You’re sending negative ads to your base. How is that helpful? The amendment says the hospital has to have in place a referral process; it was rejected, and Brown voted for the emergency contraception bill anyway.
He doesn’t stand by his principles, or he was just grandstanding in the first place.
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p>If Brown had had his way, hospitals could deny rape victims emergency contraception.
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p>That does not go down well with a lot of voters.
dcsurfersays
The cover says Brown wants hospitals to “turn them all away”, as if he was trying to make all hospitals completely refuse all care for rape victims.
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p>And I wonder what in the act enforces the “rape victim” part? Is there a requirement that the rape be reported and the rapist sought and apprehended? Or can women just say they were raped to get EC after completely consensual sex?
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facilities that provide emergency care shall promptly offer emergency contraception at the facility to each female rape victim of childbearing age, and shall initiate emergency contraception upon her request.
If your deeply held religious conviction says that all rape victims deserved what they got, maybe he’d be all for that too?
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p>Just saying. I mean, it could be a deeply held religious conviction after all!
dcsurfersays
Why the requirement that they were raped? Is it to save their virtue, or the legislature’s virtue? Is it free if you were raped, but costs money if it was consensual?
dcsurfersays
Wait, hospitals admit thousands of people a year for care after consensual sex. Thousands of people have consensual sex and then worry about STD’s, pregnancy, bleeding and injury, heart attacks, etc, and surely they go to a “medical facility” for “timely access to emergency contraception”. Was it just politically impossible to require facilities to provide EC for consensual sex? Even in Massachusetts? So all they could get was mandating they provide it for rape victims?
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p>I think that the police should be called to treat rape victims, and hospitals shouldn’t treat rape victims until a special state police officer who is trained in helping rape victims arrives and collects evidence, unless there is an immediate danger to her health requiring immediate care. And I think that all rape victims (and rape perpetrators, if the perp is a woman) should be forced to take EC to stop the crime in progress, just like thieves should give back the money they stole. I don’t think being raped is a suitable way to get pregnant, and people should be spared from being created that way. I think even Catholics should agree that whatever can be done to stop a rapist from succeeding and causing a pregnancy should be done, and that EC does not kill a life, just like natural family planning doesn’t, even though many embryos are created by practicing NFP that never implant and become living.
annesays
Why should I have to go to a second hospital? Whatever ER I show up at should do their job and treat me, in full, to the best of their abilities.
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p>I just have to question what kind of person would sponsor a bill like this, especially somebody with 2 teenage daughters. Ugh.
kathysays
Talk about no empathy…
delandjimsays
Federal Bill Includes A Conscience Clause. “PROVIDER CONSCIENCE PROTECTIONS.-No individual health care provider or health care facility may be discriminated against because of an willingness or an unwillingness, if doing so is contrary to the religious or moral beliefs of the provider or facility, to provide, pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions.” (Sec. 1303(a), H.R. 3590, Amendment In The Nature Of A Substitute, “Patient Protection And Affordable Care Act,” Introduced 11/18/09) also In A Letter To The Pope, Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Said “I Believe In A Conscience Protection For Catholics.”
laurelsays
DOes that article really talk about failure somewhere? I’m not seeing it.
He and other officers around the country had been reinstated by wartime extension boards, according to Brown. By that time, he had completed his final course. He said political connections were not a factor in his reinstatement.
laurelsays
usually means getting failing grades. this is not the same thing as dropping out, which it sounds like he did. there is so much wrong about brown that i don’t think anyone needs to use hyperbole about his shortcomings.
Skewers an even lesser ad, did you bother to read it? Here’s the meat:
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Still, the ad is basically on track, factually, until we come to a claim that “Brown even favors letting hospitals deny emergency contraception to rape victims.” It’s true that in 2005, when the Massachusetts state Legislature was considering a bill to require hospitals to provide emergency contraception to rape victims, Brown introduced an amendment that would have let doctors and nurses opt out based on “a sincerely held religious belief” and refer patients elsewhere. It was similar to “conscience” provisions in state and federal legislation that would avoid forcing Catholic hospitals to provide abortion or contraception against the teachings of the church. Here’s the language:
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The amendment failed. But what the ad doesn’t mention is that Brown voted for the underlying bill anyway, even after the Republican governor vetoed it.
The most misleading part of the ad, though, is not what the narrator says, but what appears on screen. As the contraception amendment is mentioned, viewers see the words, “Deny rape victims care.” Emergency contraception is certainly a type of care. But the language on screen implies that Brown would support denial of even, say, treatment of injuries sustained in a rape.
