The best way is to join the ticket:
I'm going to fight my heart out to make sure @realDonaldTrump’s toxic stew of hatred & insecurity never reaches the White House.
— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) May 4, 2016
Sanders supporters, would you vote for a Clinton / Warren ticket?
Please share widely!
It would be great to have Senator Warren on the ticket, but I’d rather have her campaigning for fellow Senators.
I do think it would be beneficial for HRC to pick a woman as her running mate. Kirsten Gillibrand is too young, and maybe too New York.
In the past couple of days, there has been a lot of buzz about Tim Kaine as VP, which is a verZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Kaine is so boring and brings nothing great to the ticket. Clinton has no real experience holes, just personality holes. She needs a skilled, charming politician with a populist streak. That ain’t Kaine.
JohnK – Clinton/Warren I don’t see happening for a number of reasons and while it would be great, Warren is better positioned to get things done in her Senate seat, as so many here have pointed out.
Trump.
and the 1st rumored person as well.
unintentional. As JimC feel asleep think about Kaine while I was still asking about Warren.
would you vote for that ticket?
If it came to that.
A VP choice to mollify or excite the base is a lot cleaner than haggling over platform.
The NY electors won’t be allowed to vote for both, though I suppose there are states Clinton could claim to move to.
I’ll grant that Gillibrand is probably too “New York” to be the nominee but too young?
She would be 50 years old at Inauguration. That makes her older than a dozen past Vice Presidents (25%) elected in their forties and including Teddy Roosevelt, Al Gore and Walter Mondale. Only a dozen VPs have been in their sixties at Inauguration and only 1 was in his 70s. Sarah Plain would have been just 44 years old.
She looks younger.
Would any Sanders people support a Clinton / Warren ticket.
My sense is that it would move a lot of people and Warren does well in attacking Trump. It will go a long way to bridge the party.
But interesting that I got reasons why it wouldn’t happen rather than answering.
I’d support the ticket but would be pretty bummed about it. It may help some for the election, but then we’d be placing our brightest star in a much worse position where she would be significantly less effective. I think she knows that, too, and she’d likely turn it down, especially because Warren has shown very very few signs of wanting the presidency, which is the only benefit of the VP slot (and maybe not even for her given her outsized impact in the Senate now).
I’m sure I would vote for that ticket were it offered. I think it’s an AWFUL prospect.
I think Elizabeth Warren can move more people against Donald Trump from right where she is. I can’t think of anything she might do as VP candidate to bridge the party that she can’t do better from right where she is.
in a Clinton-Warren ticket. Warren is my favorite senator and Massachusetts politician, but she’d be wasted as vice president.
There must be other buckets of warm spit out there.
But I’d welcome her involvement. But I do find it interesting that Warren chose to critique Trump so harshly again. It does seem like she will be active in supporting Clinton during the general.
Sherrod Brown outpolled Obama in 2012 precisely because he’s a solid ally of labor and knows how to appeal to blue collar workers displaced by free trade. Yes it risks a Senate seat, but Trump will likely help us in that department and it shores up Hillary with her largest regional and demographic weakness. It’s also someone from the Warren wing of the party who’s a straight, white male with a solid base of blue collar support.
And I will echo the consensus that Kaine is a lousy VP nominee. I also am on record favoring a third Biden term as Veep, for largely the same reasons that he was an asset to Obama and would appeal to the same bloc of voters as Brown.
Lousiest choices: Kaine, Warner, Booker
Best choices: Brown, Gilibrand, Kloubuchar, and my personal favorite Al Franken.
is wrong with the Democratic Party, politically speaking.
I’m good with any of James’s best choices.
He speaks in effective soundbites about taking on Wall Street and helping working people, and he would be fantastic as an attack dog against Trump. Hillary is a humorless and charisma free policy wonk, and he would be a tremendously effective surrogate in those areas. Especially as someone familiar with mocking celebrity culture. He also brings everything Brown brings to the table, with a Dem governor making the appointment. The only thing Republicans could say is ‘he’s a comedian’ to which we can say, look at the fuckin mirror.
Let’s recruit Jon Steward. He’s between gigs.
I love Al Franken, but I really DON’T want to take ANY Democrat out of the Senate, and that’s especially so for the heavy-hitters like Al Franken and Elizabeth Warren.
