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Pope Francis did not say Trump Is not a Christian

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To the American Press:
So sorry that you, like Trump, completely misinterpreted what the Pope said. You, as writers, should be more perceptive.
Specifically, Pope Francis did not say Trump was not a Christian.
The Pope did not use a noun. The Pope used an adjective. He said that a person who builds walls instead of bridges, is not Christian.  That is an adjective.
The American press has become lazy and flabby.
Terry McGinty
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  3. I could be mistaken, but I’m under the impression (carefully cultivated by the media and at least some campaigns, I think) that EACH of the GOP candidates proposes to build a wall.

    In the first debate, I heard Mr. Cruz and Mr. Rubio loudly argue with each other about which of them would be the taller wall.

    Bigotry against immigrants is a canon of today’s GOP. The Pope has, to my ears, addressed that bigotry.

  4. Have you seen pictures of the wall around Vatican City? Trump could only hope to build one so high.
    And those comments were from the head of an organization that for the last two years had surrounded St Mary’s Cathedral in San Francisco with an irrigation system that randomly squirted the poor homeless, to drive them away, those who had come to sleep in the shadows of a locked Christian church maybe hoping to commune with “God”.

    • There is no shortage of Vatican shortcomings to attack when the Pope says anything about anything. I don’t think that’s the point. I think the point is that the GOP and right wing have been sanctimoniously trading on Vatican support for decades while waging cultural war on women and gays.

      I think this Pope just said “Enough is enough”. The alliance between the GOP and the Catholic Church is terminated.

      • If you listen to Cardinal Sean in Boston you’d think he was an arm of the Democratic Party. He gets millions from the state for his housing projects, he spoke out against the repeal 40B effort, and he’s been pro-immigrant (in MA) since he was the bishop of Fall River (and I think he goes way further back with that group).

        No Republican in MA that I know has ever felt like there’s an alliance with the Catholic Church. They might share those goals you mentioned on occasion (the right to die ballot initiative was especially opposed in MA, and priests spoke out against it during mass).

        I would be interested into why you feel you have insight into what the Pope’s thinking, especially as you have spoken out forcibly against the whole theology. I’d have assumed you think of him as more of a charlatan more than anything.

  6. A massive shift which was drowned out by the horse race coverage, but he is the first post-council pope to directly mention the 56′-65′ subcommittee of theologians and scientists first called by Pope Pius that was ready to approve it until Paul VI put the breaks on it in 68′ with Humane Vitae.

    By openly saying it’s not evil like abortion and may even serve the common good in emergency situations he really is contradicting the findings of that encyclical in a direct way. Obviously pronouncements on a plane aren’t dogma altering, but it’s a shift from even the careful parsing Benedict did on condoms and AIDS to something much broader. And it was totally overlooked in the Trump fight.

  7. The Pope can offer whatever kind of advice he wants to Roman Catholics.

    He absolutely cannot state what is Christian, as most are unaffiliated with him.

    We went though this 400 years ago. The wall around his enclave was doubtless built to keep out the Lutherans

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