That’s far from the truth. The bill, which became part of the Massachusetts state code’s section on public health, required that rape victims be provided with accurate information about emergency contraception and that they be offered it. Brown voted for the bill after unsuccessfully trying to carve out a religion exception. And there is nothing in the record that we are aware of to suggest that Brown ever supported denying any other type of care to victims of sexual assault.
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p>And that was just “favors letting..” not “wants to turn them ALL away”
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p>How silly.
robespierresays
What the heck? Your factcheck link pretty much says you guys are making something out of nothing. Did you even read it? And the article about his JAG experience pretty much says the same.
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p>gop1776 says,” Read between the lines…” What make crap up?
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p>This is the best we can do? This?! We’re no better than they are!
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p>This guy needs to lose but we’ve run the lamest lame duck EVAH. EVAH. Coakley keeps running typical smear ads, that nobody wants to see anymoe. Brown is taking the highroad, for the most part, and look how well he’s doing. In Massachussetts! Coakley can’t even spell it correctly.
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p>Read between the lines, Har Har Har. Jesus F.Christ on a popsicle stck, we’re supposed to be the ones with principles!
chilipeprsays
My mother and both my sisters just told me the were voting for Brown … Just because of how distorted they think this ad is!!
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p>They are three woman who never vote Republican, but because if MC’s ad campaign, they will be on Tuesday.
And, yes, of course I read the FactCheck piece. That is why I linked to it. It is, of course, talking about a different ad.
chilipeprsays
thinking that everyone who disagrees with how MC is running her campaign is a RMG troll…. is how we will lose this election!
kathysays
goforutsays
Quick notes about the National Guard comments. I served as an officer in the Mass guard from about 1986-90 and on active duty during the 1990s, so my info may be dated. For more disclosure, I’m an unenrolled voter leaning towards Brown. I certainly don’t think he’s perfect, but he certainly did not ‘fail out of the Nat Guard JAG’.
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p>1) The training which I am guessing Scott didn’t complete is a fairly extensive equivalent of a 10 month full-time course called Command and General Staff College. Many reserve, and some active officers complete this training in a correspondence course format, mixed with some on-site seminars. Many of my friends who have done so used a lot of their vacation time to get through hundreds of books, or completed them during periods of unemployment (after corporate layoffs or during summers if they are teachers). I believe it is somewhat common for part-time Guard officers, especially those with successful and busy full-time jobs, to decide that the workload is more than they want to deal with, and it thus signifies the end of their careers. In summary, if he already had 20 years in, than completing hundreds of hours of extra work may not have been his top priority, and he was willing to retire honorably instead of essentially studying nights & weekends in addition to his full-time job, family, and ongoing part-time guard duties.
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p>2) While millions of reservists & guardsmen have obviously fought and served in Afghanistan and Iraq, many others, and even some active soldiers, have not. A close friend of mine who’s served in a mix of active and reserve units since 1989 has never been sent to the middle-east and was recently deployed to a combat zone for the 1st time- to Kosovo. If his unit was called, I imagine Scott would have gone. His units haven’t been called- so he hasn’t deployed.
You’re sending negative ads to your base. How is that helpful? The amendment says the hospital has to have in place a referral process; it was rejected, and Brown voted for the emergency contraception bill anyway.
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p>Link: http://www.mass.gov/legis/jour… (Senate, No. 2073)
He doesn’t stand by his principles, or he was just grandstanding in the first place.
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p>If Brown had had his way, hospitals could deny rape victims emergency contraception.
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p>That does not go down well with a lot of voters.
The cover says Brown wants hospitals to “turn them all away”, as if he was trying to make all hospitals completely refuse all care for rape victims.
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p>And I wonder what in the act enforces the “rape victim” part? Is there a requirement that the rape be reported and the rapist sought and apprehended? Or can women just say they were raped to get EC after completely consensual sex?
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If your deeply held religious conviction says that all rape victims deserved what they got, maybe he’d be all for that too?
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p>Just saying. I mean, it could be a deeply held religious conviction after all!
Why the requirement that they were raped? Is it to save their virtue, or the legislature’s virtue? Is it free if you were raped, but costs money if it was consensual?
Wait, hospitals admit thousands of people a year for care after consensual sex. Thousands of people have consensual sex and then worry about STD’s, pregnancy, bleeding and injury, heart attacks, etc, and surely they go to a “medical facility” for “timely access to emergency contraception”. Was it just politically impossible to require facilities to provide EC for consensual sex? Even in Massachusetts? So all they could get was mandating they provide it for rape victims?
