being to her left on substantive areas like economics, foreign policy and civil liberties. Webb is definitely running, interested to see where he goes. I’m with Bernie for now, so are most of those friends.
kbuschsays
A fairly simple graph like this of polling numbers and trend-lines is perhaps too elementary to be bestowed the title “wonk”. Where are the footnotes? Why no political scientists? Where are the references to papers in academic journals? There isn’t even a confidence interval anywhere!
paulsimmonssays
…where in most cases the marginals, crosstabs, and other relevant information are available. My interest was to show snapshots-in-time-over-time. My purpose in this instance (and in most similar posts) was to display the data, not analyze it.
I could write a monograph, with footnotes,etc. However I still think that one picture is worth a thousand words.
kbuschsays
I’m also certain you could, in fact, produce bona fide wonkery.
kbuschsays
Just the title.
I’m also certain you could, in fact, produce bona fide wonkery of a most rigorous and impressive quality. Hence, the small disappointment from wonkery promised but unprovided.
methuenprogressivesays
But she’s the one who is “too old”?
Interesting poll results – Warren isn’t running, despite the NH Draft Elizabeth group that started up today, so where does her support end up? WithBernie Sanders?
drikeo says
Older, established, not any real surprises. Warren’s the most out-of-left-field of the group (and she’s awesome), which probably accounts for her being second behind the presumptive nominee. Looks at the post-WWII Dems who won the Presidency without already being the incumbent. Obama, Clinton, Carter and JFK all were young and perceived as being a change from both the national and party establishment.
Just to toss this out there, what if the Dems had a candidate from the private sector? I’d love to see a successful businessperson shoot down Republican tropes about what the private sector needs to succeed and make the case for a more equitable society. Who that is, I don’t know, but I’m not sure there’s a winner in this field of prospective candidates.
Christopher says
…but I don’t like the idea of jumping right to the presidency with no political office to your name.
jconway says
Herbert Hoover tried it and it was awful. At least from business, many of our general-presidents have actually been pretty good.
johntmay says
It’s early, but I’m looking at Jim Webb to be the surprise here. How about him with Jeanne Shaheen as his running mate? For a private sector candidate, how about Glenn Renwick …with Flo as his running mate? đŸ™‚
jconway says
A lot of my friends from SFBO (the folks who won Iowa for Obama) are not feeling Webb or Schweitzer. There is a conservative reputation both have on symbolic stuff like keystone that makes them anathema to the base but probably more electable than Hillary-while being to her left on substantive areas like economics, foreign policy and civil liberties. Webb is definitely running, interested to see where he goes. I’m with Bernie for now, so are most of those friends.
kbusch says
A fairly simple graph like this of polling numbers and trend-lines is perhaps too elementary to be bestowed the title “wonk”. Where are the footnotes? Why no political scientists? Where are the references to papers in academic journals? There isn’t even a confidence interval anywhere!
paulsimmons says
…where in most cases the marginals, crosstabs, and other relevant information are available. My interest was to show snapshots-in-time-over-time. My purpose in this instance (and in most similar posts) was to display the data, not analyze it.
I could write a monograph, with footnotes,etc. However I still think that one picture is worth a thousand words.
kbusch says
I’m also certain you could, in fact, produce bona fide wonkery.
kbusch says
Just the title.
I’m also certain you could, in fact, produce bona fide wonkery of a most rigorous and impressive quality. Hence, the small disappointment from wonkery promised but unprovided.
methuenprogressive says
But she’s the one who is “too old”?
Interesting poll results – Warren isn’t running, despite the NH Draft Elizabeth group that started up today, so where does her support end up? WithBernie Sanders?