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Talk about being disenfranchised

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Seems to me that ALL Democrat voters in the Michigan primary have been ENTIRELY disenfranchised.  

1.  Most of the Democrat candidates have withdrawn from the primary.

2.  No Michigan primary votes for Democrats will count.

Cries of injustice, anyone?

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  1. I love how Mitt twice invoked “George Herbert Walker Bush” because the last thing he wants is for anyone to think he admires the president.

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    p>All these candidates are running from Dubya as quickly as their $400 wingtips can carry them.

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    p>(PS: The only reason Michigan Republicans are getting any delegates is because the RNC doesn’t have the stones to enforce its own rules.  They’re halving the delegate take as some pathetic punishment for the bum-rushing of the state, instead of cutting all delegates as the Democrats are doing.

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    p>But then again, when have Republicans been interested in making sure rich white men follow the rules?)

    • Sabutai I think you’re a bright person and I like your posts, but it seems to me that you’ve completely avoided my question.

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      p>Are you fine with the fact that all Democrat voters in Michigan have no voice in the choice of their candidate for president?

      • I’m disappointed that Democratic and Republican leaders in Michigan were willing to risk their citizens’ voice in the process in their little game of chicken.

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        p>I’m fine with the fact that the Democratic Party has chosen a deliberative process in choosing our nominee (and enforcing the word of the state parties) over jumping at the beck and call of every small interest.

      • Are you fine with the fact that all Democrat voters in Michigan have no voice in the choice of their candidate for president?

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        p>In fact, I think voters in Michigan will have plenty of voice in deciding the next president — do they want a Bush clone like Romney, McCain, and Huckabee, or do they want to bring this country in a new and better direction with a strong Democratic presidency? I’m confident that Michigan will vote Democratic this fall so we can see the latter happen.

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        p>Thanks for asking.

        • whether they’d have a voice in deciding the Democratic candidate.

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          p>They don’t, as far as I can tell.  All Michigan voters are totally excluded from the process.  Maybe they would have flipped it one way, or the other, or maybe not but at the end of the day their primary votes will be thrown away, which is usually something that people get awfully exercised about in these parts.

        • If I lived in Michigan I would be entirely bullshit.
          Yet hundreds of thousands plodded dutifully to the polls to select a ballot emblazoned with the choice …
          Hillary: Yea or Nay
          Guess who won?
          Guess who paid for the charade?

  2. And three minutes later on, Ari Fleischer comes on and says that he’s sure that it was a mistake.  He must have meant Dubya.

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    p>Yeah, every once in a while I say “Herbert” by accident.  Repeatedly.  These guys would be a big hit in prison.

    • Yes you are witnessing the Illuminati secret government’s selection process for the next American Manchurinan Candidate.

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      p>How’s that for cynical.

  3. That’s number three.

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    p>First we didn’t condemn the evil crypto-Marxist Professor Zinn on schedule. A lack of condemnation opened us to fearful charges of not being patriotic.

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    p>Then we ignored mplo’s comments on vote-rigging. Our silence suggested we might not be reality-based.

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    p>And now, today, our silence in the face of the DNC’s reaction to Michigan exposes us to charges of not being in fully favor of democracy. Don’t tell Jonah.

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    p>Demolisher points the way.

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    p>We must be more rigorous, regular, and consistent in our condemnings.

    One wonders whether Republicans will ever condemn the sloppiness with truth that got us into Iraq, the lack of planning that mired us there, the corruption that bleeds us there, or the goal post-moving that keeps us from leaving. Will Republicans ever condemn the needless encroachment on civil liberties? the gratuitous use of torture? the politicization of the Justice Department? the slow response to Katrina? the large deficits rung up by the Republican Congress? the stunning lack of diligence on mine safety, food safety, and port safety?

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    p>We look forward to reading these and many other posts on the Regularly Scheduled Condemnations that will no doubt appear any day on Red Mass Group or, at least, on Anti-Venom.

    • How did you make that marvelous pink square in the middle of your post!

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      p>BTW have you heard of Republicans Ron Paul or John McCain?

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      • The pink square is part of my branding. If I told you, I’d have to get you banned.

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        p>Where do Ron Paul and John McCain maintain blogs so that I can read those wonderful condemnations? Does Ron Paul post on RedState perhaps?

        • http://www.ronpaul2008.com/iss…

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          The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information. The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them. This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives, thousands of seriously wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars. We must have new leadership in the White House to ensure this never happens again.

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          p>(and much, much more)

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          p>and

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          p>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10…

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          WASHINGTON – President Bush reversed course on Thursday and accepted Sen. John McCain’s call for a law banning cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of foreign suspects in the war on terror.

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          p>and

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          p>http://www.boston.com/news/nat…

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          WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain yesterday warned that a push by the White House to exempt overseas CIA agents from a proposed ban on mistreating prisoners in US custody would exacerbate the problem of detainee abuse by giving interrogators legal authority to torture suspected terrorists.

          ”I don’t see how you could possibly agree to legitimizing an agent of the government engaging in torture,” said the Arizona Republican, who survived torture as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. ”No amendment at all would be better than that.”

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          p>McCain is the guy moving the ball on torture, everyone else is just making noise.

  4. Nowhere in the Constitution is there a right to participate in a party’s nomination process. Each party has every right to pick the way that it selects the candidates that it will put forward for the general election. Period.
     

    • but I don’t think that would be the overwhelming concensus here, and I think that’s what demolisher was trying to point out, with some degree of success.

      • If you take aways peoples false sense of participation in the actual selection process, these same people will be less inclined to validate the result by supporting “THE PARTIES’ in the general election.
        This might be the needed recipe for outside parties to gain traction. Let the arrogance continue ..

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