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p>I think that the police should be called to treat rape victims, and hospitals shouldn’t treat rape victims until a special state police officer who is trained in helping rape victims arrives and collects evidence, unless there is an immediate danger to her health requiring immediate care. And I think that all rape victims (and rape perpetrators, if the perp is a woman) should be forced to take EC to stop the crime in progress, just like thieves should give back the money they stole. I don’t think being raped is a suitable way to get pregnant, and people should be spared from being created that way. I think even Catholics should agree that whatever can be done to stop a rapist from succeeding and causing a pregnancy should be done, and that EC does not kill a life, just like natural family planning doesn’t, even though many embryos are created by practicing NFP that never implant and become living.
Why should I have to go to a second hospital? Whatever ER I show up at should do their job and treat me, in full, to the best of their abilities.
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p>I just have to question what kind of person would sponsor a bill like this, especially somebody with 2 teenage daughters. Ugh.
Talk about no empathy…
Federal Bill Includes A Conscience Clause. “PROVIDER CONSCIENCE PROTECTIONS.-No individual health care provider or health care facility may be discriminated against because of an willingness or an unwillingness, if doing so is contrary to the religious or moral beliefs of the provider or facility, to provide, pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions.” (Sec. 1303(a), H.R. 3590, Amendment In The Nature Of A Substitute, “Patient Protection And Affordable Care Act,” Introduced 11/18/09) also In A Letter To The Pope, Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Said “I Believe In A Conscience Protection For Catholics.”
DOes that article really talk about failure somewhere? I’m not seeing it.
And had to leave the Guard.
I don’t see this as a big deal.
usually means getting failing grades. this is not the same thing as dropping out, which it sounds like he did. there is so much wrong about brown that i don’t think anyone needs to use hyperbole about his shortcomings.
…for lawyers instead of patriots.
instead of another Nancy Pelosi clone.
Better a Pelosi clone than a RepubliCloneTM
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p>Hell, I’d love a Pelosi clone, she’s great. We need more of her toughness in the Senate.
Skewers an even lesser ad, did you bother to read it? Here’s the meat:
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p>And that was just “favors letting..” not “wants to turn them ALL away”
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p>How silly.
What the heck? Your factcheck link pretty much says you guys are making something out of nothing. Did you even read it? And the article about his JAG experience pretty much says the same.
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p>gop1776 says,” Read between the lines…” What make crap up?
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p>This is the best we can do? This?! We’re no better than they are!
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p>This guy needs to lose but we’ve run the lamest lame duck EVAH. EVAH. Coakley keeps running typical smear ads, that nobody wants to see anymoe. Brown is taking the highroad, for the most part, and look how well he’s doing. In Massachussetts! Coakley can’t even spell it correctly.
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p>Read between the lines, Har Har Har. Jesus F.Christ on a popsicle stck, we’re supposed to be the ones with principles!
My mother and both my sisters just told me the were voting for Brown … Just because of how distorted they think this ad is!!
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p>They are three woman who never vote Republican, but because if MC’s ad campaign, they will be on Tuesday.
And, yes, of course I read the FactCheck piece. That is why I linked to it. It is, of course, talking about a different ad.
thinking that everyone who disagrees with how MC is running her campaign is a RMG troll…. is how we will lose this election!
Quick notes about the National Guard comments. I served as an officer in the Mass guard from about 1986-90 and on active duty during the 1990s, so my info may be dated. For more disclosure, I’m an unenrolled voter leaning towards Brown. I certainly don’t think he’s perfect, but he certainly did not ‘fail out of the Nat Guard JAG’.
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p>1) The training which I am guessing Scott didn’t complete is a fairly extensive equivalent of a 10 month full-time course called Command and General Staff College. Many reserve, and some active officers complete this training in a correspondence course format, mixed with some on-site seminars. Many of my friends who have done so used a lot of their vacation time to get through hundreds of books, or completed them during periods of unemployment (after corporate layoffs or during summers if they are teachers). I believe it is somewhat common for part-time Guard officers, especially those with successful and busy full-time jobs, to decide that the workload is more than they want to deal with, and it thus signifies the end of their careers. In summary, if he already had 20 years in, than completing hundreds of hours of extra work may not have been his top priority, and he was willing to retire honorably instead of essentially studying nights & weekends in addition to his full-time job, family, and ongoing part-time guard duties.
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p>2) While millions of reservists & guardsmen have obviously fought and served in Afghanistan and Iraq, many others, and even some active soldiers, have not. A close friend of mine who’s served in a mix of active and reserve units since 1989 has never been sent to the middle-east and was recently deployed to a combat zone for the 1st time- to Kosovo. If his unit was called, I imagine Scott would have gone. His units haven’t been called- so he hasn’t deployed.