That a boy Joe. You know I always believed Joe, Beau, and the Biden clan never had a problem with him running for the big job. Beau’s death didn’t take the fight for the presidency out of Joe. Nope. Not at all. Rather the personal tragedy took away his fight to destroy Hillary, the DNC, and the course it had taken.
If Joe ran he would have had to declare war on the DNC and Hillary’s coronation to the nomination. Then he had to run for the presidency.
Anyway, he doesn’t have to worry about that in 2020. Unless of course the elite Democrats want to keep believing Hillary lost because of bigots, James Comey, fake news, chauvinists, and anything else not associated with the weakness of the candidate.
Here’s hopping the party gets the message and sees how other people see it. No Hollywood ending either if they don’t.
bob-gardner says
. . . if you check his vote on the Iraq, you can see he knows how to declare war.
HeartlandDem says
And it might be because they do not seem to be looking in the rear view mirror.
There was a moment when the D’s looked forward and it was the election of Barack Obama. He and his lovely family will be moving to a new phase of life where I suspect they will continue to amaze, charm and lead this befuddled, fear-based nation.
Love Joe, truly.
But, no more end of the career candidates for POTUS, please.
Look to fresh faces. Establishment D’s are not wanted in leadership today. Baby boomers release thy claws!
Brexit – vote against establishment and for nationalism. The flip has happened globally – the insiders are blind.
Our mensch Jon Stewart summed it up best in a recent interview,
Christopher says
Age per se is just a number, but the Presidency IMO is supposed to be the pinnacle of the political hierarchy, and yes, establishment, following long and distinguished service in public office.
centralmassdad says
Dem presidents, in reverse order:
Junior Senator (< 1 term)
Southern Governor (Won 5 elections, lost 1, mostly 2 year terms)
Southern Governor (1 term)
Pinnacle of political hierarchy, following long and distinguished service, but only got there by VP/death
Junior Senator ( 3 terms in the House, 1.5 terms in the Senate)
Senator, but only got there by VP/death
Sec of the Navy/Governor of NY
Seems to me that the Dem nominations of the "long and distinguished career" types, and Clinton is certainly one, they lose: Clinton, Kerry, Gore, Mondale, Humprey.
It does seem like the recipe for success is to find a governor of a purple state (are there any of these anymore?) or a fast-rising star.
Christopher says
…but I was referring to my preference. Plus, the presidency DOES tend to be one’s final public office most of the time.
jconway says
Part of the downballot problem we’ve had even in years where we won the presidency. And the few purple or red state Governors we do have are largely anathema to our base. I’d vote for Steve Bullock just as I would’ve voted for Brian Schweitzer, but if you saw how Bernie was savaged over guns wait until either of those guys runs. Earl Roy Tomblin and Joe Bel Edwards got elected because by of local flukes and are both anti-choice in addition to being anti-gun control.
I like John Hickenlooper and Jack Markell as wonky and business oriented progressives, but that style has also fallen out of fashion. And Hickenlooper ha slow approval ratings at home. These are the slim Pickens when only 18 out of 50 governorships are in the hands of team D. Maybe the new guy in North Carolina can be a bright light.
Christopher says
..by Gov. Schweitzer’s speech at the last convention. I would definitely give him strong consideration even as my primary horse to back. If he has a Montana view of guns I would not necessarily hold that against him. Even progressive darling Howard Dean was a bit softer on guns being from VT, but there’s always a chance he understands that a different position is appropriate for a national race. To be clear I’m not advocating a full and disingenuous sounding flip-flop or suggesting he would do that, just an acknowledgement that was may be best for Montana may not be best for the US as a whole.
centralmassdad says
Having lived in a nonblue state, it seems to me that the “base” view is a gigantic liability outside of the coastal suburban states that are not even at risk to Trump.
JimC says
Good movie, by the way. Stephen Frears knows what he’s doing.
johntmay says
he knows he blew his chance. It would have been a bold move and the right move, but he blew it. The next Democratic president we get into the White House will only get there by being bold an not bound to old party politics.
bob-gardner says
He was a tool of the credit card industry.