Saturday’s Women’s March on Washington and across 300 cities from coast to coast and in the heartland saw three million of our fellow Americans rise up, speak out and fight back in righteous indignation against the tyranny of Trumpism.
This is only the first shot of the Resistance Revolution heard ’round the world in 300 international cities on every continent.
Democracy and Freedom for ALL. Now and forever !
” With public opinion there’s nothing you can’t do and without public opinion there’s not much you can get done.” ABRAHAM LINCOLN
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johntmay says
Can’t recall the TV show of the person.
In any case, they dismissed this by saying “Wow, Boston, NYC, LA, ” all cities and parts of the country where we lost but still wound up winning the national election. ” As much as I appreciate the need for people to vent their anger, to show their opposition, to find solidarity, the Trump supporter had a valid point.
If the lion starts to roar in rural Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio, and so on, yeah, that’s something for Trump to worry about.
Chuck Schumer said “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.”
Chuck and his neoliberal pals in the party need to wake up…
Christopher says
It was cities in just about every state and those who showed up were not just from those cities. No, the Trump supporter’s point was no more valid than his press secretary trying to convince us the inauguration was the best attended, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
jconway says
Marchers and speakers routinely and repeatedly pointed towards economic inequality getting worse under Trump as not only one of their fears, but their main fear.
johntmay says
I’ve been looking into headlines in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania for good news. Can’t find much but there’s some. Fact is that if, in 2020, the Democratic nominee beats Trump in margins DOUBLE to the ones Clinton won in NY, MA, CA, but we still lose FL, OH, & PA, Trump still wins.
stomv says
Maybe. But maybe not. The closest EVs that Clinton didn’t win:
MI 0.2% 16 EV
PA 0.6% 20 EV
WI 0.7% 10 EV
FL 1.2% 29 EV
NE-02: 2.2% 1 EV
AZ 3.5% 11 EV
NC 3.7% 15 EV
GA 5.1% 16 EV
OH 8.1% 18 EV
TX 9.0% 38 EV
IA 9.4% 6 EV
Ignoring faithless electors, Trump wins 306-232. 38 EVs need to be flipped. MI + WI + NE-02 + AZ = 38. Clinton lost Arizona by 3.5%; the other three I’ve picked were even closer than that. Clinton lost Ohio by 8.1%.
Dem 2020 doesn’t need any of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania to win. Realistically it’s hard to see Dem 2020 winning MI, WI, NE-02, and AZ without also winning Pennsylvania, but it’s certainly possible.
I’m not arguing that Dem 2020 should ignore any state entirely, or should pick and choose narrowly. I am arguing that a narrow focus on Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania is a terrible idea because not only are they not necessary for the win, they’re actually a repeat of the very problems Clinton ran into — focusing on too narrow a list of states and letting ones she should have had (PA, WI, MI) slip away.
I find this chart really helpful:
merrimackguy says
Any attribution?
stomv says
wikipedia
johntmay says
, here we go again. I do not support a narrow focus on Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania as the solution. I do support a 50 State Solution. I do not support another campaign like Clinton’s that ignored or took areas for granted. But I do appreciate your post.
stomv says
You wrote that if the Demo2020 candidate loses Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania then Trump wins the presidential election.
I wrote that this claim is nonsense.
johntmay says
MY point (not the one you put in its place), is that if all we do is win in greater numbers in the states that Clinton won, and nothing else changes, Trump wins….but it looks like you have a dog to beat so you found a stick.
Well done. Keep it up.
Christopher says
…is that if the state by state distribution is the same in 2020 we still lose, even larger popular margins in the states we already won notwithstanding.
petr says
… I think the focus should be on 2018 and taking back the Senate. 2020 will get here when it gets here. Now, though, we need to focus on the midterm and limiting the damage they can do, not defeating them, per se…
betsey says
Obviously, you didn’t read this.
johntmay says
Now I did. Thanks. It’s looking better.
jconway says
The marches were well attended in the states Trump won as well. My in laws moving to Ohio are just as proud of my Senior Senator as I was. She astutely points out that rights for women and rights for workers are mutually inclusive fights:
I totally agree with you that the Schumer/Clinton strategy failed to materialize. These suburbanites are the same “wealthy Trump supporters” Vox uses to discredit the narrative about his working class support. We can’t run another election without emphasizing that the class struggle is all too real for most Americans and we got to have their back. That doesn’t mean the all too real fight against discrimination suddenly takes a back burner. This is the same fight-a fairer America for all Americans.
johntmay says
Is real and there is no amount of “job training and education” or “jobs in manufacturing” that will change that. The solutions are political, not economic.
edgarthearmenian says
I came to BMG today and there were actually two people whose heads were not exploding.))) Thank you, James and Johnt,
terrymcginty says
The encouraging was that the speakers in Manhattan, where I was, focused overwhelmingly not upon how superior we were or terrible Trump is, but rather upon what we would all DO. That is unusual.
Trickle up says
I’ve actually never been to a demonstration that focused on this.
Is this some kind of backhanded slam at labor, or peaceniks, or environmentalists? Because I think there are substantive criticisms to be made but this just feels gratuitous.
Peter Porcupine says
…and was struck by how many causes were shoehorned into a Women’s March. There was some mild violence, small fires, etc., but it was the vegan/animal signs and other abstruse issues that seemed odd.
Obviously, a gigantic crowd, so mileage will vary from block to block. I was in the West 57th area.
Donald Green says
How to ascertain what these women and their men counterparts are asking of their country. As a Rotary member we have a 4 way test to try to determine if justice is determining any policy, action, or idea:
Is it the truth?
Is it fair to all concerned?
Will it build goodwill and better friendships?
Will it be beneficial to all concerned?
As you can see, President Trump, could not abide by the club’s watchword.