Gov. Dayton, the best governor in America, could make Keith Ellison, a fantastic progressive, the first Muslim Senator while the Minneapolis mayor could win his safe seat. Franken has been a workhorse, but I honestly think he’d have a more visible role as Veep, it’s a step up for his profile in a way it’s not for Warren. It also helps shore the Jewish vote in Florida which could trend Trumpward.
The first Muslim Senator would cause heads to explode in Trumpland, and on the Right generally!:)
And choose a Koran to swear on instead of a Bible. It’s sad and silly bigotry on it’s face, but wouldn’t a voter trust his oath more if it’s on his own Holy Book? Isn’t he more accountable that way? Not to mention it’s likely Washington and any other Masonic president swore on a Koran at some point during his life, since every major holy book is laid out on a table and the initiates recognize each one as equally sacred as part of the ceremony to instill respect across the faiths.
…but a Qu’ran owned by Thomas Jefferson.
…the way he did the Bible?”)
Clinton is the only feasible president who won’t lead to embarrassment and retrograde policy in our nation. The vice presidential candidate doesn’t really affect that one way or the other.
the vitamins he could sell on those campaign stops.
he’s still buthurt on his loss to Warren. Brown questioned Warren’s Twitter statement and Mr. bqhatevwr said that she was drunk tweeting.
What a sad sack.
A former Republican forming one of our town committees in central mass recounted meeting Brown at a fundraiser and having him tell the room “I gotta go! My aide says Mayor Menino is calling to endorse me!” and it ended up being the mayor of somewhere completely different.
Brown endorsed Trump when he was already up by big numbers in NH a week before the primary. The guy has guts.
And hurts Warren. She’s just fine where she is.
the HUD Secretary is young (41), charismatic, progressive, Latino, former Mayor and San Antonio City Councilor AND, most important, — PUTS TEXAS IN PLAY FOR THE DEMOCRATS for the first time since 1960 when JFK tapped LBJ!
AND, we don’t have to give up a Senate seat !
Fred Rich LaRiccia
While Daley & Joe Kennedy stealing Chicago and Illinois for JFK is the well known rumor/story, Caro makes a plausible case that LBJ stole Texas for the ticket as well.
In 48′ when he beat Coke Stevenson in the Texas Democratic Primary (the general election in those days :p )
…of his ironic nickname “Landslide Lyndon”.
As for JFK, he addressed allegations that his father was buying the election on his behalf by reading a telegram supposedly from his father that said, “Dear Jack, Don’t buy a single vote more than necessary. I’ll be damned if I have to pay for a landslide!”
Is there a poll to back that up? Or is he putting Texas in play the way Lloyd Bentsen put Texas in play?
(Also: the Democrats have in fact won Texas twice since 1960).
Of course, I’ve read that TX is trending toward being in play for us the next few cycles anyway given its demographics, though I suppose Trump could accelerate that.
I like the Veep speculation as much as anyone, but it’s important to remember that the VP choice rarely if ever makes a big difference in the election, even in the Veep’s home state. There’s a reason that “bold” (e.g. non-boring) picks usually are by candidates who are losing big and need to shake things up.
Given that Clinton is the favorite going in, a “bold” pick is unlikely (this would include people like Sanders or another woman on the ticket, which apparently counts as “bold” despite a pretty long history of single-sex tickets in this country). I think it’s much better to think about who Clinton gets along with and would complement her strengths when in office, either on foreign or domestic policy. The only major electoral consideration would be choosing a Senator who would be replaced with a Republican, which Democrats can’t afford (so someone like Sherrod Brown is likely out).
In short — I think the most sensible approach would be to pick someone who will work well with Clinton and help in policymaking over four to eight years, as opposed to someone who may help only marginally at best in the few months until November.
so it might be more coveted than usual, and Clinton might think it’s more important than normal to pick someone who will be great in 8 years (it was always unlikely Biden was going to run).
That’s why I would put Castro at the top of the list.
Just a few years ago, this thread would not have gotten very far without the mention of the sitting governor, who had promised that he’d not resign during either elected term. But now that he isn’t governor and he’s, well… honestly, I don’t know what he’s doing, but since breaking his “I’ll serve out my term” promise is no longer an obstacle, why hasn’t he been mentioned?
Is it an “out of sight, out of mind” sort of thing?
Has he made it clear that he has no interest in politics anymore (when has that ever stopped speculation)?
Just wondering.
He’s a lousy choice and was a fairly unpopular and unsuccessful governor his second term. DCF would rightly be a liability in a presidential campaign.
I’m also in agreement with Mr Conway that he’s got a lot of baggage.